| Yacobs United States. July 26 2012 03:45. Posts 356 | Profile # |
We've had discussions on which is the best pub-carry hero. I.e., people who are fed up losing because of their teammates so they want to pick a hero that can win the whole game for them.
But what about something more flexible and reasonable: which hero is best at dominating their lane, almost no matter what the situation? And I don't mean a hero like, say, Lone Druid who can safely farm in a 2v1 hard lane situation. I'm not talking about winning the lane farm-wise. I mean, given a skilled player, which hero can be played aggressively in pretty much any lane situation (even with a crappy lane partner) such that the result is the enemy heroes either die or run away like scared weenies?
Also, please don't just list near-exclusively solo mid heroes like Invoker or whatever. Everyone already knows who is good 1v1. |
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| Spicy_Curry United States. July 26 2012 03:55. Posts 2244 | Profile Blog # |
| There is no hero that can dominate in any situation. |
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| ChrisXIV Austria. July 26 2012 04:02. Posts 2086 | Profile Blog # |
| None, especially if your lane partner is bad. |
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| cilinder007 Slovenia. July 26 2012 04:08. Posts 3230 | Profile # | |
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| Yacobs United States. July 26 2012 04:15. Posts 356 | Profile # |
| I'm not talking about versus world class players, here. I'm talking about heroes that can be played aggressively in a 2v2 lane versus typical pubs and have a good shot at killing/scaring people away. |
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| OrderlyChaos United States. July 26 2012 04:22. Posts 1085 | Profile Blog # |
In laning phase, Lich can control any lane with sacrifice and can spam his nuke starting at hero level 2 which can force squishy heros back pretty quickly. This gives space for carries to farm fairly easily, and with the right lane partner you could probably play fairly aggressively as well. There are situations where lich isn't ideal, and in the wrong situation, you will lose your tier 1 fairly quickly if you are not careful, but he's a pretty good overall laning hero.
Furion's ganking potential makes him a pretty good hero for dominating lanes, but that isn't really what your original post seems to be asking. |
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| Gak2 Canada. July 26 2012 04:33. Posts 354 | Profile # |
the real answer is there isn't any... there's simply too many variables to account for, and each hero has a circumstance that is most favourable.
You need to account for: # of enemies in lane, the enemy heroes, if you have a lane partner and what hero he is, and which lane you are in.... not to mention items, wards, etc. the list goes on
If you really want a suggestion though, try Viper. get level 1 of each skill then max out either your orb (in order to kill) or Nethertoxin (in order to dominate farm) depending on the situation. If lane is too hard you could even max your passive.
Use his orb attack to really push enemies out of lanes, and with a stunning/slowing lane partner you could easily get a kill.
Start with the usual healing items + branches + wraith band base item or ring of protection
boots -> power treads (to carry, usually) or phase boots (to be ultra aggressive)
ring of basilius -> ring of aquila
ring of health -> hood of defiance or vanguard (depends on enemy team) |
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| Corr Denmark. July 26 2012 06:35. Posts 529 | Profile # |
phoenix
oh wait...
windrunner |
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| rabidch Singapore. July 26 2012 06:37. Posts 8061 | Profile # |
| leshrac or viper. but thats just laning, as soon as you get out of it you have a bunch of other issues to deal with |
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| Rybka United States. July 26 2012 06:53. Posts 468 | Profile # |
Pudge.
If you hit your hooks, you win. If you don't, you lose. It's that simple really. He's best solomid, but he can be a brutal presence in a side-lane as well, especially if you are paired with a hero that can stun or slow. Stun-hook-mist-ult. Stun-hook-mist-ult. All day erryday. Once you get about 4 kills under your belt you start to snowball and become unstoppable. |
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| Yurie July 26 2012 06:56. Posts 2093 | Profile Blog # |
Pudge, even if you get no farm you can kill most heroes.
Windrunner, powershot spam with windrun to survive.
Phoenix (not in game yet)
TA, though she would have a hard time on a side lane.
Beastmaster, can go any lane, jungle, ancients, can solo kill.Last edit: 2012-07-26 06:56:24 |
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 ControlMonkey Australia. July 26 2012 06:57. Posts 1508 | Profile Blog # |
| Don't we already have enough of these threads? |
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| Audemed July 26 2012 07:03. Posts 589 | Profile # |
| Kunkka, tidebringer makes laning against you a fucking pain in the ass, once you know how to properly time torrent you can get great ganks off. Helps to lane with someone with a slow, but a range hero with some burst is also great. Can carry pretty hard too in the lategame, if you manage to get farmed all to hell you can cleave down whole teams in 1 hit. |
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| Suffo United States. July 26 2012 07:14. Posts 721 | Profile # |
| TA (ppl been picking it like every game, shit's OP man) , Rubick, a lot of jungle heroes cause pubs don't usually even try to gank them, lycan and furion being the most dangerous i'd say. Last edit: 2012-07-26 07:15:10 |
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| Nevuk United States. July 26 2012 07:16. Posts 4144 | Profile Blog # |
Your question seems to be more about which heroes can perform well in multiple roles while still having a strong landing presence.
Multiple role heroes:
Furion
Windrunner (both of these heroes can be used to solo top or mid or be very strong dominant supports in lane, and durion can jungle).
Sand king is as versatile as WR but being a melee hero makes hime less attractive
Same goes for beast master except that he CAN jungle as well
Just not optimal (and can also stack ancients regardless).
Clockwerk fits into the same area that sk does but can farm from a distance with flare
Puck sorta fits here too but really weak in a duo lane.
Those are the 3 roles or more heroes.
Now for the two role heroes.
SD is strong mid or in a side lane with the right partner.
Same for AA, lich, WD, and other ranged supports to a lesser degree.
Now if you're asking for incredibly strong lane you need a friend.
Some of the strongest kill combos in the game:
Sand king/Lina
Sand king/leshrac
Lina / Sven (this is a classic one, actually)
Ck/AA
CK/Lina
CK/CM
Veno/Ogre (one of the nastiest lanes to face)
Mirana/clock
Silencer+BS (really useless after landing phase typically but it will leave the opposing team frothing at the mouth.
Juggernaut/CM (or WD, Veno, etc. CM is just best at it)
Mirana/ES (once the dominant lane, now merely a very strong one)
I'm sure I'm forgetting some here and there are ones that are probably stronger now than some of the old ones.
If you just want a strong lane hero... that's all your preference as to which is acceptable
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wht zuits you best. With that said, CM, Venom, CK, Brew, Lich, WD, WR, all work well uin.amost any game.u
Note that this all depends with the skill bracjet . Other note is that I ignored roaming and doiblebjingld becausennanyone doing those should already know this stuff |
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| tube United States. July 26 2012 08:08. Posts 1197 | Profile Blog # | |
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| MrEnzyme July 26 2012 13:51. Posts 22 | Profile # |
| Dragon knight, skeleton king, leshrac, windrunner, etc. Pretty much a hero with a good stun that has the capacity to scale well and isnt hindered by sidelaning Last edit: 2012-07-26 13:51:27 |
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| coolcrimefighter United States. July 26 2012 13:55. Posts 323 | Profile Blog # |
| i think once you get an orb of venom on sniper (which you can later build into skadi) you can be pretty aggresive in your lane with your crazy range and headshot. You may even be able to force them out of lane just with autoattacks. |
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 Kipsate Netherlands. July 26 2012 14:03. Posts 17966 | Profile Blog # |
| Depends on the laning, there is no situation where a hero will definitly win you the lane unless you are that much better then them. That being said, Leshrac, Windrunner and Viper, Veno and Sylla(many underestimate his bear damage and from level 5 its lol root) are all pretty good picks apart from Viper because you know, you have a viper on your team then. Last edit: 2012-07-26 14:04:00 |
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| hyptonic July 26 2012 14:05. Posts 1373 | Profile # |
For 1v1 lane I feel huskar is up there as strongest..
Wins most trades |
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