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| CecilSunkure United States. July 22 2012 02:14. Posts 2272 | Profile Blog # |
On July 21 2012 19:44 redFF wrote:
Why are all these pointless subforums suddenly springing up?
I don't get it.
For people who aren't you. |
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| Chef July 22 2012 02:59. Posts 9766 | Profile Blog # |
Only legitimate question I have is why is this in the Blogs heading? Shouldn't it be general?
Blog as a general term relates to personal interest stories. Someone writing about their trip, or their girl problems, or just writing some personal opinions rather than opening up a legitimate discussion.
A little guide geared toward getting you to purchase something off Amazon doesn't fit with these, even if it is a requisite that you have an interest in what you're writing about. It isn't a personal story, is basically what I'm getting at...
It would make way more sense to put this in General. Even tho it bears the similarity of ratings, that is as far as it goes. Blogs isn't the junk forum for things you aren't sure of... I really don't like that it has this image on TL, because most of the best threads are in Blogs. |
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 MightyAtom Korea (South). July 22 2012 21:05. Posts 1573 | Profile Blog # |
On July 22 2012 02:59 Chef wrote:
Only legitimate question I have is why is this in the Blogs heading? Shouldn't it be general?
Blog as a general term relates to personal interest stories. Someone writing about their trip, or their girl problems, or just writing some personal opinions rather than opening up a legitimate discussion.
A little guide geared toward getting you to purchase something off Amazon doesn't fit with these, even if it is a requisite that you have an interest in what you're writing about. It isn't a personal story, is basically what I'm getting at...
It would make way more sense to put this in General. Even tho it bears the similarity of ratings, that is as far as it goes. Blogs isn't the junk forum for things you aren't sure of... I really don't like that it has this image on TL, because most of the best threads are in Blogs.
Well, 2 things, #1, we wanted to build out the blogs section, and #2, I think again, there is still a lot of confusion of what is knowhow opposed to knowledge, because knowhow is completely based off of one's understanding through experience and not just reiterating things that they know or have just thought about. For me, because it is in that context of person experience, it is really fitting it should be in the blog section. Especially when, we are expecting in depth pieces as well as discussion -as well as being a standing resource.
So again, it is a matter of development rather than just figuring out the best slot, and while I've never thought that blogs is the section where the things that don't fit or 'junk' go, because it is where I mainly post 95% of the time; well if what you've said really is the general image, then I think that having TL Knowhow goes a long way in refining the Blogs section beyond that.
As an aside, this section is a very purposely step for developing out the blogs section, and wasn't just a, 'lets add something on', thus the featured blogs was launched first, but was developed at the same time. But, time will tell if it works out or not, but we're gonna give it our best shot. |
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| Valestrum United States. July 23 2012 00:09. Posts 203 | Profile # |
| Interesting, well glad to see the new addition, hopefully it thrives. ^^ |
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| redFF United States. July 25 2012 06:06. Posts 3889 | Profile Blog # |
On July 22 2012 02:14 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 19:44 redFF wrote:
Why are all these pointless subforums suddenly springing up?
I don't get it.
For people who aren't you.
i sure got owned |
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| snively United States. July 26 2012 03:17. Posts 1103 | Profile Blog # |
wowow, r1ch writing an article on programming?
ILL DO ANYTHING |
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 tofucake United States. July 26 2012 03:34. Posts 11646 | Profile Blog # |
| It was a hypothetical, although I'd love an article about the technical developments of TL. |
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| AcrossFiveJulys United States. July 28 2012 05:03. Posts 3597 | Profile Blog # |
| I think the idea of having a subforum with guides on relevant/interesting topics is great. But I think forcing users to weave in advertisements to buy something on Amazon is appalling, especially when said users are producing this content for free. Seriously guys? |
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| Fortis-Et-Fidus United States. July 30 2012 11:50. Posts 115 | Profile Blog # |
| this is great, now i think the general forum will be less clogged up with general tutorial-esq style posts, and more organized posts can be put here |
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 Empyrean July 31 2012 11:26. Posts 16305 | Profile Blog # |
On July 30 2012 11:50 Fortis-Et-Fidus wrote:
this is great, now i think the general forum will be less clogged up with general tutorial-esq style posts, and more organized posts can be put here
When has the general forum ever been clogged with tutorial style posts? |
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| Probe1 United States. July 31 2012 12:33. Posts 16445 | Profile Blog # |
| When can we expect new threads to start popping up? |
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| MightyAtom Korea (South). July 31 2012 14:33. Posts 1573 | Profile Blog # |
On July 31 2012 12:33 Probe1 wrote:
When can we expect new threads to start popping up?
There are about 8 in the pipeline right now, but these articles are taking time to write as they are a bit more involved. But we should start seeing some regular articles within a couple of weeks by other contributors. |
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| Probe1 United States. July 31 2012 14:39. Posts 16445 | Profile Blog # |
| Cool, I look forward to it! |
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 StateofReverie United States. July 31 2012 16:20. Posts 632 | Profile Blog # |
| When are more of these articles going to be posted? I eagerly await future articles! |
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 bkrow Australia. August 06 2012 11:36. Posts 8386 | Profile Blog # |
On July 31 2012 16:20 StateofReverie wrote:
When are more of these articles going to be posted? I eagerly await future articles!
On July 31 2012 14:33 MightyAtom wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 12:33 Probe1 wrote:
When can we expect new threads to start popping up?
There are about 8 in the pipeline right now, but these articles are taking time to write as they are a bit more involved. But we should start seeing some regular articles within a couple of weeks by other contributors.
On July 31 2012 14:39 Probe1 wrote:
Cool, I look forward to it!
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| Lightwip United States. August 06 2012 14:34. Posts 5497 | Profile Blog # |
No offense to those who put in the effort, but given the flow of the first knowhow series, this seems like a thinly veiled set of endorsements. There is some content, but a lot of it simply seems to be an attempt to advertise a product.
I'm not saying endorsements are a bad thing, because honestly, anything technical needs a good expert to teach it (in the detail offered by a book), not just a blog post or two. But it shouldn't revolve around marketing a product like MA's current posts seem to do because that seriously cheapens the experience.
Right now, it feels like more of a sales pitch than anything else. Changing the feel of it would be very helpful. A book is quite helpful, but marketing it shouldn't be the focus of a post. |
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| MightyAtom Korea (South). August 08 2012 20:40. Posts 1573 | Profile Blog # |
On August 06 2012 11:36 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 16:20 StateofReverie wrote:
When are more of these articles going to be posted? I eagerly await future articles!
Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 14:33 MightyAtom wrote:
On July 31 2012 12:33 Probe1 wrote:
When can we expect new threads to start popping up?
There are about 8 in the pipeline right now, but these articles are taking time to write as they are a bit more involved. But we should start seeing some regular articles within a couple of weeks by other contributors.
Unfortunately, I have had some complications of exhaustion from a recent surgery a few weeks ago and I'm currently caught in a national flood here while visiting the Philippines. As soon as we can, they will placed out. |
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| MightyAtom Korea (South). August 08 2012 20:46. Posts 1573 | Profile Blog # |
On August 06 2012 14:34 Lightwip wrote:
No offense to those who put in the effort, but given the flow of the first knowhow series, this seems like a thinly veiled set of endorsements. There is some content, but a lot of it simply seems to be an attempt to advertise a product.
I'm not saying endorsements are a bad thing, because honestly, anything technical needs a good expert to teach it (in the detail offered by a book), not just a blog post or two. But it shouldn't revolve around marketing a product like MA's current posts seem to do because that seriously cheapens the experience.
Right now, it feels like more of a sales pitch than anything else. Changing the feel of it would be very helpful. A book is quite helpful, but marketing it shouldn't be the focus of a post.
The amount of work I put into the posts as well as the fact that they are for a reader who isn't involved with start-ups, I'd really have to disagree with your assessment as they are thinly veiled set of endorsements and I get that people don't like advertising etc, but they are books, you can get them at a library, buy them used and I have bought them for my own staff and would have my own children, when they are old enough read them. So in terms of cheapening the experience, I'd agree if you just take the posts as is, but if you give me the benefit of the doubt that I'm sincerely talking about books that I know have real value, and you do one day read them, and are involved in a new project; then I think that is where the real value of the experience comes from, from the doing not just reading a blog post for an experience. |
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| Dandel Ion Austria. August 08 2012 21:50. Posts 6229 | Profile # |
On August 08 2012 20:46 MightyAtom wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 14:34 Lightwip wrote:
No offense to those who put in the effort, but given the flow of the first knowhow series, this seems like a thinly veiled set of endorsements. There is some content, but a lot of it simply seems to be an attempt to advertise a product.
I'm not saying endorsements are a bad thing, because honestly, anything technical needs a good expert to teach it (in the detail offered by a book), not just a blog post or two. But it shouldn't revolve around marketing a product like MA's current posts seem to do because that seriously cheapens the experience.
Right now, it feels like more of a sales pitch than anything else. Changing the feel of it would be very helpful. A book is quite helpful, but marketing it shouldn't be the focus of a post.
The amount of work I put into the posts as well as the fact that they are for a reader who isn't involved with start-ups, I'd really have to disagree with your assessment as they are thinly veiled set of endorsements and I get that people don't like advertising etc, but they are books, you can get them at a library, buy them used and I have bought them for my own staff and would have my own children, when they are old enough read them. So in terms of cheapening the experience, I'd agree if you just take the posts as is, but if you give me the benefit of the doubt that I'm sincerely talking about books that I know have real value, and you do one day read them, and are involved in a new project; then I think that is where the real value of the experience comes from, from the doing not just reading a blog post for an experience.
That's just circular reasoning...
"You didn't read the books, so you don't know how great they are, so you have to read the books."
You say that reading the blog is not enough, and it isn't. And that makes the blogs adverts, well written and lenghty one maybe. But nothing more.
I get that you/TL like money (who doesn't), but this is not what I expected. |
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| Lightwip United States. August 09 2012 01:14. Posts 5497 | Profile Blog # |
On August 08 2012 20:46 MightyAtom wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 14:34 Lightwip wrote:
No offense to those who put in the effort, but given the flow of the first knowhow series, this seems like a thinly veiled set of endorsements. There is some content, but a lot of it simply seems to be an attempt to advertise a product.
I'm not saying endorsements are a bad thing, because honestly, anything technical needs a good expert to teach it (in the detail offered by a book), not just a blog post or two. But it shouldn't revolve around marketing a product like MA's current posts seem to do because that seriously cheapens the experience.
Right now, it feels like more of a sales pitch than anything else. Changing the feel of it would be very helpful. A book is quite helpful, but marketing it shouldn't be the focus of a post.
The amount of work I put into the posts as well as the fact that they are for a reader who isn't involved with start-ups, I'd really have to disagree with your assessment as they are thinly veiled set of endorsements and I get that people don't like advertising etc, but they are books, you can get them at a library, buy them used and I have bought them for my own staff and would have my own children, when they are old enough read them. So in terms of cheapening the experience, I'd agree if you just take the posts as is, but if you give me the benefit of the doubt that I'm sincerely talking about books that I know have real value, and you do one day read them, and are involved in a new project; then I think that is where the real value of the experience comes from, from the doing not just reading a blog post for an experience.
I don't doubt that the books do have real value; I've taken a look at at least a few and they seem fairly helpful.
But this isn't about whether or not the books are helpful, because that's not the point. With the setup that requires that the blogs be endorsements of a product and your writing style, it does come off as an advertisement more than anything else. The vibe I get is "buy the book I'm advertising or we have nothing to talk about." Maybe that would be more reasonable if you were giving advice to people that all intend to start a business in the near future. I'm willing to bet that most of the people who read do so purely out of curiosity. While that doesn't mean they wouldn't buy the book, it certainly does mean that it's not reasonable to ask them to read up on the subject in detail before even starting to discuss it.
The fact that there is almost no discussion despite quite a few views in your posts supports this. |
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