| UmiNotsuki United States. July 01 2012 08:13. Posts 633 | Profile Blog # |
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People made far too many assumptions about what I was meaning to discuss here (insinuating I was mad because I lost (which I did not,) shooting down my opinions based on lack of games played and not on the merit of said opinions, etc.)
Perhaps I simply communicated poorly. I'm sorry for wasting your time.Last edit: 2012-07-01 09:06:45 |
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| SilverStar Sweden. July 01 2012 08:17. Posts 5688 | Profile # |
| You were shocked that creeps behaved as always? Because you lost one game you want to change how the AI works? Yes "we" as player base agree that is how it should work. |
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| UmiNotsuki United States. July 01 2012 08:19. Posts 633 | Profile Blog # |
On July 01 2012 08:17 SilverStar wrote:
You were shocked that creeps behaved as always? Because you lost one game you want to change how the AI works? Yes "we" as player base agree that is how it should work.
No need to be rude. And who said I lost? Calm down.
I realize that this is how they always behave, but frankly it seems a little odd that they should be SO easy to manipulate? |
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| SilverStar Sweden. July 01 2012 08:21. Posts 5688 | Profile # |
Okay you posted the same stuff on reddit and with that your profile with 8 wins. I'm not sure why you make these kind of posts when you barely played it. Not trying to be rude but I'm not asking for AI changes in Starcraft after I played 5 matches...
46 Games in total played. And you started playing 2 weeks ago -_-
http://stats.dota2.be/player/36708076Last edit: 2012-07-01 08:24:46 |
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| UmiNotsuki United States. July 01 2012 08:23. Posts 633 | Profile Blog # |
On July 01 2012 08:21 SilverStar wrote:Okay you posted the same stuff on reddit and with that your profile with 8 wins. I'm not sure why you make these kind of posts when you barely played it. Not trying to be rude but I'm not asking for AI changes in Starcraft after I played 5 matches... http://i.imgur.com/KmBGo.png
Asking for AI changes to StarCraft is a completely different concept because units in StarCraft can be controlled. I realize I'm new, which is why I'm not saying "Creep AI is broken," simply, "Is this really how it should go?"
EDIT: Also, that's an older post; I've since doubled the number of games I've played. Not suggesting it's a lot either way, but you continue to jump to conclusions. This has nothing to do with me, so I don't see a reason to bring me into it.Last edit: 2012-07-01 08:24:37 |
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| SilverStar Sweden. July 01 2012 08:29. Posts 5688 | Profile # |
| If you would implement what you ask for it would change the game fundamentally. It is just like asking whether stalker shouldn't attack buildings when there are enemy units around.. I'm not very good explaining but what you are asking for is just ridiculous based on your experience so far. Sorry if I came over rude. |
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| Blitz United States. July 01 2012 08:30. Posts 301 | Profile # |
| I'm really not sure how to reply to this. It has never been an issue, the creep AI follows you, and always will. o_o I'm really sorry you lost your pub game... |
| | [13:42:40] <13@mTw|syndereN|jD> Upvotes? ^_> |
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| UmiNotsuki United States. July 01 2012 08:32. Posts 633 | Profile Blog # |
On July 01 2012 08:30 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I'm really not sure how to reply to this. It has never been an issue, the creep AI follows you, and always will. o_o I'm really sorry you lost your pub game...
No one said I lost!!! Oh lord. Maybe I should learn my lesson and stop talking to the community about Dota 2, it never turns out well. People are right, MOBA communities do suck compared to StarCraft's :[ |
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| FinestHour United States. July 01 2012 08:35. Posts 6767 | Profile # |
For the vast majority of situations, the way the creep AI works now is much better. In all honesty, too bad. Better luck with your next game.
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| SilverStar Sweden. July 01 2012 08:36. Posts 5688 | Profile # |
On July 01 2012 08:32 UmiNotsuki wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 08:30 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I'm really not sure how to reply to this. It has never been an issue, the creep AI follows you, and always will. o_o I'm really sorry you lost your pub game...
No one said I lost!!! Oh lord. Maybe I should learn my lesson and stop talking to the community about Dota 2, it never turns out well. People are right, MOBA communities do suck compared to StarCraft's :[
Now you are just being silly... And saying the dota community sucks based on one post you made.. really? |
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| Kahzaar Sweden. July 01 2012 08:48. Posts 479 | Profile # |
| It's always been that way, creeps prioritizes heroes trying to hurt them if they aren't already fighting creeps. If creeps always went for buildings first, the laning phase would be weird and t1 towers would last a few minutes. |
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| Candadar July 01 2012 08:55. Posts 1791 | Profile Blog # |
On July 01 2012 08:32 UmiNotsuki wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 08:30 ROOTBlitz wrote:
I'm really not sure how to reply to this. It has never been an issue, the creep AI follows you, and always will. o_o I'm really sorry you lost your pub game...
No one said I lost!!! Oh lord. Maybe I should learn my lesson and stop talking to the community about Dota 2, it never turns out well. People are right, MOBA communities do suck compared to StarCraft's :[
Don't be a child. You asked a stupid question and you, with very little experience in the game, are wanting to change a fundamental mechanic in the game that would drastically shift the balance from everything between pulling past towers to deny enemy farm, to creep pulling, and so forth. Yes, that's super unfortunate that creeps were pulled away from the ancient into the well. That's a one in a million occurrence and doesn't warrant an overhaul of creep AI. It's always been like this.
People aren't shitting on you because you're new, or because our community is terrible. We're shitting on you because you lack any experience with the game and trying to say they need to change something fundamental to game balance because of an isolated incident.Last edit: 2012-07-01 08:55:45 |
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| Ack1027 United States. July 01 2012 09:02. Posts 7026 | Profile Blog # |
This thread would be improved if the next time this happened you had a webcam set up and took snapshots of your face as it happens.
Is this even a real thread? |
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| Mastermyth Netherlands. July 01 2012 09:02. Posts 195 | Profile # |
| I think this should remain in the game. It happens very rarely, is hardly worth overhauling creep AI for, and can make for some tactical plays regarding defense and offense in megacreep vs megacreep situations. It does not change the fact that getting megacreeps first will generally win you the game. |
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| FinestHour United States. July 01 2012 09:11. Posts 6767 | Profile # |
On July 01 2012 08:48 Kahzaar wrote:
It's always been that way, creeps prioritizes heroes trying to hurt them if they aren't already fighting creeps. If creeps always went for buildings first, the laning phase would be weird and t1 towers would last a few minutes.
The guy has won like 5 games, doesn't know this kind of stuff yet. Probably should just let this thread die |
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| zeehar Korea (South). July 01 2012 09:18. Posts 2473 | Profile Blog # |
On July 01 2012 09:02 Ack1027 wrote:
This thread would be improved if the next time this happened you had a webcam set up and took snapshots of your face as it happens.
Is this even a real thread?
no
hopefully this doesn't get as big as the whole "ursa is OP" shitfestLast edit: 2012-07-01 09:19:00 |
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| ahswtini Northern Ireland. July 01 2012 18:41. Posts 2657 | Profile Blog # |
Is there a link to the "ursa is OP" shitfest?  |
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| zeehar Korea (South). July 01 2012 18:55. Posts 2473 | Profile Blog # | |
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| GMarshal United States. July 01 2012 19:58. Posts 20828 | Profile Blog # | |
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