| stratmatt United States. August 10 2012 23:51. Posts 755 | Profile # |
On August 10 2012 16:22 bellsprout wrote: Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 04:30 andrewlt wrote: On August 10 2012 02:46 holy_war wrote: On August 10 2012 02:25 Whatson wrote: On August 09 2012 23:43 bellsprout wrote: On August 09 2012 22:49 stratmatt wrote: tbh when you have the lineup usa has, over-coaching is def a possibility. other than that, coach k is an AMAZING coach, one of the best in the history of the sport easily.
he could well be, but at the same time you can see how the results of Team USA may not be directly correlated with his coaching ability. and it's evident that there are some fundamentals that the team does not do very well, eg pick n roll defense. and i think at this stage of the team it can't be attributed to apathy/lack of effort
It's not like it matters that much lol, not when you're twice as athletic and talented as any other team out there. Just getting all these egos to work together and play like a team is already good enough
Exactly, Coach K has done a great job managing egos and making Team USA play as a pretty cohesive team. The 02' and 04' teams lacked team unity, not talent.
Those teams were also poorly constructed. Too many ball stoppers who play one on one on offense. They didn't have good outside shooters. Some were terrible at defense. This team has plenty of good outside shooters who are good at the catch and shoot. They have good passers as well. Even the two biggest ball stoppers on the team (Kobe and Carmelo) are efficient enough at the catch and shoot that they work well when Lebron, Deron or CP3 are handling the ball.
lol kobe. from what ive seen in this competition, i think other teams' best defense is to leave kobe open, D up the other 4 and hope coach K keeps giving kobe extended minutes like he's been doing. his garbage time display vs australia doesn't vindicate him at all, and he still plays no D.
lol dude, you are talking about kobe bryant. nobody leaves kobe open, not even in the nba. |
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| bellsprout Australia. August 11 2012 00:57. Posts 219 | Profile # |
On August 10 2012 23:51 stratmatt wrote: Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 16:22 bellsprout wrote: On August 10 2012 04:30 andrewlt wrote: On August 10 2012 02:46 holy_war wrote: On August 10 2012 02:25 Whatson wrote: On August 09 2012 23:43 bellsprout wrote: On August 09 2012 22:49 stratmatt wrote: tbh when you have the lineup usa has, over-coaching is def a possibility. other than that, coach k is an AMAZING coach, one of the best in the history of the sport easily.
he could well be, but at the same time you can see how the results of Team USA may not be directly correlated with his coaching ability. and it's evident that there are some fundamentals that the team does not do very well, eg pick n roll defense. and i think at this stage of the team it can't be attributed to apathy/lack of effort
It's not like it matters that much lol, not when you're twice as athletic and talented as any other team out there. Just getting all these egos to work together and play like a team is already good enough
Exactly, Coach K has done a great job managing egos and making Team USA play as a pretty cohesive team. The 02' and 04' teams lacked team unity, not talent.
Those teams were also poorly constructed. Too many ball stoppers who play one on one on offense. They didn't have good outside shooters. Some were terrible at defense. This team has plenty of good outside shooters who are good at the catch and shoot. They have good passers as well. Even the two biggest ball stoppers on the team (Kobe and Carmelo) are efficient enough at the catch and shoot that they work well when Lebron, Deron or CP3 are handling the ball.
lol kobe. from what ive seen in this competition, i think other teams' best defense is to leave kobe open, D up the other 4 and hope coach K keeps giving kobe extended minutes like he's been doing. his garbage time display vs australia doesn't vindicate him at all, and he still plays no D.
lol dude, you are talking about kobe bryant. nobody leaves kobe open, not even in the nba.
hmmm what i said about kobe sounded pretty bad. i ain't blind hatin. i will say this, however - team USA ain't the lakers. it's not built around kobe.
then again, they haven't really been tested yet. maybe he's just coasting in 2nd gear, saving it for that "oh shit" moment. u know lebron's going to be clutch 4 quarters. iguodala can go hard for 4 quarters too and he's prob been itching to sub kobeLast edit: 2012-08-11 00:57:57 |
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| stratmatt United States. August 11 2012 01:03. Posts 755 | Profile # |
On August 11 2012 00:57 bellsprout wrote: Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 23:51 stratmatt wrote: On August 10 2012 16:22 bellsprout wrote: On August 10 2012 04:30 andrewlt wrote: On August 10 2012 02:46 holy_war wrote: On August 10 2012 02:25 Whatson wrote: On August 09 2012 23:43 bellsprout wrote: On August 09 2012 22:49 stratmatt wrote: tbh when you have the lineup usa has, over-coaching is def a possibility. other than that, coach k is an AMAZING coach, one of the best in the history of the sport easily.
he could well be, but at the same time you can see how the results of Team USA may not be directly correlated with his coaching ability. and it's evident that there are some fundamentals that the team does not do very well, eg pick n roll defense. and i think at this stage of the team it can't be attributed to apathy/lack of effort
It's not like it matters that much lol, not when you're twice as athletic and talented as any other team out there. Just getting all these egos to work together and play like a team is already good enough
Exactly, Coach K has done a great job managing egos and making Team USA play as a pretty cohesive team. The 02' and 04' teams lacked team unity, not talent.
Those teams were also poorly constructed. Too many ball stoppers who play one on one on offense. They didn't have good outside shooters. Some were terrible at defense. This team has plenty of good outside shooters who are good at the catch and shoot. They have good passers as well. Even the two biggest ball stoppers on the team (Kobe and Carmelo) are efficient enough at the catch and shoot that they work well when Lebron, Deron or CP3 are handling the ball.
lol kobe. from what ive seen in this competition, i think other teams' best defense is to leave kobe open, D up the other 4 and hope coach K keeps giving kobe extended minutes like he's been doing. his garbage time display vs australia doesn't vindicate him at all, and he still plays no D.
lol dude, you are talking about kobe bryant. nobody leaves kobe open, not even in the nba.
hmmm what i said about kobe sounded pretty bad. i ain't blind hatin. i will say this, however - team USA ain't the lakers. it's not built around kobe. then again, they haven't really been tested yet. maybe he's just coasting in 2nd gear, saving it for that "oh shit" moment. u know lebron's going to be clutch 4 quarters. iguodala can go hard for 4 quarters too and he's prob been itching to sub kobe
Well yeah Kobe is old now, and he is mostly coasting when he can due to pain we prob dont even know about, but when you absolutely need him he will be there, always will be. |
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| Roggay Switzerland. August 11 2012 01:15. Posts 4757 | Profile # |
| Wow, some awful shooting going on right now between spain and russia. |
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| Roggay Switzerland. August 11 2012 01:33. Posts 4757 | Profile # |
Ahahah, rudy fernandez getting caught flopping. Anyone watching the match btw?Last edit: 2012-08-11 01:33:55 |
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| Telcontar United Kingdom. August 11 2012 01:33. Posts 15848 | Profile # |
One of my goals in life is to see Rudy Fernandez's face punched, really fucking hard.  |
| | Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta. |
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| bellsprout Australia. August 11 2012 01:38. Posts 219 | Profile # | |
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| andrewlt United States. August 11 2012 01:41. Posts 3112 | Profile # |
| Seeing these brickfests between other teams just shows that the US team so far is really winning due to offense. Spain shooting 20% for the first half... |
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| bellsprout Australia. August 11 2012 02:03. Posts 219 | Profile # |
| yea shows what packin the paint can do. i can see kirilenko giving USA fits |
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| bellsprout Australia. August 11 2012 02:08. Posts 219 | Profile # |
| i'm not sure who i'm going for... |
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| r00ty Germany. August 11 2012 02:08. Posts 519 | Profile # |
On August 11 2012 01:33 Roggay wrote: Ahahah, rudy fernandez getting caught flopping. Anyone watching the match btw?
Ye, i can not eat as much as i want to vomit when i see this guy pulling off his shit again and again...
Unfortunately I cannot watch the rest of the match and beginning of USA - ARG. Gotta play myself. Hope Russia wil make it.
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| Roggay Switzerland. August 11 2012 02:23. Posts 4757 | Profile # |
On August 11 2012 02:08 r00ty wrote: Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 01:33 Roggay wrote: Ahahah, rudy fernandez getting caught flopping. Anyone watching the match btw?
Ye, i can not eat as much as i want to vomit when i see this guy pulling off his shit again and again... Unfortunately I cannot watch the rest of the match and beginning of USA - ARG. Gotta play myself.  Hope Russia wil make it.
I want to play too But I sprained my ankle last week :/ |
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| AxionSteel Australia. August 11 2012 02:29. Posts 6154 | Profile # | |
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| Roggay Switzerland. August 11 2012 02:30. Posts 4757 | Profile # |
On August 11 2012 02:29 AxionSteel wrote: Noooo Russia meltdown
Or spain actually woke up. |
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| AxionSteel Australia. August 11 2012 02:31. Posts 6154 | Profile # |
On August 11 2012 02:30 Roggay wrote:Or spain actually woke up.
They are playing beautifully ATM yes. |
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| bellsprout Australia. August 11 2012 02:32. Posts 219 | Profile # |
wtf. this is a blowout given the shooting %
edit: lol ak47Last edit: 2012-08-11 02:40:55 |
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| andrewlt United States. August 11 2012 02:44. Posts 3112 | Profile # |
| Considering Spain isn't noted for its defense, I'd say it's a little of both. Spain's offense woke up in the second half but the Russians are having a bit of a meltdown offensively as well. |
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| skrotcyk Sweden. August 11 2012 03:14. Posts 427 | Profile # |
anyone got a link to a livestream (with english commentary)?
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| Usagi Spain. August 11 2012 03:48. Posts 1028 | Profile # |
| that 15 - 0 in 5 minutes is the spain i love. after making me suffer all game. ak looked like a fair gun, but spains defence with llull reyes calderon and san emeterio was electric, pitty of injured rubio for extra fast hands! |
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| Sprungjeezy United States. August 11 2012 04:15. Posts 1196 | Profile Blog # |
On August 11 2012 03:14 skrotcyk wrote: anyone got a link to a livestream (with english commentary)?
thanks
If you download Expat Shield (easy program to use/download) it will give you UK proxy so you can use the BBC coverage of the Olympics (they have quite a few livestreams for all of the events).
edit: I suppose I should clarify, to get to bbc's coverage you have to go to their website http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/2012/ - it's kind of a hassle to find what you want, but once you do it works pretty well.Last edit: 2012-08-11 04:18:31 |
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