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| decaf Austria. July 13 2012 01:07. Posts 1694 | Profile # |
Hey,
today I had an ECG and that got me thinking again, because the results said borderline. I had one, because I'm serving for the red cross as part of my civil service and we learn how to do one, so they used me as showpiece so we all can learn and so on bla bla. Now the point is that the results came out as borderline. I remember back when I had the medical examination for the military service the doctor who did the ecg said something about me having cardiac arrhythmia, but I guess it's not too serious or they would have told me?
Maybe there's a doctor on this forum who can tell me what this ecg exactly means
http://i.imgur.com/qqhtg.jpg
Now I'm not completely ignorant on this subject, I do know that I have a right axis deviation. The vector should point to the left side rather than to the right side. This could mean that I have cardiac arrhythmia or right ventricular hypertrophy, right? But was does that mean for my physical health in the long run?
I'm 19 years old, weigh about 62kilos and I'm 1.78m tall to give you a better understanding my condition, plus I do sports (used to do kung fu now I'm going to the gym). My blood pressure is about 115/65 (no, I didn't use a shitty digital blood pressure gauge). |
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| Risen United States. July 13 2012 02:22. Posts 5847 | Profile Blog # |
On July 13 2012 01:07 decaf wrote:Hey, today I had an ECG and that got me thinking again, because the results said borderline. I had one, because I'm serving for the red cross as part of my civil service and we learn how to do one, so they used me as showpiece so we all can learn and so on bla bla. Now the point is that the results came out as borderline. I remember back when I had the medical examination for the military service the doctor who did the ecg said something about me having cardiac arrhythmia, but I guess it's not too serious or they would have told me? Maybe there's a doctor on this forum who can tell me what this ecg exactly means http://i.imgur.com/qqhtg.jpgNow I'm not completely ignorant on this subject, I do know that I have a right axis deviation. The vector should point to the left side rather than to the right side. This could mean that I have cardiac arrhythmia or right ventricular hypertrophy, right? But was does that mean for my physical health in the long run? I'm 19 years old, weigh about 62kilos and I'm 1.78m tall to give you a better understanding my condition, plus I do sports (used to do kung fu now I'm going to the gym). My blood pressure is about 115/65 (no, I didn't use a shitty digital blood pressure gauge).
These seem like questions you should have asked your doctor? (If you did I'm not sure TL is your goto for a second opinion on the matter) Also, beyond the questions for a doctor, I have literally no idea what it is you're asking those of us who AREN'T doctors :S
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| Deadeight United Kingdom. July 13 2012 04:00. Posts 1567 | Profile Blog # |
Yeah the name threw me off too.
I don't think you'll find any qualified doctors in the subforum, I know it says health but it's more fitness. Also almost all doctors don't want to give advice over the internet and will tell you to go see your doctor. |
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| decaf Austria. July 13 2012 05:32. Posts 1694 | Profile # |
What about the name o: ? I guess that's a question you can answer without having a medical degree~
The question I'm asking is if the right axis deviation you can see on the ECG (negative qrs complex at the I lead, positive qrs complexes at the III and aVF leads (should be the other way round)) is going to cause any longterm health problems and what the cause of this malfunction is? To my knowledge it might be cardiac arrhythmia or right ventricular hypertrophy, but I never even studied medicine so I'm not sure.
I'm probably not gonna hear anything else other than "go to a doctor". I'm not sure, if it was severe the doc that told me a few years ago that something with my heart was wrong would of told me, right?
Maybe I'll go to the doctor, I mean I never had problems besides havin' heart palpitations very rarely. I guess I could also ask him about the psychosomatic tendonitis that I been having for about 6 months now lol~ Thanks anyways. |
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| phyre112 United States. July 13 2012 08:48. Posts 2322 | Profile # |
On July 13 2012 05:32 decaf wrote:
What about the name o: ? I guess that's a question you can answer without having a medical degree~
The question I'm asking is if the right axis deviation you can see on the ECG (negative qrs complex at the I lead, positive qrs complexes at the III and aVF leads (should be the other way round)) is going to cause any longterm health problems and what the cause of this malfunction is? To my knowledge it might be cardiac arrhythmia or right ventricular hypertrophy, but I never even studied medicine so I'm not sure.
I'm probably not gonna hear anything else other than "go to a doctor". I'm not sure, if it was severe the doc that told me a few years ago that something with my heart was wrong would of told me, right?
Maybe I'll go to the doctor, I mean I never had problems besides havin' heart palpitations very rarely. I guess I could also ask him about the psychosomatic tendonitis that I been having for about 6 months now lol~ Thanks anyways.
"decafchicken" is one of the regulars in this subforum, and probably one of the strongest guys that visits TL.
From my limited experience with ECGs (one summer working in a cardiologist's office) there are all kinds of minor abnormalities and arrythmias that can occur in the heart, that are just that - abnormalities. They're nice to be aware of, but they're not dangerous, unless something happens or you have other risk factors - but that's the case with just about anyone.
It's likely that if there were anything of actual concern, the doctor would have done some sort of follow up, but not certain. If you're really concerned, go to the nearest cardiologist, tell them your concerns and have it checked. They do dozens of scans like this every day, so it's not a big issue (so long as your insurance covers it). |
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| decafchicken United States. July 13 2012 09:33. Posts 15161 | Profile Blog # |
On July 13 2012 05:32 decaf wrote:
What about the name o: ? I guess that's a question you can answer without having a medical degree~
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I'm the reason for confusion :D most ppl here just call me 'decaf'. But i'm like 35kg heavier than you and 6cm taller :D |
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| decaf Austria. July 14 2012 00:51. Posts 1694 | Profile # |
On July 13 2012 09:33 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 05:32 decaf wrote:
What about the name o: ? I guess that's a question you can answer without having a medical degree~
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I'm the reason for confusion :D most ppl here just call me 'decaf'. But i'm like 35kg heavier than you and 6cm taller :D
ah I see, I'm not the worst person to be confused with so don't worry~
Unless you're super muscular 97kilos for 184cm is kind of much 
I have about 6% bodyfat, started bulking 2 weeks ago, excited to see what results I can get within a year of working out >:D
This thread has been pretty much derailed now, I'd say
I probably won't hear a sophisticated answer anyways~ Today I had a medical examination and she said I should go see a cardiologist, but it's not like super urgent.
edit: btw, is it bad that you get much better help asking on /b/ on 4chan ?Last edit: 2012-07-14 01:41:11 |
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| Deadeight United Kingdom. July 14 2012 02:26. Posts 1567 | Profile Blog # |
On July 14 2012 00:51 decaf wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 09:33 decafchicken wrote:
On July 13 2012 05:32 decaf wrote:
What about the name o: ? I guess that's a question you can answer without having a medical degree~
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I'm the reason for confusion :D most ppl here just call me 'decaf'. But i'm like 35kg heavier than you and 6cm taller :D
ah I see, I'm not the worst person to be confused with so don't worry~ Unless you're super muscular 97kilos for 184cm is kind of much I have about 6% bodyfat, started bulking 2 weeks ago, excited to see what results I can get within a year of working out >:D This thread has been pretty much derailed now, I'd say I probably won't hear a sophisticated answer anyways~ Today I had a medical examination and she said I should go see a cardiologist, but it's not like super urgent. edit: btw, is it bad that you get much better help asking on /b/ on 4chan ?
he is
And it's not surprising seeing 1000s of people read /b/ and like 20 read this forum.Last edit: 2012-07-14 02:27:00 |
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| UmbraaeternuS Chile. July 14 2012 03:06. Posts 441 | Profile Blog # |
Sokolow's index isn't over 38 for the S wave in V1 and R wave in V5 (V6's R wave is smaller so that doesn't count for the calculation).
QRS axis is, according to my calculation, in between 110ºs and 90ºs
So that RAD is either because of your height (tall individuals tend to have a Right Axis Deviation) or because you have a Left Posterior Fascicular Block, which is not a pathognomonic sign and most times it's absolutely benign. Since your QRS complex isn't wider than 80ms, I'd favor my 1st hypothesis.
Auto-analyzers for EKGs are pretty bad. Don't pay attention to them and always get your EKG checked by your doctor.
Also,
On July 13 2012 04:00 Deadeight wrote:
Yeah the name threw me off too.
I don't think you'll find any qualified doctors in the subforum, I know it says health but it's more fitness. Also almost all doctors don't want to give advice over the internet and will tell you to go see your doctor.
This.
I'm a doctor and I do exactly THAT.Last edit: 2012-07-14 03:40:05 |
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| decaf Austria. July 14 2012 16:04. Posts 1694 | Profile # |
On July 14 2012 03:06 UmbraaeternuS wrote:Sokolow's index isn't over 38 for the S wave in V1 and R wave in V5 (V6's R wave is smaller so that doesn't count for the calculation). QRS axis is, according to my calculation, in between 110ºs and 90ºs So that RAD is either because of your height (tall individuals tend to have a Right Axis Deviation) or because you have a Left Posterior Fascicular Block, which is not a pathognomonic sign and most times it's absolutely benign. Since your QRS complex isn't wider than 80ms, I'd favor my 1st hypothesis. Auto-analyzers for EKGs are pretty bad. Don't pay attention to them and always get your EKG checked by your doctor. Also,
Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 04:00 Deadeight wrote:
Yeah the name threw me off too.
I don't think you'll find any qualified doctors in the subforum, I know it says health but it's more fitness. Also almost all doctors don't want to give advice over the internet and will tell you to go see your doctor.
This. I'm a doctor and I do exactly THAT.
Hey, that's cool, tahnk you =)
I'll still gonna see a doctor as soon as I got the time for it.
It's probably nothing serious, but you know, you can't really fool around with your health especially when it's the heart~ Thanks a bunch =) |
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| UmbraaeternuS Chile. July 27 2012 11:28. Posts 441 | Profile Blog # |
On July 14 2012 16:04 decaf wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 03:06 UmbraaeternuS wrote:Sokolow's index isn't over 38 for the S wave in V1 and R wave in V5 (V6's R wave is smaller so that doesn't count for the calculation). QRS axis is, according to my calculation, in between 110ºs and 90ºs So that RAD is either because of your height (tall individuals tend to have a Right Axis Deviation) or because you have a Left Posterior Fascicular Block, which is not a pathognomonic sign and most times it's absolutely benign. Since your QRS complex isn't wider than 80ms, I'd favor my 1st hypothesis. Auto-analyzers for EKGs are pretty bad. Don't pay attention to them and always get your EKG checked by your doctor. Also,
On July 13 2012 04:00 Deadeight wrote:
Yeah the name threw me off too.
I don't think you'll find any qualified doctors in the subforum, I know it says health but it's more fitness. Also almost all doctors don't want to give advice over the internet and will tell you to go see your doctor.
This. I'm a doctor and I do exactly THAT.
Hey, that's cool, tahnk you =) I'll still gonna see a doctor as soon as I got the time for it. It's probably nothing serious, but you know, you can't really fool around with your health especially when it's the heart~ Thanks a bunch =)
I didn't see your answer in time, LOL.
NP man, glad I could be of assistance. |
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| decaf Austria. July 31 2012 15:30. Posts 1694 | Profile # |
On July 27 2012 11:28 UmbraaeternuS wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 16:04 decaf wrote:
On July 14 2012 03:06 UmbraaeternuS wrote:Sokolow's index isn't over 38 for the S wave in V1 and R wave in V5 (V6's R wave is smaller so that doesn't count for the calculation). QRS axis is, according to my calculation, in between 110ºs and 90ºs So that RAD is either because of your height (tall individuals tend to have a Right Axis Deviation) or because you have a Left Posterior Fascicular Block, which is not a pathognomonic sign and most times it's absolutely benign. Since your QRS complex isn't wider than 80ms, I'd favor my 1st hypothesis. Auto-analyzers for EKGs are pretty bad. Don't pay attention to them and always get your EKG checked by your doctor. Also,
On July 13 2012 04:00 Deadeight wrote:
Yeah the name threw me off too.
I don't think you'll find any qualified doctors in the subforum, I know it says health but it's more fitness. Also almost all doctors don't want to give advice over the internet and will tell you to go see your doctor.
This. I'm a doctor and I do exactly THAT.
Hey, that's cool, tahnk you =) I'll still gonna see a doctor as soon as I got the time for it. It's probably nothing serious, but you know, you can't really fool around with your health especially when it's the heart~ Thanks a bunch =)
I didn't see your answer in time, LOL. NP man, glad I could be of assistance.
I'm doing a 24hour ECG right now. Just started Then we'll know for sure what I got and it's hopefully nothing.
It's funny though, go to 3 different doctors and you'll get 3 (to 4) different answers. The doctor at the medical examination said something about arrhythmia, the guy at the red cross with the lifepak thing (that device can do ecg, pulse oximetry and so on) said it was a right axis deviation, the doctor I recently went to says it's normal.
Here's the new ecg:
http://i.imgur.com/f1WIf.jpg
It's completely different from the one in the OP, right? How's that even possible? Either they using shitty equipment or they don't know how to read ECGs..
Oh well, doing the 24h ECG now, then we'll know for sure I guess~
btw, don't mind the high beats per minute (90 and 92), that's totally physiological~~
okay, the long term ecg is finished, she said I got nothing - happy face.Last edit: 2012-08-01 16:54:16 |
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