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[h] Zerg vs zerg woes the uncomfortable pressure

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 sniklfritz   Canada. July 29 2012 02:13. Posts 3
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This is my first post so here it goes here is a replay http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=268244#/replay_overview

This is how almost all my ZvZ games go when they pressure me early, im not sure if my opening is bad i was going hatch first for a while but everyone is like 11/12 pooling and and streaming lings and i lose my expo so i started going pool first.

But basically what im looking for is what am i doing wrong like big picture, I feel i play well but ZvZ confuses and scares me when i lose map control i feel crappy and make mistakes and wont expand i feel that could have been the problem.

I know some things like spreading creep would have been good but i dont think it was the deciding factor, more spines i don't feel would have helped. I think i lost to many units and made to many units early on then did grab a 3rd early enough. But how do i secure it?

Open to all tips and help.

Anyways thank you in advanced if there are any problems with my thread let me know so i can improve on my future posts.
I can and will accidently it
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  Xitac   Germany. July 29 2012 02:43. Posts 25Profile # 
u were supply blocked at 18 plus u did not build zerglings although u saw the enemy zerglings incoming

then your natural died from this point on the game was over

then u teched on one base? wtf

thats the point were i stopped watching



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 psychotics   United States. July 29 2012 02:59. Posts 164
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main problem i see in this game is macro like xitac said u were supply blocked didnt make lings. (personally dont like/use the opener u do cause i dont like it but thats personal preference) but if u want to learn zvz i would learn gas first builds first getting faster speed is really really helpful in scouting ur opponent and gives u initial map control. this will help ease that feeling of beign scared. and help deal with these mass ling bust cause u can get banes faster with faster gas

a general overview of zvz for you just to help out:
spread overlords around the map to spot expos and see attacks coming. personally i like being aggresive with roaches + lings and banes to deny/delay the third base but until then its best to just sit and play defensive and keep ur upgrades going you either take a fast thrid or pressure and deny ur opponents while u take yours.

ZvZ is basically a mechanics fight. the player with better injects and better drone timings will usually come out ahead so thats really what u need to focus on. injects upgrades drones, u dont need to be out on the map all game like in other matchups a handful of lings runing around is enough just to poke and see if hes droning or making army.
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 crbox   Canada. July 29 2012 03:32. Posts 872
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I don't feel like watching the whole thing, but just a quick advice, try doing a standard safe build. 15 pool, drone, 15 hatch, overlord (u can build another drone but thats stylistic) drone, extractor. Gets u fast speed, doesnt die to 6pool, etc. If the guy hatches first, he just has a small advantage
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