| noddy United Kingdom. July 01 2012 18:41. Posts 905 | Profile # |
On July 01 2012 18:27 CrtBalorda wrote:
I dont like the fact that people throw WOW expansions into the sack of blizzard suckegnes. They know the games is gona die, they are just milking it for what its worth, besides its not like they can make the game better at this point. They are probably just working on their Titan shit and Hots and just make an expansion now and again to have the players have something to look forward to, so they dont unsubscribe.
I also dont think its actully fair to judge blizzard by this decade, since most of it was world of warcraft. Starcraft 2 was actully a very well made game for what it tried to do, which was replicate the original. And it definetly did make for a very similar game, you cant argue that. Blizzard even tried to make the game take skill like the orignal with crono, injects, mules. They failed of course.
I dont know how good Diablo 3 was cuz I havent played it, but I didnt like Diablo 2 anyway.
The thing is I think they are kinda failing with hots, they said they want to kill the deathball play, but then they support it with terran mech and they did nothing to protoss.
I honestly feel that if Starcraft 2 is to be as good as the original they either have to make the macro machenics super hard, Im talking like crono every 5 seaconds, though that might make it easier cuz it burns itself into your brain. Or they need to change their formula a little bit, like giving most units an abilty that needs to be microed and makes a dam difference.
But I woudnt be suprised if blizzerd changes their mindset into "We are just going to barely keep our hardcore audiance, while leaning towards the casual players" in the future.
This honestly reads like a BW fanboy's passive aggressive post towards Starcraft2. They didn't fail, "of course". They achieved things they never did with BW, widespread and global success.
Also as someone who has played MoP beta, it's going to be a very good game. Definitely a step up from Cataclysm. People who are throwing out hate have just read some article about there being pandas and therefore they are hating.
Please actually play a game before you criticise it, otherwise you just look stupid.Last edit: 2012-07-01 18:43:08 |
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| bOneSeven Romania. July 01 2012 18:51. Posts 589 | Profile Blog # |
| So they make tons of money with WoW, they make tons of money with best selling pc game in a week and now they wanna sell it ? In what world do we live in ? People don't realize that after a point, there is no reason to make money no more?-__- |
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| Medrea July 01 2012 18:55. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
I hope Nexon buys it.
That'd be kinda neat. |
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| Zandar Netherlands. July 01 2012 19:08. Posts 1225 | Profile Blog # |
| Or some biljonair who wants the best games possible and hates to have no lan! |
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| DoctorPhil Netherlands. July 01 2012 19:09. Posts 167 | Profile # |
| I hope people who actually realise that customer loyalty is the best recipe for long term success so Blizzard makes more high quality games, buy it. Not gonna happen of course. |
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 Aeroplaneoverthesea United Kingdom. July 01 2012 19:11. Posts 1694 | Profile # |
Why do people keep saying WoW is dying when it's sells three times as many copies at least as Sc2 and people pay a monthly fee to play?
Perhaps WoW is in decline but it still makes Blizzard a fuck load more money than Diablo and Sc2 ever will and until that changes or they release a WoW 2 then they will keep making WoW content and keeping taking your £8.99 a month because that's what businesses do.
Sc2 will die long, long before Blizzard stops making MMO's. |
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| GoSuChicken United States. July 01 2012 19:12. Posts 1341 | Profile Blog # |
who is saying that blizzard isnt profitable? you have no idea what youre talking about...
WoW still has ~10 million subscribers, d3 was one of the best selling games of all times and sc2 is the best rts on the market atm. And youre telling me that blizzard isnt profitable?
I dont know the reason, why theyre selling them, but i highly doubt that its because of blizzard not being profitable. |
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| victoryimminent July 01 2012 19:15. Posts 20 | Profile # |
On July 01 2012 07:42 papaz wrote:
I wonder if the next-gen MMO Titan is part of the calculation when trying to get a good price for their share.
What if Titan is the real WoW killer and will have like 15 million subs?
Titan will not be a WoW killer though. They are entirely separate games and genres. Sure there will be some cross-over in terms of playerbase but that is about it. |
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| Bleak Turkey. July 01 2012 19:18. Posts 2639 | Profile Blog # |
On July 01 2012 18:41 Shai wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 07:38 Daitakk wrote:
Blizzard are going to shit. Mists of Pandaria, Diablo 3... hopefully HotS breaks that trend.
This makes me laugh every time. MoP is very Warcraft. I love watching all of the kids cry about Kung Fu Panda in WoW, ruining it. Where does all this shit come from, they say. Warcraft III. At least play the game that WoW is based off of before you complain about WoW's context. And yes, WoW is pretty specifically based off of WC3, which had Panderan and they had silly asian accents and were brewmasters.
Yes they are rnaking an expansion based entirely on a joke. Holy shit it's so amazing! |
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| rivurivurivurivu Sweden. July 01 2012 19:22. Posts 121 | Profile # |
| TL is so big that they will buy it. |
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| Clarity_nl Netherlands. July 01 2012 19:28. Posts 3283 | Profile # |
On July 01 2012 07:49 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 07:47 TheAmazombie wrote:
Should we all start a kickstarter project to buy Blizz? Sounds like a plan.
I hope that it goes to someone good, not like Apple or some crap.
I say we just launch a huge internet campaign to get Valve to buy it. Can you imagine HotS... but with HATS?!
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| Phenny Australia. July 01 2012 19:40. Posts 1399 | Profile # |
On July 01 2012 07:39 cz wrote:
Nope. D3 soured me on Blizzards ability to put out high quality games. They sold out in favor of the RMAH (dumbing down the game and making everything RMAH-centric) and are no longer the quality company they once were.
No buy.
lol brah, it was going to happen anyway (d2jsp and many other sites), this just made it safe for those involved in such transactions (and admittely, gives them a 15% cut).
D3 might be AH centric but it certainly isnt RMAH centric.
D3 has plenty of different flaws though. |
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| stormssc Poland. July 01 2012 19:57. Posts 97 | Profile # |
I well know that Pandarens have been in the Warcraft lore for a long time now, but I still hate the idea of basing a freakin expansion on Pandarens. There are better (imo) choices at hand. Had I not quitted WoW in cata, I would quit in MoP anyway. Generally, I agree with those saying that Blizzard did not make a good game since WoW:TBC with the exception of SC2.
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| []Phase[] Belgium. July 01 2012 20:03. Posts 581 | Profile # |
On July 01 2012 08:27 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Why are people shitting on Mists of Pandaria when it's not even out yet?
Because it went from orcs demons and undead as the main theme into... pandas.
you can say 'well you dont know till its out' all you want, you have to understand why some people are concerned. As far as I can tell, when the games blizz made where heavily based on themes from the books they felt like they were full of awesome. |
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| Integra Sweden. July 01 2012 20:08. Posts 4928 | Profile Blog # |
On July 01 2012 20:03 []Phase[] wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 08:27 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Why are people shitting on Mists of Pandaria when it's not even out yet?
Because it went from orcs demons and undead as the main theme into... pandas. you can say 'well you dont know till its out' all you want, you have to understand why some people are concerned. As far as I can tell, when the games blizz made where heavily based on themes from the books they felt like they were full of awesome.
Actually, Pandas has been a part of the warcraft universe since Warcraft3 O_o. |
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| .Sic. United States. July 01 2012 20:09. Posts 492 | Profile # |
On July 01 2012 18:41 noddy wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 18:27 CrtBalorda wrote:
I dont like the fact that people throw WOW expansions into the sack of blizzard suckegnes. They know the games is gona die, they are just milking it for what its worth, besides its not like they can make the game better at this point. They are probably just working on their Titan shit and Hots and just make an expansion now and again to have the players have something to look forward to, so they dont unsubscribe.
I also dont think its actully fair to judge blizzard by this decade, since most of it was world of warcraft. Starcraft 2 was actully a very well made game for what it tried to do, which was replicate the original. And it definetly did make for a very similar game, you cant argue that. Blizzard even tried to make the game take skill like the orignal with crono, injects, mules. They failed of course.
I dont know how good Diablo 3 was cuz I havent played it, but I didnt like Diablo 2 anyway.
The thing is I think they are kinda failing with hots, they said they want to kill the deathball play, but then they support it with terran mech and they did nothing to protoss.
I honestly feel that if Starcraft 2 is to be as good as the original they either have to make the macro machenics super hard, Im talking like crono every 5 seaconds, though that might make it easier cuz it burns itself into your brain. Or they need to change their formula a little bit, like giving most units an abilty that needs to be microed and makes a dam difference.
But I woudnt be suprised if blizzerd changes their mindset into "We are just going to barely keep our hardcore audiance, while leaning towards the casual players" in the future.
This honestly reads like a BW fanboy's passive aggressive post towards Starcraft2. They didn't fail, "of course". They achieved things they never did with BW, widespread and global success. Also as someone who has played MoP beta, it's going to be a very good game. Definitely a step up from Cataclysm. People who are throwing out hate have just read some article about there being pandas and therefore they are hating. Please actually play a game before you criticise it, otherwise you just look stupid.
Yeah, 10 bucks says that this guy can't even macro that well in sc2. |
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| Thorakh Netherlands. July 01 2012 20:13. Posts 1623 | Profile # |
As far as I can tell MoP will be far better than Cataclysm and better than WotLK as well (barring the lore aspect, the Lich King is obviously much more interesting than pandas). The new expansion is exactly what WoW needs, a breath of fresh air.
I wouldn't be surprised if they'd actually managed to get a bit of a climb in subscriber numbers again.
But all this talk about shares and mother companies is confusing me. Why is Blizzard not an independent company and why can't they just buy themselves? And what does 61% of total shares mean? Does that mean Vivendi can tell ActiBlizz what to do and what not to do? And why did Activision and Blizzard merge or whatever?
And maaaann, if I was a billionaire I'd so be buying Blizzard ^^Last edit: 2012-07-01 20:41:38 |
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| OptimusYale Korea (South). July 01 2012 20:15. Posts 978 | Profile Blog # |
The social medium of games is a terrible....terrible place to invest money. Your profit income is going to be low, unless you were there at the start your going to get nowhere (why Zynga have such a hold on the market) and unless your making something entirely new....you pretty much have no chance.
Jumping ship on a resurgent market in order to take advantage of a oversaturated market is a terrible idea....vivendi have been a shit company for years.....and the only reason they MADE money was ebcause of blizzard
Also, just for clarification, Vivendi have no shares of activision, but own 61% of blizzard right? Like, vivendi do not own activision?
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| DannyJ United States. July 01 2012 20:15. Posts 3744 | Profile # |
On July 01 2012 19:18 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 18:41 Shai wrote:
On July 01 2012 07:38 Daitakk wrote:
Blizzard are going to shit. Mists of Pandaria, Diablo 3... hopefully HotS breaks that trend.
This makes me laugh every time. MoP is very Warcraft. I love watching all of the kids cry about Kung Fu Panda in WoW, ruining it. Where does all this shit come from, they say. Warcraft III. At least play the game that WoW is based off of before you complain about WoW's context. And yes, WoW is pretty specifically based off of WC3, which had Panderan and they had silly asian accents and were brewmasters.
Yes they are rnaking an expansion based entirely on a joke. Holy shit it's so amazing!
I remember Samwise (main Blizz artist since forever) saying he thought people were joking the jokers when they actually thought Pandas would be cool after seeing the Pandaren April Fools.
Years later Pandas are getting their own expansion to a massively popular game...
I really don't blame them for jumping the shark though. It's an 8 year old MMO after all, might as well do something nuts to try and keep it fresh.Last edit: 2012-07-01 20:20:42 |
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