| Fabozi Slovakia. July 28 2012 03:44. Posts 308 | Profile # |
I didn't see a thread for this so here we go.
The calendar for road cycling events:
28Jul
10:00
Men's Road Race - Final
29 Jul
12:00
Women's Road Race - Final
1 Aug
12:30
Women's Individual Time Trial - Final
1 Aug
14:15
Men's Individual Time Trial - Final
To see the schedule of other cycling events go to:
Monatain Bike
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So the Men's road race starts tomorrow at 10:00 London time and for me the question is can anybody beat Cavendish? The chances of a successful breakaway are close to none with the British team consisting of Wiggins, Froome and Millar ready to support Cavendish. For me the main favorites apart from Cavendish are Sagan, Greipel and Goss. Ofc i will be rooting for Sagan but I don't think he has the necessary speed to do it.Last edit: 2012-07-28 03:45:17 |
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| fbs United Kingdom. July 28 2012 10:36. Posts 2066 | Profile # |
Men's RR - should see the teams apart from GBR/Ger/Aus working together, Sagan can go either way but chances are he'd like to be away from Cav as well.
Will probably bet on Laura Trott in the omnium, Bauge in sprint, GBR in men's team pursuit and Hoy in kerin! Maybe Cancellara in TT since Wiggins odds are so low. |
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| Benjef United Kingdom. July 28 2012 18:52. Posts 5544 | Profile Blog # |
Damn this road race is quite interesting to watch. Didn't realise there was so many tactics in it.
Go team GB! |
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| Baituri Netherlands. July 29 2012 00:16. Posts 1486 | Profile # |
| I am happy for Vinokourov, but that was a present. |
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 alderamin July 29 2012 00:20. Posts 80 | Profile # |
Know doper (don't mean that he once doped and now is clean, he is riding doped currently) wins through matchfixing.
As an amateur cyclist I hate cycling as a 'sport' so much. As a fan you are always disappointed. You watch for hours then at the end they fake it. |
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| nookeh Netherlands. July 29 2012 00:30. Posts 6 | Profile # |
| Vino for president! oh.. wait... what? )) |
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| KobraKay Portugal. July 29 2012 00:35. Posts 2072 | Profile # |
On July 29 2012 00:20 alderamin wrote:
Know doper (don't mean that he once doped and now is clean, he is riding doped currently) wins through matchfixing.
As an amateur cyclist I hate cycling as a 'sport' so much. As a fan you are always disappointed. You watch for hours then at the end they fake it.
Wtf are you smoking? lol where was the fixing? Sadly Uran was naive and Vino took his chance.
On July 28 2012 10:36 fbs wrote:
Will probably bet on Laura Trott in the omnium, Bauge in sprint, GBR in men's team pursuit and Hoy in kerin! Maybe Cancellara in TT since Wiggins odds are so low.
Try to know if Cancellara is ok or not after the crash, otherwise it would be a really bad bet. If cancellara is actually not in condition Wiggins, Froome, Martin (maybe if his hand is better) and LLS if he comes up with determination are, in that order, the favourites in my eyes.Last edit: 2012-07-29 00:38:24 |
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| alderamin July 29 2012 00:41. Posts 80 | Profile # |
Tnx for the insult.
Cycling is a sport where fixing is very common and in fact Vino dit it before. Insiders always say: "Cycling is cheating". Each time it's a disgrace at the olympics. In fact, remember Vino and Ullrich? He fixed the result 3 times before at least and once before at the Olympics.
With all the obvious buying going on, one wonders how much of it is less obvious but still going on. Did Sanchez just refuse to cycle for his country/Valverde because he's an asshole, or did he get money too?Last edit: 2012-07-29 00:44:22 |
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| Stuv Netherlands. July 29 2012 01:27. Posts 903 | Profile Blog # |
What a nonsense. Cycling is different after 220+ km.
You can't just draw it out on a board.
Vino and Uran were the strongest in the bunch that was ahead.
Uran was naive or paid, whichever, it doesnt matter, its a part of cycling.
These situations occur and are not planned beforehand. |
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| Mondieu Romania. July 29 2012 01:52. Posts 588 | Profile # |
Gah! The guy talking about matchfixing in cycling xD So stupid, really. There are 200+kms, a lot of riders. There's no way you can control what's happening, unless you are communicating with the rider during the race which is impossible.
ah; again alderamin :> eat healthy and strong and u wouldn't be so jealous at pros.Last edit: 2012-07-29 01:53:34 |
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| Fischbacher Canada. July 29 2012 02:11. Posts 547 | Profile # |
Yes, Uran was paid off to let Vinokourov pass him. Because someone in their right mind predicted that it would come down to a sprint finish between those two. Right.
Was on the edge of my seat, what an upset. If I had to name my top 15 pre-race favourites none of them would have medaled. |
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| KobraKay Portugal. July 29 2012 03:12. Posts 2072 | Profile # |
On July 29 2012 00:41 alderamin wrote:
Tnx for the insult.
Cycling is a sport where fixing is very common and in fact Vino dit it before. Insiders always say: "Cycling is cheating". Each time it's a disgrace at the olympics. In fact, remember Vino and Ullrich? He fixed the result 3 times before at least and once before at the Olympics.
With all the obvious buying going on, one wonders how much of it is less obvious but still going on. Did Sanchez just refuse to cycle for his country/Valverde because he's an asshole, or did he get money too?
You're welcome  ....
But if you didn't get it, there was no insult there, just a simple question. Two in fact, and you provided no answer to both. I still dont know what are you smoking (this one is a joke) and I still dont know where exactly was the fixing in that race.
On to the cycling part of it. Vino did doping, that is not fixing, it is doping. Plus the Vino Ulrich scenario that you talk about I've never heard of it named as fixing but ok. And who are those insiders that say cycling is cheating? The only people I see stating such things are people who dont watch/know the first thing about cycling and only come around when bad things happen (just like in every other sport).
And another one...what obvious buying going on? The only thing I see are a bunch of statements with no backing, or even detail because "obvious buying" is vague just like every other "fact" in your post...plus I sure hope the sanchez you're talking about is not samuel because the man has broken bones in his body. |
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| fbs United Kingdom. July 29 2012 03:23. Posts 2066 | Profile # |
That was even more rest of world v GBR than I expected.
I will bear in mind that an injured Cancellara is not so good a bet. Thanks for info. |
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| Mithriel Netherlands. July 29 2012 03:25. Posts 2857 | Profile # |
Meh, despite his past i am actually happy Vino won the Olympics. Yeh he made a mistake (like 50% of pro cyclists, and thats low guess because others just not been caught yet), but he returned great and is real sportsman.
I'm aware of accusations of match fixing before at the Liege - bastogne - liege and this did look kinda of odd. However i doubt someone would slip a chance of winning olympic gold to someone he doesn't know. At least 12 years ago he passed it to Ullrich because of commercial reasons (same team, that actually pays his salary).
Wish all the courses didnt allow in-ears, much more competitive this way.
ps. hope cancellara is fine |
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| alderamin July 29 2012 03:27. Posts 80 | Profile # |
Maybe that's because I live in a cycling country and you don't.
Btw you didn't watch and you ever watch cycling otherwise you know there's two of them.
Also, give me one reason why Vino isn't stilll blood doping? The only reason he got caught when he did is because he and some teammate switched around their bags giving a autologous transfusion by accident. The other guy just didn't get tested.
Btw it was an insult. You call me a drug user.Last edit: 2012-07-29 03:28:39 |
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| Mithriel Netherlands. July 29 2012 03:32. Posts 2857 | Profile # |
On July 29 2012 03:27 alderamin wrote:
Maybe that's because I live in a cycling country and you don't.
Btw you didn't watch and you ever watch cycling otherwise you know there's two of them.
Also, give me one reason why Vino isn't stilll blood doping? The only reason he got caught when he did is because he and some teammate switched around their bags giving a autologous transfusion by accident. The other guy just didn't get tested.
Btw it was an insult. You call me a drug user.
One reason he isn't still using doping? I'm quite sure the already caught guys get tested even more than normal riders (who get tested a fuckton). Also all the winners will be tested automatically, so if he comes out clean i'll just assume he did at least the olympics on his own strenght.
Do i dare say he didnt use any enhancing drugs this year? No i dont, but then again i wouldnt trust 99.9 of the riders in the scene.
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| Benjef United Kingdom. July 29 2012 03:46. Posts 5544 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm still pissed at the rest of the Pelaton =/. Only the GB team really seeming to do anything, makes sense I guess so stop the giant sprint but just makes it a lot less entertaining ><. |
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| Mithriel Netherlands. July 29 2012 03:52. Posts 2857 | Profile # |
On July 29 2012 03:46 Benjef wrote:
I'm still pissed at the rest of the Pelaton =/. Only the GB team really seeming to do anything, makes sense I guess so stop the giant sprint but just makes it a lot less entertaining ><.
Well, noone wanted to go to a finish with Cavendish.... that would've been a sure lose (cavendish demonstrated that in Paris). Though yeh i agree with you i dont understand why other teams wouldnt help a bit earlier, because that would make a difference between going for gold (and potentially getting silver/bronze) or sprinting for 25th spot.. |
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| KobraKay Portugal. July 29 2012 03:59. Posts 2072 | Profile # |
On July 29 2012 03:27 alderamin wrote:
Maybe that's because I live in a cycling country and you don't.
Btw you didn't watch and you ever watch cycling otherwise you know there's two of them.
Also, give me one reason why Vino isn't stilll blood doping? The only reason he got caught when he did is because he and some teammate switched around their bags giving a autologous transfusion by accident. The other guy just didn't get tested.
Btw it was an insult. You call me a drug user.
lol dear god. What country do you live in? And btw the country itself means nothing, the people who follow and live the sport that provide the knowledge are the ones that matter. We have more than a few of those around here in case you didnt know.
You still have not provided any evidence of your things but you ask me to give reasons why Vino is inocent?...arent people inocent until proven guilty? He is not even being acused by anyone besides you so there is no actual need to defend himself, neither do I need/want to defend him. You're the one making accusations, Im the one questioning where are those coming from. Just that. Its simple. Uran was really naive (and had some bad luck because he looked at the wrong side on the wrong moment) and Vino won the sprint. You came here and said the doper won and it was fix'd. I said that did not make sense and asked where was the fixing..then you made new accusations and statements regarding past events.
There are more than two sanchez in the world but I figured you were talking about one of these 2....LLS is riding for Spain so it could not be him...samuel sanchez is injured and is not there hence why I asked. Which one are you talking about now?
I apologize, it is a common expression but if you were actually ofended by it I apologizeLast edit: 2012-07-29 04:15:06 |
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| Benjef United Kingdom. July 29 2012 04:03. Posts 5544 | Profile Blog # |
On July 29 2012 03:52 Mithriel wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 03:46 Benjef wrote:
I'm still pissed at the rest of the Pelaton =/. Only the GB team really seeming to do anything, makes sense I guess so stop the giant sprint but just makes it a lot less entertaining ><.
Well, noone wanted to go to a finish with Cavendish.... that would've been a sure lose (cavendish demonstrated that in Paris). Though yeh i agree with you i dont understand why other teams wouldnt help a bit earlier, because that would make a difference between going for gold (and potentially getting silver/bronze) or sprinting for 25th spot..
Yeh I agree with you, like sure keep him back that far but what use is that for you. They may as well have not raced. |
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