| pdd Australia. July 24 2012 18:22. Posts 8251 | Profile Blog # |
On July 24 2012 17:51 gengka wrote:
i have a feeling that there will be no more balance changes after this. Blizzard will probably let the players to adjust themselves and 'balance things up', and concentrate more on HOTS from now on. its like:
"what's the point of having tons of meetings and analysis to try balancing a game with big design flaws. Even if we did, when HOTS is out there will be tons of other problems surfacing and all the previous effort will be wasted."
Yeah, it makes sense, but when HotS beta comes out, they have to be on the ball with balance patch changes.
No more patch changes 2-3 months after they were necessary. (phoenix range, overlord speed buff in conjunction with queen range)
No more randomly nerfing something immediately after it becomes standard without giving people time to adjust. (blueflame hellion nerf, strike cannon nerf)
No more "one race is meant to be so much stronger than the other nonsense" (in regards to David Kim's comments on TvP.)
More communication on the reasons for balance changes and the current state of ladder balance.
More prompt admissions that they were wrong (bunker salvage/build time, neutral supply depots, etc)
More experimentation on little used units (carriers, Ravens, Thors, BCs)Last edit: 2012-07-24 18:25:15 |
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| Goozen Israel. July 24 2012 18:29. Posts 629 | Profile # |
| I hope this will help with the custom games, EU seems to be kind of stagnant as far as popular games go. |
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| Zoku July 24 2012 18:33. Posts 227 | Profile # |
| I recommend putting "No balance changes" in the thread title, so all us Terrans don't get our hopes up. |
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| Ambre France. July 24 2012 18:36. Posts 218 | Profile # |
Great patch.
For once, I think it's fine not having a balance patch (terran player here). The metagame needs time to adjust (remember how the balance worked in BW days ?) I look forward for those nice UI changes !
Any idea on the release date ? |
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| sotaporo Finland. July 24 2012 18:38. Posts 143 | Profile # |
| i think it was announced ages ago that patch 1.5 would be anything but balance patch |
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| jment Austria. July 24 2012 18:45. Posts 58 | Profile # |
| Do Banelings also damage air units? O-O |
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| graNite Germany. July 24 2012 18:48. Posts 1909 | Profile Blog # |
On July 24 2012 18:45 jment wrote:
Do Banelings also damage air units? O-O
No.
The colossus is partly an air unit and it should be able to be hit be a baneling, too. |
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 polyphonyEX United States. July 24 2012 18:49. Posts 2539 | Profile # |
| This is kind of huge. Reading through the notes right now. |
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| Hypemeup Sweden. July 24 2012 18:49. Posts 2638 | Profile # |
| Still no chat channel moderation, god damn it. |
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| guruPanda Germany. July 24 2012 18:49. Posts 22 | Profile # |
| Is it just me or does anyone else have the feeling that the SC2 client will be free2play soon, and you only need the full version for the features inside the Starcraft 2-Button? I really think this would make sense, because When Blizzard-Dota releases Blizz won't want only SC2-Buyers to have access to it, so it would make sense to make the Arcade free2play. |
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| Toadvine Poland. July 24 2012 18:49. Posts 2197 | Profile # |
On July 24 2012 18:22 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 17:51 gengka wrote:
i have a feeling that there will be no more balance changes after this. Blizzard will probably let the players to adjust themselves and 'balance things up', and concentrate more on HOTS from now on. its like:
"what's the point of having tons of meetings and analysis to try balancing a game with big design flaws. Even if we did, when HOTS is out there will be tons of other problems surfacing and all the previous effort will be wasted."
Yeah, it makes sense, but when HotS beta comes out, they have to be on the ball with balance patch changes. No more patch changes 2-3 months after they were necessary. (phoenix range, overlord speed buff in conjunction with queen range) No more randomly nerfing something immediately after it becomes standard without giving people time to adjust. (blueflame hellion nerf, strike cannon nerf) No more "one race is meant to be so much stronger than the other nonsense" (in regards to David Kim's comments on TvP.) More communication on the reasons for balance changes and the current state of ladder balance. More prompt admissions that they were wrong (bunker salvage/build time, neutral supply depots, etc) More experimentation on little used units (carriers, Ravens, Thors, BCs)
Maybe in twenty years, when Dustin Browder publishes his memoirs. |
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| Lorch Germany. July 24 2012 18:50. Posts 2216 | Profile # |
On July 24 2012 18:36 Ambre wrote:
Great patch.
For once, I think it's fine not having a balance patch (terran player here). The metagame needs time to adjust (remember how the balance worked in BW days ?) I look forward for those nice UI changes !
Any idea on the release date ?
It has been in beta for 2+ month and before that in alpha. The last change to the 1.5 beta was like a month ago too. Both hots beta key contest that used the beta are over, blizzard said hots beta will start soon and 1.5 will be released before that.
So based on all those facts I'd say within the next few weeks, especially given we have the final patch notes. |
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| Bagi July 24 2012 18:51. Posts 5927 | Profile # |
| Disappointing. The game is in a terrible shape, metagame and balance-wise. |
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| OpTiKDream United States. July 24 2012 18:52. Posts 752 | Profile # |
| any ETA when its offically live on NA? |
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| Wildmoon Thailand. July 24 2012 18:56. Posts 2709 | Profile # |
On July 24 2012 18:51 Bagi wrote:
Disappointing. The game is in a terrible shape, metagame and balance-wise.
Not really.
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| Deimos0 Poland. July 24 2012 18:56. Posts 276 | Profile Blog # |
| Are they the same changes they made for the Beta Arcade? |
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| Diizzy United States. July 24 2012 18:57. Posts 742 | Profile # |
| hmm as i recall. two protoss in the gsl finals. and a terran winnign the summer mlg. i think the state of the game is fine. drg won a couple too but thats about it |
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| hashaki Norway. July 24 2012 18:58. Posts 157 | Profile # |
On July 24 2012 18:48 graNite wrote:No. The colossus is partly an air unit and it should be able to be hit be a baneling, too.
I'm assuming the bug with banelings not hitting colossus is because of colossus walking "on top" of other units, and not because it can be hit by air-units. I could be wrong tho.
Overall, a nice patch (about time)
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| SDream Brazil. July 24 2012 18:58. Posts 896 | Profile Blog # |
On July 24 2012 18:56 Deimos0 wrote:
Are they the same changes they made for the Beta Arcade?
The beta arcade is the "ptr" for 1.5, so yeah.
They just need to fix some bugs and they will launch it, might come next week, it's difficult to guess, but it's definitelly close. |
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| Assirra Belgium. July 24 2012 19:02. Posts 3210 | Profile # |
Blizzard patches when people are finding things OP and imbalanced
crowd: "Why u patch Blizzard, let pro's figure it, stop patching!"
Blizzard doesn't patch for once when something is found imbalanced.
crowd "Why you no patch Blizzard?!"Last edit: 2012-07-24 19:02:27 |
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