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 schimmetje   Netherlands. July 28 2012 22:40. Posts 1045
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Didn't see this over here yet and feel it's something certain people in the SC2 community would do well to consider.

And, conversely, if a woman in a Batman shirt ever speaks to you at a convention without having first established her credentials, the correct response is immediate suspicion. After all, they couldn’t be attracted to you, or just want a conversation. Chances are, they are after your attention.

If this is making your skin crawl, that’s sort of the point. It’s a pretty awful way to feel about one’s own culture, before we even get into how it is likely to corrode one’s feelings towards women.


(..)

Calls to mark women with a scarlet “F” in the name of keeping the congregation pure may have a ready audience. It heartens not just those fighting a doomed battle to keep geek and gamer culture in a comfortable oubliette, but also the Jack Thompsons of this world. But it is not an audience one should cultivate, and it is probably not an audience, in the long term, one wants to have – as a media company or a producer of geek media.

It’s not a growth market.


Forbes

And before someone comes in "yeah but in case x".. no. You're missing the point and you're wrong.

~edit: changed the quote
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 Shock710   Australia. July 28 2012 22:42. Posts 2930
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what? wat? i'm confused about what ur point is...more detail???
edit: i get the title i just dont get what u typed
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 schimmetje   Netherlands. July 28 2012 22:46. Posts 1045
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On July 28 2012 22:42 Shock710 wrote:
what? wat? i'm confused about what ur point is...more detail???


We are very good at calling out women who "have no place here". It's not something exclusive to SC2, but it's definitely happened here before, NASL finals coming to mind. I think it's good for those people to read the linked article and get some perspective.

Plus we have a My Little Pony thread. We can have this In retrospect it'd probably have been easier to understand if I titled it "Being dicks is killing ESPORTS" but that's feeling a little overdone.
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 Aerisky   United States. July 28 2012 22:47. Posts 9260
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Everything in italics is copy-pasted from the article cited. But in that context and with nothing to encourage discussion...this OP confuses/irks me as well :/
"It has always been in my observation of human nature, that a man who has any good reason to believe in himself never flourishes himself before the faces of other people in order that they may believe in him."
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 FeUerFlieGe   United States. July 28 2012 22:47. Posts 1055
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Sounds like this has to do with both babes and such, although Mr. OP you should make it bit clearer.
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 OrchidThief   Denmark. July 28 2012 22:47. Posts 1658
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I don't think he was criticising the topic as much as the lack of content in the OP.
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 EtherealDeath   United States. July 28 2012 22:48. Posts 8158
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Well, I read the thing and I don't really get what the point of the article is. Seemed somewhat of a semi connected article with no direct aim?
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 Aterons_toss   Romania. July 28 2012 22:48. Posts 1231
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On July 28 2012 22:42 Shock710 wrote:
what? wat? i'm confused about what ur point is...more detail???


I would like to echo this guy thoughts
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 Spec   Taiwan. July 28 2012 22:49. Posts 751
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I like how he describes the booth girls as "6 of 9".
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 Aerisky   United States. July 28 2012 22:50. Posts 9260
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After reading some of the article...I think the point (of the article at least) is basically this: people care too much about girls pretending to be geeks, in a nutshell, and that the "fake" geek girls are in fact not necessarily trying to pretend to be geeky.

I still think the OP has a crazy lack of content...not to mention actually discourages discussion
"It has always been in my observation of human nature, that a man who has any good reason to believe in himself never flourishes himself before the faces of other people in order that they may believe in him."
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 Shivvy   Canada. July 28 2012 22:52. Posts 37
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Most confusing OP ever lol
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 Shock710   Australia. July 28 2012 22:53. Posts 2930
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On July 28 2012 22:40 schimmetje wrote:
Didn't see this over here yet and feel it's something certain people in the SC2 community would do well to consider.

[i]And, conversely, if a woman in a Batman shirt ever speaks to you at a convention without having first established her credentials, the correct response is immediate suspicion. After all, they couldn’t be attracted to you, or just want a conversation. Chances are, they are after your attention.


1st: so girls cant even be at gamer conventions??? and if they are they are "suspicious" why cant they just like games and not have an outside motive
2: .....did that article just call all gamer guys ugly...
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 Nothingtosay   United States. July 28 2012 22:55. Posts 851
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Can you provide context for the quotes. Don't link the middle of an article, yes we can deduce the general topic of the article but we shouldn't have to make a clear and easy thread.
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 CFDragon   United States. July 28 2012 22:55. Posts 300
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The article is in response to someone writing about "fake" girls posing as geeks, by defending girls who really are geeks...?
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 bonifaceviii   Canada. July 28 2012 22:58. Posts 2841
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The article is long, meandering and doesn't really have a central point other than overarching suspicion of geek girls is self-defeating for the community.

Nothing we don't already know.
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 PlaGuE_R   France. July 28 2012 22:58. Posts 1145
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what is this. i don't even...

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  thrawn2112   United States. July 28 2012 22:58. Posts 3599Profile Blog # 
what

i dont even know which side you're on so i can get mad and argue against it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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 solidbebe   Netherlands. July 28 2012 23:00. Posts 3239
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Huh, are you agreeing or disagreeing with the article? I don't get it at all.
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 Thenerf   United States. July 28 2012 23:03. Posts 254
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Attractive women lying and taking advantage of men is par for the course in every part of every society.

When a women takes advantage of you, you can do two things: 1) Take advantage of her while she is taking advantage of you. or 2) Tell her to fuck off.
Every atom in your body was forged in a star. Quit being a pussy.
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 JKM   Denmark. July 28 2012 23:04. Posts 367
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Unfocused OP and unfocused article.

Hopefully you can rephrase it, because otherwise the discussion will just become a vent about how some girls exploit geek markets or how "all" girls are only attention grabbing whores and so on.
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