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Valve reports better fps on Linux than Windows

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 VIB   Brazil. August 03 2012 01:02. Posts 3567
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I don't know if you guys are following the latest news on windows 8 gaming. Valve and others (Rob Pardo from Blizzard included) are pretty pissed off with windows 8, because of the app store which will take a cut of game prices. So they're talking about migrating to linux, Valve already announced Steam will go to linux. Now they're reporting they're testing the Source Engine on Linux. And what surprised many people is that they're saying the game runs better on linux because OpenGL is faster than microsoft's directx.

http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/

How serious is this going to keep hapening? Are they really gonna migrate to linux? If AAA titles start releasing on both, and representing faster fps on linux. Would you change to linux just to play it?

edit: For those not following the news, here's the interview with Gabe Newell that started all this. When he said Valve wants to support linux because "windows 8 is a catastrophe for the PC industry". Blizzard's Rob Pardo later agreed with him:

- http://allthingsd.com/20120725/valves-gabe-newell-on-the-future-of-games-wearable-computers-windows-8-and-more/
Last edit: 2012-08-03 06:29:36
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 Psychobabas   United Kingdom. August 03 2012 01:07. Posts 1957
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Personally I have no experience on linux at all.

For me its all about compatibility. If all my hardware and software plays fine on Linux (or better as this article says) then Linux is a strong possibility for me.
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 Black[CAT]   Malaysia. August 03 2012 01:10. Posts 2537
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After having problems with Wine on my Ubuntu, I'm so glad about this After all, I do most my coding work on Ubuntu and its awesome.
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 Morthy   Netherlands. August 03 2012 01:22. Posts 63
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Only reason to have windows, is because most games are compatible with it. With indie devs and now blizz and valve switching. Linux becomes more and more viable.

In the end I don't really care which operating system I use. I will adapt to it. So if I can play my games on Linux I would happily switch.
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  IntoTheWow   is awesome. August 03 2012 01:25. Posts 31040Profile Blog # 
The moment games switch to Linux, I'm switching as well.
 
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 c0ldfusion   United States. August 03 2012 01:28. Posts 2301
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Omg, if this happens I'll be running Linux.
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 noobcakes   United States. August 03 2012 01:30. Posts 476
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TO LINUX!
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 PassiveAce   United States. August 03 2012 01:32. Posts 4331
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I would totally switch if valve starts porting their games, all it would do is save me money + headaches.
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 Erasme   France. August 03 2012 01:33. Posts 4060
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dualboot ftw
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 jpak   United States. August 03 2012 01:39. Posts 3646
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It would give me a good reason to learn linux.
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 nihoh   Australia. August 03 2012 01:50. Posts 937
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Sometimes I think Microsoft try too hard in their products they miss the point. Look at Vista ffs. Now they're coming out with this Apple-inspired bullshit platform, and us gamers once again get left in the dust. The more similar to XP, the better.
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 IveReturned   Turkey. August 03 2012 01:51. Posts 241
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Wow, interesting. Linux might be the Hardcore PC gamer OS, hopefully we mght get rid of CoD children on our future games, you know, their parents will keep using Windows.
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 Medrea   August 03 2012 02:08. Posts 9999
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OpenGL is shit honestly. But even if you have a different opinion than me thats fine.

Its fine because.... Source Engine. Are you fucking kidding me? Who cares about that archaic crap anymore. Time to move on folks.
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 Knighthawkbro   United States. August 03 2012 02:18. Posts 105
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The day I will switch is when Nvidia creates their own drivers for linux instead of using the generic open source drivers you can find.
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 Diizzy   United States. August 03 2012 02:21. Posts 742
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ok ima switching too. windows get a pay cut really?
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 IveReturned   Turkey. August 03 2012 02:22. Posts 241
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On August 03 2012 02:08 Medrea wrote:
OpenGL is shit honestly. But even if you have a different opinion than me thats fine.

Its fine because.... Source Engine. Are you fucking kidding me? Who cares about that archaic crap anymore. Time to move on folks.



I am sure they are making a new engine.This is a subtle message.
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 InRaged   August 03 2012 02:24. Posts 1047
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On August 03 2012 02:18 Knighthawkbro wrote:
The day I will switch is when Nvidia creates their own drivers for linux instead of using the generic open source drivers you can find.

Nvidia provides their proprietary driver for years now.
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 heishe   Germany. August 03 2012 02:26. Posts 2127
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On August 03 2012 02:08 Medrea wrote:
OpenGL is shit honestly. But even if you have a different opinion than me thats fine.



For what reason? From a developers point of view, OpenGL has some advantages over Direct3D, and almost no downsides. From a user point of view, it absolutely doesn't matter. The FPS differences that they showed will be like 1/10th of one FPS for an application that targets 60fps.

edit: I'm not going to explain everything here. It's explained already here, for example: http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-you-should-use-OpenGL-and-not-DirectX
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 Wortie   Netherlands. August 03 2012 02:26. Posts 210
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On August 03 2012 02:08 Medrea wrote:
OpenGL is shit honestly. But even if you have a different opinion than me thats fine.

Its fine because.... Source Engine. Are you fucking kidding me? Who cares about that archaic crap anymore. Time to move on folks.


Because source engine from 2004 is exactly the same as the one valve games use now.

Actually, the source engine gets constantly improved, it's buildup modular, so different parts can be added on and removed.
Also gameplay > graphics. I don't really care about the graphics honestly, source engine always had a nice feel to it. So fuck off with your archaic crap. Also I hope I don't have to remind you that there are a lot of BW fans out here. Are they playing and watching archaic crap too? I thought not.


Pretty cool they brought it to linux imo. From what I've hear the opinions on Windows 8 are quite controversial. Some people think it's shit, other people think it's amazing.
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 MisterD   Germany. August 03 2012 02:28. Posts 1338
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valve certainly won't drop support for windows just out of the clouds because microsoft gets a cut, they might earn a little less money that way but they still earn money so they'll stay for now. Maybe the gaming market *might* slowly move away, but certainly not in a single big "omg valve switched windows gaming is dead" bang.

That being said, more options for customers is always good. and if games on linux are maybe even sold cheaper than on win8 because of less third party fees, all the better. I just hope they realize that linux houses a whole bunch of geeks who will probably figure out easy ways to get around steam drm like offline mode not working or shit like that faster than when they stay on windows. But that again can only be good for customers, which is what we should care about. This in turn might however mean that less AAA titles will come out on steam, because ubisoft&co selling linux-compatible copies is certainly not going to happen. Although one might argue that ubisoft console ports are horribad anyways, so who cares.

Yay for valve on this one. Took long enough to pick up linux.
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