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| dRaW Canada. August 06 2012 11:32. Posts 3517 | Profile Blog # |
wow really grats sas 
michael you really need to step it up or we send you back to kitchen as dish washer. |
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| hacklebeast United States. August 06 2012 13:03. Posts 4635 | Profile Blog # | |
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| endy China. August 06 2012 13:26. Posts 6127 | Profile Blog # |
What's SJ exactly ? Based on the members I can guess it's a new name of Nb. but when and why did that occur ? Thanks |
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| Game August 06 2012 13:47. Posts 3026 | Profile Blog # |
On August 06 2012 13:26 endy wrote: What's SJ exactly ? Based on the members I can guess it's a new name of Nb. but when and why did that occur ? Thanks
They lost their old sponsor, got a new one. |
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| Mango Belgium. August 06 2012 20:34. Posts 498 | Profile # | |
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| ninazerg United States. August 07 2012 04:53. Posts 1852 | Profile Blog # |
If Eagle was a no-show, shouldn't the LRM vs Eagle match be "no contest"? It always seems a bit disingenuous to claim a win when no match took place. I can see where a walk-over would make sense in a competition sense where you have points to earn, but for a showmatch, where points are non-applicable, I would recommend a "no contest".
Additionally, I strongly would recommend not adding walkovers to players' win ratios, because it skews the numbers heavily. For example, would be the point of saying "I won 100% of my games" if they were all walkovers? Taking a walkover should, in my opinion, be heavily discouraged in competitive play. |
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| Game August 07 2012 06:24. Posts 3026 | Profile Blog # |
On August 07 2012 04:53 ninazerg wrote: If Eagle was a no-show, shouldn't the LRM vs Eagle match be "no contest"? It always seems a bit disingenuous to claim a win when no match took place. I can see where a walk-over would make sense in a competition sense where you have points to earn, but for a showmatch, where points are non-applicable, I would recommend a "no contest".
Additionally, I strongly would recommend not adding walkovers to players' win ratios, because it skews the numbers heavily. For example, would be the point of saying "I won 100% of my games" if they were all walkovers? Taking a walkover should, in my opinion, be heavily discouraged in competitive play.
W.O is just a broad term that is understood by the masses, as it's been the norm forever. The same way when you ask someone for a game you say "game?" rather than "Do you want to play?". This is also disingenuous, but accomplishes the goal of breaking any language barriers. How can you add a walkover to a players win ratio? It's actually almost impossible to attribute a win to a player in this league, because W.O's are only given in special circumstances where both players are there, and the team leader sent them both in knowing they could both play. W.O's are discouraged, I'm not sure where you'd form an opinion that they were common practice to achieve. |
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| ninazerg United States. August 07 2012 06:37. Posts 1852 | Profile Blog # |
On August 07 2012 06:24 Game wrote: Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:53 ninazerg wrote: If Eagle was a no-show, shouldn't the LRM vs Eagle match be "no contest"? It always seems a bit disingenuous to claim a win when no match took place. I can see where a walk-over would make sense in a competition sense where you have points to earn, but for a showmatch, where points are non-applicable, I would recommend a "no contest".
Additionally, I strongly would recommend not adding walkovers to players' win ratios, because it skews the numbers heavily. For example, would be the point of saying "I won 100% of my games" if they were all walkovers? Taking a walkover should, in my opinion, be heavily discouraged in competitive play.
W.O is just a broad term that is understood by the masses, as it's been the norm forever. The same way when you ask someone for a game you say "game?" rather than "Do you want to play?". This is also disingenuous, but accomplishes the goal of breaking any language barriers. How can you add a walkover to a players win ratio? It's actually almost impossible to attribute a win to a player in this league, because W.O's are only given in special circumstances where both players are there, and the team leader sent them both in knowing they could both play. W.O's are discouraged, I'm not sure where you'd form an opinion that they were common practice to achieve.
I see your point, but since Teamliquid.net's official language is English, and most of the people posting have fairly decent comprehension skills, I just thought it would help to clarify terms. As far as the issue of my opinion of walkovers, when money is on the line, I think it can be tempting to team leaders to take a walkover rather than issue a postponement - for example, I remember a clan league where this one clan took mostly walkovers to win their division, and declared themselves to be "the best". Just speaking from what I've seen personally, I'd hate to see that here. As a spectator, I would love to see every team play every other team.Last edit: 2012-08-07 06:38:54 |
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| Eywa- Canada. August 07 2012 11:31. Posts 3013 | Profile Blog # |
| It was a show match, nothing to do with the league itself. The player somehow decided it was okay to not show up after acknowledging a reminder the day before. Call it a Walk Over, call it a no-show, call it whatever, it doesn't count toward the league anyway. |
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| TheShimmy United States. August 07 2012 13:35. Posts 1723 | Profile # |
| Gogo Michael. Grabbing the first all-kill |
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| Gairbear United States. August 16 2012 02:38. Posts 80 | Profile Blog # |
| Michael Hwaiting! Way to find yourself out of a few disadvantageous builds and prove to us why you are the cheese king with some very creative builds. |
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