| Targe United Kingdom. July 28 2012 04:06. Posts 2227 | Profile Blog # |
| I would love to try this but wouldnt just massing some lings at the beggining change things? |
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| Adonminus Israel. July 28 2012 04:28. Posts 507 | Profile # |
Genius, even though I'm protoss player. I really love to offrace as terran, and this build gonna make it so fun.
Imo, this has a lot of potential. Needs to be explored more and understand the ways zerg can counter this in practice and not theory crafting. |
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| -FoX United States. July 28 2012 04:29. Posts 463 | Profile # |
| This is hilariously awesome. I definitely wanna give this a try later today, looks like much more fun than your standard TvZ. |
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| caznitch July 28 2012 04:45. Posts 59 | Profile # |
I tried it! .. .. . . . Lets just say that you should not use this when zerg is 6 pooling! Ah the joys of being in silver league.  |
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| reikai United States. July 28 2012 04:49. Posts 313 | Profile # |
On July 28 2012 04:45 caznitch wrote:I tried it! .. .. . . . Lets just say that you should not use this when zerg is 6 pooling! Ah the joys of being in silver league.
Use it on 4 player maps! they shouldn't 6 pool there.... :o a little micro with 2 rax always kills those lings :D |
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 HGurryp July 28 2012 04:50. Posts 274 | Profile # |
I never tried this build, but what about early roaches? burrow infestors with nydus? 3 base broodlords?
But this build looks veryy nice, I always thought about doing one push with bunkers, barracks with siege tanks behind, turrets, and u did. |
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| RUFinalBoss United States. July 28 2012 04:56. Posts 237 | Profile # |
| i just tried it, zergs will now be saying nerf terran buildings xD |
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| 6xFPCs United States. July 28 2012 05:20. Posts 359 | Profile # |
So... zerg response should be fast ling speed and a runby before wall is finished? With a few spines to defend?
Or is the wall finished before ling speed is done? And is this faster than 17g speed? Or only faster than gas in response to contain?
Looks like good building placement far enough back from the ramp prevents spines from hitting the bunkers safely. Very clever.
Also, did I miss the part where you explain why 2base muta loses? Can't find anything but you making fun of nydus play. |
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| E.H Eager United States. July 28 2012 05:26. Posts 222 | Profile # |
This is pretty much the greatest build/idea I've seen in a while.
Props to you good sir. |
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| Split. Switzerland. July 28 2012 05:32. Posts 172 | Profile # |
Why do you post pictures of a 12min baneling bust?
Any decent Zerg will notice the contain in front of his base and will certainly not wait until 12min to try to baneling bust it. I am not sure how much the inital 2rax delays the economy but I feel even if zerg fully saturates his 2 bases first and then baneling busts it hits before you set a massive contain. Whats even more funny is that on ohana there are 2 ramps you have to contain, which you dont, and the zerg doesnt even try to flank.
So much to your example...
Also I don't see how a base next to your contain negates nydus? You know you can place a nydus everywhere? Baneling busting the contain from 2 sides is way more effective
Last but not least: The zerg can deny the initial contain after the 2 rax, if he knows whats up and made enough lings or even takes some drones
I give you credit for the effort of trying and refining new strategies, but your example is a bit lacking
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| SirPinky July 28 2012 05:53. Posts 241 | Profile # |
On July 28 2012 05:32 Split. wrote:
Why do you post pictures of a 12min baneling bust?
Any decent Zerg will notice the contain in front of his base and will certainly not wait until 12min to try to baneling bust it. I am not sure how much the inital 2rax delays the economy but I feel even if zerg fully saturates his 2 bases first and then baneling busts it hits before you set a massive contain. Whats even more funny is that on ohana there are 2 ramps you have to contain, which you dont, and the zerg doesnt even try to flank.
So much to your example...
Also I don't see how a base next to your contain negates nydus? You know you can place a nydus everywhere? Baneling busting the contain from 2 sides is way more effective
Last but not least: The zerg can deny the initial contain after the 2 rax, if he knows whats up and made enough lings or even takes some drones
I give you credit for the effort of trying and refining new strategies, but your example is a but lacking
I think this is a good example of "out-of-the-box" thinking and should be commended. But I do agree with some of your points. I think this build only works depending on the map; Ohana is not a good example because of the destructible at the natural, while I think maps like Antiga make this more viable. So I might try this depending on the map. Maybe Steps of War!  Last edit: 2012-07-28 05:54:45 |
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 Arcanefrost Belgium. July 28 2012 05:55. Posts 1119 | Profile Blog # |
| Im gonna offrace just to try this, looks ridiculously fun. |
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| Equalizer Canada. July 28 2012 05:59. Posts 106 | Profile # |
I could see this being effective with mech considering that by relocating there pretty much no push distance from your production facilities to the zerg base.
Your main ends up being rather far way from your army though if the game continues on to muta or nydus tech.
What do you think of relocating your main cc to say the zergs 4th once your expo is up and you can mine from there?
(this could loose too much mining time but just throwing the idea out there) |
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| HGurryp July 28 2012 06:12. Posts 274 | Profile # |
| Sensor towers looks very good for this build too, against nydus,mutas, mass overlord drops etc. |
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| KalWarkov Germany. July 28 2012 06:26. Posts 2861 | Profile Blog # |
nice fun strat that can catch ppl offguard, but if they simply baneling bust ur front with the help of some queens and drones, u automatically lose, dont u? i mean, your expension is gone as well...
dont see this working, but its rly creative and fun either way  |
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| GumBa Germany. July 28 2012 07:14. Posts 1629 | Profile # |
| Cool build will try it out for fun and lolz in the ladder :D |
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| Ethical Germany. July 28 2012 07:27. Posts 8 | Profile # |
| Just tried it out, it worked perfectly well for me (Diamond Terran). Very creative build which also makes a lot of fun! Thanks for this |
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| kranten Netherlands. July 28 2012 07:49. Posts 235 | Profile # |
| Haha, great build. Just faced 2 base broodlord/infestor (wanted to wait it out and see what he was going to do) |
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| Crilmon United States. July 28 2012 07:49. Posts 26 | Profile # |
| Yeah, any sort of blind 9ish min roach/bane bust (or earlier cause of rush distance) would absolutely crush this, cause you have 0 tanks until around 10 min. |
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| RoberP United Kingdom. July 31 2012 22:10. Posts 101 | Profile # |
Yeah it probably would, but the whole point is that most people won't have seen this before and don't know how to counter it Blind builds can counter a lot of builds, they also just lose to a lot of builds as well  Glad people are having success with this - post replays and I'll add them to the main topic so we can share your glory! |
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