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[Patch 1.0.0.144: Diana] General Discussion - Page 21

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 Requizen   United States. August 03 2012 06:23. Posts 7268
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On August 03 2012 06:21 MooMooMugi wrote:
Wtf hidden accept/decline games update? Do you get a time penalty like for dodging or not?

Time penalty for dodging champ select, no penalty for declining/being afk for queue pop.
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 epoc   Finland. August 03 2012 06:30. Posts 841
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On August 03 2012 06:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Giving irelia any buff would be op'd. So glad you don't work for riot..


No bruiser is op. And will pretty much never be unless riot changes something. Ad carrys are "op" though imo they don't need any changing. Just like dota carrys are fine endgame. Same idea in lol but lol carrys aren't as powerful.
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 AwayFromLife   United States. August 03 2012 06:32. Posts 254
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On August 03 2012 06:30 epoc wrote:

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No bruiser is op. And will pretty much never be unless riot changes something. Ad carrys are "op" though imo they don't need any changing. Just like dota carrys are fine endgame. Same idea in lol but lol carrys aren't as powerful.

So do you think or read when you type, or do you just lick your keyboard until it posts?

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 Sufficiency   Canada. August 03 2012 06:37. Posts 7263
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On August 03 2012 06:14 kongoline wrote:
how is lux mid? i cant decide between anivia and her, anivia seems better but less fun and i already got bored of her from watching streamsl,. on paper lux seems awsome she has huge range, cc, good wave clearing only thing i dont like are relative high cooldowns, any opinions?


Lux is low/mid-tier as a mid champion. Her problem is that she is required to land a Q in order to chain a combo (i.e. burst), but landing a Q can be difficult - especially against certain opponent. Consequently she has many "hard" counters, one of them in particular is Ahri.

Setting her counters aside, she is a reasonably good pick. Her wave clear is decent, her range is good, her shield is pretty OP, and she roams really well with her laser.



On August 03 2012 06:32 AwayFromLife wrote:

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So do you think or read when you type, or do you just lick your keyboard until it posts?

Last edit: 2012-08-03 06:37:48
Interesting, isn't it?
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 epoc   Finland. August 03 2012 06:37. Posts 841
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On August 03 2012 06:32 AwayFromLife wrote:

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So do you think or read when you type, or do you just lick your keyboard until it posts?


Doesn't seem like that I lick my keyboard. Might wanna try making sense? Same thing with volibear. His q and e should scale somehow.
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 Perplex   United States. August 03 2012 06:45. Posts 872
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On August 03 2012 06:37 Sufficiency wrote:

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Lux is low/mid-tier as a mid champion. Her problem is that she is required to land a Q in order to chain a combo (i.e. burst), but landing a Q can be difficult - especially against certain opponent. Consequently she has many "hard" counters, one of them in particular is Ahri.

Setting her counters aside, she is a reasonably good pick. Her wave clear is decent, her range is good, her shield is pretty OP, and she roams really well with her laser.



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Sort of this. Moreover, she just hits a wall faster than most AP carries do. It's no secret that AP carries in general aren't as threatening late game, but Lux reaches this point much faster than most other AP's do. There are plenty of other mid laners who require a skillshot to land in order to combo, but it doesn't limit them that badly (and I don't think it hurts lux too bad either). The comment about having lots of counters is certainly correct though. She is rough to lane against most of the popular mids
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 AwayFromLife   United States. August 03 2012 06:49. Posts 254
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On August 03 2012 06:37 epoc wrote:

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Doesn't seem like that I lick my keyboard. Might wanna try making sense? Same thing with volibear. His q and e should scale somehow.

So you're just complaining because the champs you like to play can't 2 shot everything?

No, utility spells do not need super hard scaling. Voli already has enough damage between his boosted auto attacks and bite, Irelia with TF already nearly instagibs sqishies and can't die. If you're having trouble using them, that sucks, but it's not the champ's fault. Probably PEBKAC.
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 FlaShFTW   United States. August 03 2012 06:56. Posts 4957
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YAY chogath buff!! :D
Never Surrender. Never GG. Always Fighting. BW4LYF. Woo Jung Ho Never Forget.
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 epoc   Finland. August 03 2012 06:58. Posts 841
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On August 03 2012 06:49 AwayFromLife wrote:

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So you're just complaining because the champs you like to play can't 2 shot everything?

No, utility spells do not need super hard scaling. Voli already has enough damage between his boosted auto attacks and bite, Irelia with TF already nearly instagibs sqishies and can't die. If you're having trouble using them, that sucks, but it's not the champ's fault. Probably PEBKAC.


Yeah I'm complaining because I wanna instagib squishies. and 45 more dmg with tf pre mitigation is not "super scaling"
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 AsnSensation   Germany. August 03 2012 06:59. Posts 6252
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Diana looks promising

( obligatory post for this thread to appear in my "subscribed" threads and have nothing content worthy atm to provide sorry^^)
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 Requizen   United States. August 03 2012 07:00. Posts 7268
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On August 03 2012 06:59 AsnSensation wrote:
Diana looks promising

( obligatory post for this thread to appear in my "subscribed" threads and have nothing content worthy atm to provide sorry^^)


For future reference, you can click the "subscribe" button above the post field to subscribe to a thread :D
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 zulu_nation8   China. August 03 2012 07:02. Posts 18688
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i always thought you're supposed to max E over Q as kassadin but i've seen a lot who max Q, is it lane dependent?
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 AwayFromLife   United States. August 03 2012 07:02. Posts 254
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On August 03 2012 06:58 epoc wrote:

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Yeah I'm complaining because I wanna instagib squishies. and 45 more dmg with tf pre mitigation is not "super scaling"

So what the hell is your issue then? .5 scaling is more than 0, are you honestly arguing that you neeeeeed 45 more damage?

Irelia is already super viable, who gives a shit how she scales with a stat she doesn't even build.
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 Sufficiency   Canada. August 03 2012 07:02. Posts 7263
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On August 03 2012 06:45 Perplex wrote:

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Sort of this. Moreover, she just hits a wall faster than most AP carries do. It's no secret that AP carries in general aren't as threatening late game, but Lux reaches this point much faster than most other AP's do. There are plenty of other mid laners who require a skillshot to land in order to combo, but it doesn't limit them that badly (and I don't think it hurts lux too bad either). The comment about having lots of counters is certainly correct though. She is rough to lane against most of the popular mids


I actually think her late game isn't too bad. Lux's late game is so safe that she will never be killed - because her Q and E abilities both contain CC and all of her abilities have very long range. Sure, she won't burst as hard as Veigar, but she will also survive the teamfight with ease. Basically she is pretty consistent in a teamfight. Also, if you ask me, being able to chunk out about half of the HP from the enemy AD carry from a very safe distance (not to mention 24 seconds cooldown) is pretty good.

There are some good points going for Lux compared to other AP carries in particular.

1. She peels pretty well and can protect her AD carry with her shield (which is actually pretty broken with high AP and maximized CDR... assuming you are a mind reader and hit your AD carry).

2. Her wave clear with her E/R is fantastic in late game and she can stall pushes forever (in late game you can wave clear with your R, which has a 24 seconds cooldown with max CDR... but minion waves come every 30 seconds. So in theory you can stall a lane indefinitely from a HUGE distance.

3. Lux's roam is pretty good. Good CC, good range, sniping the bottom lane from the dragon pit, etc.
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Interesting, isn't it?
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 Craton   United States. August 03 2012 07:04. Posts 10149
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lol

Yeah man, release Xin was never op. Jax was never OP multiple times. Shen was never OP. GP10 stacking Jarvan was never OP. Lee Sin was never OP.

Bruisers that have received massive nerfs? Nah, never OP.
AD carries that have received minor nerfs or even buffs? Nah, hugely OP.

I appreciate your wildly inaccurate history of bruisers and misuse of the term OP, though.
Last edit: 2012-08-03 07:05:01
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 epoc   Finland. August 03 2012 07:04. Posts 841
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On August 03 2012 07:02 AwayFromLife wrote:

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So what the hell is your issue then? .5 scaling is more than 0, are you honestly arguing that you neeeeeed 45 more damage?


Irelia is already super viable, who gives a shit how she scales with a stat she doesn't even build.


The issue is that imo there needs to be some scaling. 45 is surely some damage. I would be happy with 1.0 scaling since 2.0 is a bit weird if the spell isn't nunu ultimate
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 Mogwai   United States. August 03 2012 07:04. Posts 8012
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On August 03 2012 07:02 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i always thought you're supposed to max E over Q as kassadin but i've seen a lot who max Q, is it lane dependent?

everyone maxes Q. maxing E is super situational for when your opponent always charges it up for you and you need to be able to quickly shove the lane back at them (morde I guess?)
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 Requizen   United States. August 03 2012 07:05. Posts 7268
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On August 03 2012 07:04 Craton wrote:
lol

Yeah man, release Xin was never op. Jax was never OP multiple times. Shen was never OP. GP10 stacking Jarvan was never OP. Lee Sin was never OP.

Bruisers that have received massive nerfs? Nah, never OP.
AD carries that have received minor nerfs or even buffs? Nah, hugely OP.

Lee Sin actually sucks, no one ever play him ever ever again.
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 Craton   United States. August 03 2012 07:05. Posts 10149
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I dunno if I've ever seen a Kass max E first in a real game.
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 Craton   United States. August 03 2012 07:06. Posts 10149
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On August 03 2012 07:00 Requizen wrote:

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For future reference, you can click the "subscribe" button above the post field to subscribe to a thread :D

Or below.

And you should turn off auto-subscribe because it just spams your list with threads you don't actually want to follow.
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