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Buying a chassis + processor for streaming

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 Frostfire   United States. July 19 2012 08:53. Posts 404
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I'm looking for a motherboard, processor, and chassis that I can use for streaming.

At the moment all I have is a Laptop that streams about 30 fps on all low settings, early-midgame, around 15 fps late game

And a shuttle-type PC that has a subpar duo core processor. I need a new chassis so I can support a better processor (due to a shuttle PC having a small case). It was custom made, so I can't really link you to any model. I do have the specs though:


+ Show Spoiler +

So what I really need is a processor. With this Bundle I think I will be able to stream due to the massive upgrade in processing.

Any thoughts TL?
What do you recommend I should buy thats <$230? I need a Chassis, Motherboard, and a Processor.
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 Lowko   Netherlands. July 19 2012 09:00. Posts 247
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It will be very hard to buy decent hardware with that budget, especially for streaming.
Most people that shop on a budget for streaming will pay around ~180-200 dollars on a processor alone (i5 2500k) and easily another 100 dollars for the motherboard and 50 dollars at the case. This is at cheapest with stock cooling.

Also, what power supply do you have? Will it be able to support the new hardware? And what about your RAM? Is it DDR2 or DDR3?
There are alot of factors to take into considerations.

Do you have full specs of your current PC and a maximum budget? I'd love to help.
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 Frostfire   United States. July 19 2012 09:03. Posts 404
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My maximum budget is $230, and this "deal" on compusa only lasts for 2 days, IIRC (cant find it on the site, just remember it saying that somewhere) so I'm in kind of a hurry.

I have DDR3 RAM.

I don't really know what else to say, (not trying to be rude, just not very computer smart)

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  EnE   July 19 2012 09:08. Posts 417Profile Blog # 
The bundle looks okay.

Basically, for a real budget streaming PC a Phenom II X6 is what you want and it would benefit quite a lot from a good case and even some cheaper aftermarket cooling.

I'm currently using the lowest phenom II (1035t) and I'm still running it at over 3.4 Ghz on the bus without trouble so my Starcraft 2 is flying.

In general, even though good cooling costs a little bit more, if you're looking to stream on a tight budget, you could need the benefit in cost efficiency of overclocking to really achieve what you want.
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 Alryk   United States. July 19 2012 09:09. Posts 2229
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Uh are you sure that you have DDR3 ram? All of the computers available that have your CPU only show DDR2 RAM from what I can tell.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000010&IsNodeId=1&Description=amd%20athlon%2064%20x2%205400&name=Desktop%20PCs&Order=BESTMATCH

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=amd+athlon+64+x2+5400&x=0&y=0
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 Frostfire   United States. July 19 2012 09:13. Posts 404
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Yeah I have DDR3, I don't know how, I didn't build the PC, my father did.
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 Lowko   Netherlands. July 19 2012 09:17. Posts 247
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Could you post exact specs of your current system, including case?
I highly doubt you will need a new case to have a new processor.

EDIT: Maybe your father knows what he built for you. Ask him?
Last edit: 2012-07-19 09:18:34
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 Alryk   United States. July 19 2012 09:22. Posts 2229
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Yeah... I don't think you can have DDR3. I don't really know tech that far back, so maybe it supports both standards (???) but from what I can tell there's like no way you can have DDR3 RAM. Like other guy says, can you post exact specs of your PC?
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 Frostfire   United States. July 19 2012 09:25. Posts 404
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What do you need to know about the current system?
Unfortunately I am not using it at the moment, as I am at my mother's house. Tomorrow I will be able to tell you, but then I'll have a 1 day deadline before this deal ends :/

I do know the computer used to be used as a server PC, so he built 4-5 PC's in VERY small containers so they could be stacked onto eachother in a small area (small business). I know we had to remove 2 HDD's so the graphics card could fit in it, the small power supply takes up about 1/3 of the case, we're talking small.
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 Lowko   Netherlands. July 19 2012 09:31. Posts 247
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The one thing you need to take into consideration if it is worth to spent 200 dollars on buying outdated hardware, when if you can spent double you can have a pc with much much better hardware for a relatively small cost.

Ofcourse it's your money, but my advice would be to save up maybe 400-500 euros and buy a brand new system with your old GPU and HDD's. If your set on buying a new system right now, you probably won't get much more than that bundle, especially because the 1045T alone is worth around ~130 dollar.
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 skyR   Canada. July 19 2012 09:34. Posts 11177
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AM2 doesn't support DDR3 so you don't have DDR3. Meaning you will have to buy new memory as well (~$40 for 2x4gb).
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 Frostfire   United States. July 19 2012 09:36. Posts 404
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Well the problem is, I'm only 14, so I don't make very much money very often, and I just happene dto stumble upon this bundle. So it's like, do I spend $200 now on something that will accomplish what Im trying to do but is kind of outdated, or save money for a VERY long time to get something that will probably be outdated by the time I can afford it
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 skyR   Canada. July 19 2012 09:49. Posts 11177
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Don't really understand your reasoning...? How would you buy outdated tech if you saved up money... you would be buying the latest tech.

Right now you're buying a five year old processor with a shitty power supply that will probably crap out within the next five years.
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 Frostfire   United States. July 19 2012 09:53. Posts 404
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Oh yeah, my brain accidentally a logic when I thought about tech constantly evolving.
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 Frostfire   United States. July 19 2012 09:59. Posts 404
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Is 5 years not a long time? I just got a new power supply about a week ago, that's pretty good ($100).
Is the processor shitty? I thought 6X was pretty good considering I have a duo core...
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 skyR   Canada. July 19 2012 10:10. Posts 11177
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I would return the power supply if possible since a $100 power supply is extremely unnecessary for someone who can't spend more than ~$200 on the processor + motherboard. Five years for a power supply isn't a long time, even the budget units that are about $30-$40 such as the Corsair CX or Antec Earthwatts should last for more than five years.

X6 will allow you to stream but it's pretty shitty when you compare it to Intel's offerings.
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 Frostfire   United States. July 19 2012 10:14. Posts 404
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My other power supply died, so my grandfather had a few that were unused, so he gave me one. I know it was priced at $100 so I just used it d:

I see, thank you for helping me.
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  EnE   July 19 2012 16:34. Posts 417Profile Blog # 
Phenom II x6 build:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186047 Decent Cooler ($40)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B006G76LZY/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1342682955&sr=8-1&keywords=phenom+II+x6&condition=new Cheapest Stream Capable Processor ($130)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157215 Value AM3 Motherboard ($43)
http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Z11-Performance-Power-Supply/dp/B007M4V7QI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1342683675&sr=8-2&keywords=Zalman+z11+plus Zalman z11 Plus case ($50)


Total: $260 ($240 cheap cooler, $220 no cooler, if you want to save as much as possible). Push for 3.4 or 3.5 ghz on the bus with that if the temps are okay and you'll be able to do what you want.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 (Processor $189)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157315 Value i5 Motherboard ($43)
http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Z11-Performance-Power-Supply/dp/B007M4V7QI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1342683675&sr=8-2&keywords=Zalman+z11+plus Zalman z11 Plus case ($50)

Total: $282. Probably doesn't perform so well streaming as a 3.4+ ghz Phenom II X6, but it'll make up for it with single threaded performance. A little more expensive, even if you throw in $40 for a cooler with the other build.



But those cheap boards wont allow you to reach maximum performance, but that's how it is if you want a mid level gaming PC on a super budget.
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 Boblhead   United States. July 19 2012 17:21. Posts 2557
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On July 19 2012 16:34 EnE wrote:
Phenom II x6 build:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186047 Decent Cooler ($40)



you can cut $20 just from the cooler. a H212 should be able to do the job

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

@OP if you live near a microcenter you can save quite a bit of money on CPU/MOBO combos they have.
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  EnE   July 19 2012 18:28. Posts 417Profile Blog # 
Yeah I know, I did mention that, but if he really wants to save money he can also go cooler-less. I used the more expensive cooler because I assume he wants to reach performance comparable to an i5 build, but obviously the really cheapest decent PC would be a 1045t with no cooler.
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