| RespectedPuddle July 27 2012 07:58. Posts 80 | Profile # |
http://fiber.google.com/about/
Google internet? Sounds good.
Google launched Google Fiber in two Kansas Cities today, oddly enough. (MO and KS)
These cities are divided into "fiberhoods" where Google is willing to install fiber optic infrastructure, given sufficient interest.
Google is offering three different packages. The Gigabit and Fiber TV service will cost $120 a month and will include 1Gbps connectivity on the upstream as well as downstream. There is no data cap. It also comes with 1 terabyte of Google Drive cloud storage. The TV service will include all the regular broadcast TV channels, hundreds of Google Fiber TV channels, thousands of TV shows on demand, and premium movie channels.
There is also just Fiber internet for 70$ a month.
Then there is free internet, for a small 300$ construction fee.
Man i want Google Fiber at my place.
My Analysis: This has serious ramifications for the internet infrastructure of the United States. Comparatively, it is an area we are lacking in, and anyone who reads the first few pages of this thread (don't) will be treated to many an eloquent testimony. This new player in the market will significantly stir things up- the added competition might lower average prices, especially since Google will be stealing customers away from other companies with their free internet. This signifies a shift towards more efficient, functional, affordable internet.
While the prices are competitive, they are not outrageously cheap. What is important is that at comparable prices, Google is offering internet MUCH faster than anyone else. While faster internet speeds are nice for convenience, they are also important for productivity. 78.3 % of America uses some form of the internet- that's immense. Faster internet would mean higher productivity, resulting in a higher per capita output and possibly a higher GDP.
On a smaller scale, the localized monopolies over internet and cable access may be disrupted. Companies won't be able to get away with offering 5mb/s internet or other comparably slow products for similar prices to Google, which will mean the industry may be forced to shift.
Please note: 1 Gigabit is not the same as 1 Gigabyte. 1 Gigabit = 1/8 Gigabyte >> 1/8 Gigabyte = 125 Megabyte
ATTN: Any TLers in Kansas City, MO should stop by the "Google Fiber Space" to test out the goods and report back to us!
from Google: "Drop by the Google Fiber Space in Kansas City located in the Volker Square Center. Experience first hand 100 times faster Internet, watch crystal clear high definition TV, and chat with Google Fiber team members to get all your questions answered."
https://fiber.google.com/cities/#fiberspace=&upcoming=%252Fkansas%253F
Interesting Comments:
On July 27 2012 08:16 Probe1 wrote: I think this is relevant to post. Even if a "Fiberhood" reaches a critical amount of registered users, they will still have to wait 12 months to receive 1gb internet.
This is true, the obvious lack of immediate infrastructure could provide some challenges for Google, especially outside of the Kansas Cities, i.e people being discouraged/ disenfranchised by the long wait
On July 27 2012 08:31 Irrelevant Label wrote:
The monopoly killing factor is the main reason US americans are happy to see this. There are a lot of regions where high speed internet runs upwards of $50/month for service comparable to what this has at the $0 point. I'm stuck with 20 mb/s for $70, it gets worse but in civilized countries it also gets a lot better. Introduce to the market that 5 mb/s is free and 1 gbit is $70 and you destroy all that.
Good analysis, but keep in mind that it's possible the free 5mb/s may not be free for everyone if Google Fiber took off. Google wouldn't necessarily be obligated to offer free internet to everyone everywhere.
On July 28 2012 01:05 Wegandi wrote: You have to realize that North America is still mostly wilderness and sticks. I know a lot of people (family and friends) who still only have access to dial up because they are in the middle of nowhere (This is in Maryland and WV). Europe and SK is different because they are very small (relatively) and most of the population is cloistered tightly.
Take a drive from Alexandria, VA straight across the Appalachians, Mid-West, into Nevada, and Oregon, etc. and 90% is either the sticks or farmland. Relatively few metropolis'. You know how expensive it would be to run fiber optics throughout the entire continent? Canada is even worse than the US in that even more of their country is sticks and wilderness.
This is important to keep in mind. The population density of the United States is, on average, much less dense than in Europe. That's one huge reason why local monopolies exist and why getting fiber optics everywhere will be such a challenge. Also a reason why on average, internet in America is comparatively slow than in Europe or South Korea.Last edit: 2012-07-28 02:08:20 |
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| Boblhead United States. July 27 2012 08:00. Posts 2557 | Profile # |
| I want this, brb moving to tornado alley! |
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| Necrophag1st United States. July 27 2012 08:00. Posts 35 | Profile Blog # |
Already posted  |
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| GwSC United States. July 27 2012 08:01. Posts 1730 | Profile # |
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On July 27 2012 07:58 RespectedPuddle wrote:http://fiber.google.com/about/Google internet? Sounds good. Google launched Google Fiber in two Kansas Cities today, oddly enough. (MO and KS) These cities are divided into "fiberhoods" where Google is willing to install fiber optic infrastructure, given sufficient interest. Google is offering three different packages. The Gigabit and Fiber TV service will cost $120 a month and will include 1Gbps connectivity on the upstream as well as downstream. There is no data cap. It also comes with 1 terabyte of Google Drive cloud storage. The TV service will include all the regular broadcast TV channels, hundreds of Google Fiber TV channels, thousands of TV shows on demand, and premium movie channels. There is also just Fiber internet for 70$ a month. Then there is free internet, for a small 300$ construction fee. Man i want Google Fiber at my place.
I just want to fast forward however many years (probably like 10) it takes before this is available where I live. They haven't even updated the lines enough to be able to handle a 10 mb connection (stuck on 7 atm), which is really depressing. Last edit: 2012-07-27 08:01:50 |
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| Lightswarm Canada. July 27 2012 08:03. Posts 785 | Profile Blog # |
| honestly, this should have been implemented years ago. I dont know why companies still have data cap, it is the most crippling thing for a country's internet infrastructure |
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| GogoKodo Canada. July 27 2012 08:06. Posts 1594 | Profile Blog # |
I'm very sad that things like the CRTC probably means this won't be coming to Canada for a very long time if ever  |
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| aeroblaster United States. July 27 2012 08:07. Posts 202 | Profile Blog # |
The free internet connection google offers is 5 mb and is only guaranteed for 7 years after install.
For the same $300, you can get the 1Gbps connection for 4 months and have $20 left over. |
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| Boblhead United States. July 27 2012 08:09. Posts 2557 | Profile # |
On July 27 2012 08:07 aeroblaster wrote:
The free internet connection google offers is 5 mb and is only guaranteed for 7 years after install.
For the same $300, you can get the 1Gbps connection for 4 months and have $20 left over.
ill take the 1gbps internets thank you very much! |
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| Euronyme Sweden. July 27 2012 08:10. Posts 3781 | Profile # |
What do you mean free? It still costs 70$ a month, doesn't it?
I pay 30$ for 8mbit. No limits or shit like that. What's unique about this? |
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| Probe1 United States. July 27 2012 08:11. Posts 16445 | Profile Blog # |
On July 27 2012 08:00 Necrophag1st wrote:Already posted
Where? Edit: Didn't think to look in the closed forum. You posted a link and one line on what it was. ...Last edit: 2012-07-27 08:21:13 |
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| analyze United States. July 27 2012 08:11. Posts 154 | Profile # |
On July 27 2012 08:10 Euronyme wrote:
What do you mean free? It still costs 70$ a month, doesn't it?
I pay 30$ for 8mbit. No limits or shit like that. What's unique about this?
$70 a month for the 1gb the lower one is free. |
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| Tachion July 27 2012 08:14. Posts 6978 | Profile # |
| I wish for nothing more than Google's completely overwhelming success. The internet speeds in the U.S. are atrocious compared to others across the world. |
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| Euronyme Sweden. July 27 2012 08:14. Posts 3781 | Profile # |
On July 27 2012 08:11 analyze wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 08:10 Euronyme wrote:
What do you mean free? It still costs 70$ a month, doesn't it?
I pay 30$ for 8mbit. No limits or shit like that. What's unique about this?
$70 a month for the 1gb the lower one is free.
See now you didn't read the OP. The 1gb costs 120$, and the other one costs 70$. Sounds like a scam to me. |
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| seiferoth10 July 27 2012 08:15. Posts 2689 | Profile # |
On July 27 2012 08:10 Euronyme wrote:
What do you mean free? It still costs 70$ a month, doesn't it?
I pay 30$ for 8mbit. No limits or shit like that. What's unique about this?
You must be extremely awful at geography. |
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| Malgrif Canada. July 27 2012 08:15. Posts 1089 | Profile Blog # |
| the speed conversion is essentially 125MB/s downloads. i hope it comes to canada soon =( Last edit: 2012-07-27 08:16:00 |
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| Kurr Canada. July 27 2012 08:16. Posts 2185 | Profile Blog # |
I have 7 mbps and honestly it's fast enough for anything I need to do (slightly annoying if downloading multiple things at once, otherwise all good). Not sure why anyone would want 1 gbps. The price sounds pretty good though honestly. Not that much more expensive than a regular internet connection.
In Canada, I believe the fastest internet is Bell with 175/175 down/up mbps with their fiber optics internet but even then that's not available in many places and much more expensive than what Google is offering in price.
I hope in the future, the CRTC will stop letting companies charge us 60$/mth for terrible internet with low caps and we can finally get fiber spread across canada @ reasonable prices. |
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| OuchyDathurts United States. July 27 2012 08:16. Posts 407 | Profile # |
Fuck you google, why are you taking over the world? lol.
I'd do awful things for that internet =P |
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| Probe1 United States. July 27 2012 08:16. Posts 16445 | Profile Blog # |
It's hard to provide estimates about construction timing because there are several factors (including weather) that we can’t control. But, barring these circumstances, we expect to install service to fiberhoods ranked in the top 50% by mid-2013. After September 9th we plan to publish a calendar with an approximate construction order.
I think this is relevant to post. Even if a "Fiberhood" reaches a critical amount of registered users, they will still have to wait 12 months to receive 1gb internet.
Still, sweet. Be nice if it came to FL
On July 27 2012 08:14 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 08:11 analyze wrote:
On July 27 2012 08:10 Euronyme wrote:
What do you mean free? It still costs 70$ a month, doesn't it?
I pay 30$ for 8mbit. No limits or shit like that. What's unique about this?
$70 a month for the 1gb the lower one is free.
See now you didn't read the OP. The 1gb costs 120$, and the other one costs 70$. Sounds like a scam to me.
I'm not sure you read the OP either, or at least you did a miraculous job of not mentioning the $120 being a package deal. For cable television + full premium channels + standard internet, that's an average price. They're offering a 100x better internet service with television for a comparable price.
Dunno how thats a scam lol. And google seems to be an awfully strange company to scam customers.Last edit: 2012-07-27 08:19:37 |
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| Tabbris Bangladesh. July 27 2012 08:16. Posts 2681 | Profile Blog # |
| Well by US standards 5mbs for free is pretty good |
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