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| eviltomahawk United States. August 05 2012 14:12. Posts 8879 | Profile Blog # |
It seems that the video documentaries released earlier this week from CNN are now actually linked with a full article, which is part of a series of articles called "Gaming Reality." The SC2 article is even featured on the front page of CNN, which is neat.
In South Korea: Skill or Addiction?
In the world's most-wired country, Internet gaming breeds two extremes: elite "athletes" who earn fame and six figures, and addicts who literally play until they die.
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2012/08/tech/gaming.series/korea.html?hpt=hp_c1 |
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| Kontys Finland. August 05 2012 14:14. Posts 496 | Profile # |
Skill or Addiction?
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Fucking haters.
EDIT: Oh, ok. Just my initial reaction to the title.
This is apparently about gaming addiction. I think they kind of misunderstood what Tasteless was saying about competitivity. Boss part Mr Tasteless, you are handsome.
EDIT2: Oh there was a text part. Well, fuck you CNN. Not cool.
EDIT3: CNN IS RUINING ESPORTS. Fact, but this does not need to go viral.Last edit: 2012-08-05 16:01:31 |
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| imMUTAble787 United States. August 05 2012 14:17. Posts 575 | Profile # |
They lost me when they were comparing MKP to people addicted to Maple Story.
Lol wtf?
Not like I was expecting anything from any sort of major media outlet to begin with, though. |
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| Zzoram Canada. August 05 2012 14:18. Posts 6758 | Profile # |
| Where are the articles about American Football addiction and how 4 players die each year from football on average, never mind the thousands of concussions that can lead to permanent brain damage? |
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| Wegandi United States. August 05 2012 14:19. Posts 904 | Profile # |
Good ol' CNN paternalism. What would we do without you! Pests, the lot of them, like a billion mosquitoes all poking and biting you, when all you want to do is be left alone and exercise your own damn rights. Who the fuck cares if someone plays a lot of games? It's their goddamn right. Similarly who the hell cares if someone does a bunch of drugs, it's their damn right.
Tired of the corporate-Statist media and all its appendages telling us what 'acceptable' behavior is. Other than their faux-outrage and mission-creep, it would be an ok article. |
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| Medrea August 05 2012 14:19. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
That was a touching story about MKP, and I hear this often from progamers parents.
"I didn't realize how good he was"
If you had bothered listening to him talk, or were open minded enough to ask, he would have told you how good he was so much you would ask him to shut up just for peace and quiet. Nope. Judge or Lawyer go pick one.
MKP is lucky his parents eventually saw the light.
eSports is the future, lets see who gets early adoption benefits. |
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| justinpal United States. August 05 2012 14:19. Posts 3233 | Profile # |
I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
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| Noumena United States. August 05 2012 14:20. Posts 80 | Profile # |
God this article is awful. They keep switching between "Starcraft" and "Starcraft 2" so I never know what game they're talking about, and have extremely off dates. I'm pretty sure MKP wasn't practicing SC2 in 2008 and won his first tournament in April 2009.
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| Wegandi United States. August 05 2012 14:21. Posts 904 | Profile # |
On August 05 2012 14:18 Zzoram wrote:
Where are the articles about American Football addiction and how 4 players die each year from football on average, never mind the thousands of concussions that can lead to permanent brain damage?
It's only an addiction when they disagree with your personal behavior. If you play a physical sport like say, football, or baseball for 5+ hours everyday, you're lauded. If you study math or science for 10+ hours a day, you're lauded. God forbid, you were a unique individual with their own likes and desires instead of some tabula rasa for them to mold to their own ends. Never ceases, does it? |
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| Itsmedudeman United States. August 05 2012 14:22. Posts 8488 | Profile Blog # |
On August 05 2012 14:19 justinpal wrote:I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
Show nested quote +The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
Or he's just dumbing it down for his audience like any intelligent writer who knows what the hell they're doing would? Yeah, he sent marines with 1/1 upgrades for a timing attack and marine split his marines on creep sounds really good to an audience. |
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| justinpal United States. August 05 2012 14:25. Posts 3233 | Profile # |
On August 05 2012 14:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 14:19 justinpal wrote:I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
Or he's just dumbing it down for his audience like any intelligent writer who knows what the hell they're doing would? Yeah, he sent marines with 1/1 upgrades for a timing attack and marine split his marines on creep sounds really good to an audience.
I was more referring to the article and the second part of the quote, I guess my comment wasn't clear. But, the part where they obsess over the fact that he types go or 1a2a3a4a as an indication of his addiction. I'm pretty certain there are a large number of players that do just that. |
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| Itsmedudeman United States. August 05 2012 14:25. Posts 8488 | Profile Blog # |
On August 05 2012 14:21 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 14:18 Zzoram wrote:
Where are the articles about American Football addiction and how 4 players die each year from football on average, never mind the thousands of concussions that can lead to permanent brain damage?
It's only an addiction when they disagree with your personal behavior. If you play a physical sport like say, football, or baseball for 5+ hours everyday, you're lauded. If you study math or science for 10+ hours a day, you're lauded. God forbid, you were a unique individual with their own likes and desires instead of some tabula rasa for them to mold to their own ends. Never ceases, does it?
? Dumb comparison. Most people can't play physical sports as long for as long as someone can play a video game (and addicts can play all day), and someone who studies actually benefits from it? Wtf? Are we really comparing the productivity of studying math and science to that of playing a video game here? Let me know how that looks on a college application. TL is really out of touch it seems these days.. |
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 NeMeSiS3 Canada. August 05 2012 14:27. Posts 2969 | Profile Blog # |
Possibly the worst thing I've ever read, it felt like the writer was on another fucking planet, I'm going to go write a piece for CNN about athletic addition because apparently striving to improve on a difficult task can equate to playing MAPLE STORY? WHAT THE FUCK. Wait wait wait, I'd fall into the same trap of not knowing a single fucking thing about it.
There needs to really be a restructuring globally on what "news" should or should not be created, because this shit is made for the 40 year old house mom with no clue about the topic at hand, it's one thing to make a completely bias subjective article, its another to do so while not knowing anything in the process.
"facepalm"
On August 05 2012 14:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 14:19 justinpal wrote:I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
Or he's just dumbing it down for his audience like any intelligent writer who knows what the hell they're doing would? Yeah, he sent marines with 1/1 upgrades for a timing attack and marine split his marines on creep sounds really good to an audience.
"dumbing it down" is one thing, sensationalizing the dumbing process to try and force your reader to only agree with you is another, hell the article starts with "play until they die" ... I could start throwing statistics around about which "sport" has the highest death rates per year of minor players/gamers... I can promise you that video games would be at the rock bottom, seeing as what? 5-10 people have died from "gaming" to much...
ridiculous article, should have been presented by FOXLast edit: 2012-08-05 14:30:36 |
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| Wegandi United States. August 05 2012 14:28. Posts 904 | Profile # |
On August 05 2012 14:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 14:19 justinpal wrote:I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
Or he's just dumbing it down for his audience like any intelligent writer who knows what the hell they're doing would? Yeah, he sent marines with 1/1 upgrades for a timing attack and marine split his marines on creep sounds really good to an audience.
If anyone has ever taken a semi-competent journalism class, they would have never written such a piss poor article. He missed more than 50% of Aristotle's appeals. Instead of saying spitting out blue termites, he could have said, producing workers called probes. Everyone knows what a worker does, and in the process you've fulfilled mythos or knowledge and provided your reader with something new and pertinent. |
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| Itsmedudeman United States. August 05 2012 14:28. Posts 8488 | Profile Blog # |
On August 05 2012 14:25 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 14:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On August 05 2012 14:19 justinpal wrote:I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
Or he's just dumbing it down for his audience like any intelligent writer who knows what the hell they're doing would? Yeah, he sent marines with 1/1 upgrades for a timing attack and marine split his marines on creep sounds really good to an audience.
I was more referring to the article and the second part of the quote, I guess my comment wasn't clear. But, the part where they obsess over the fact that he types go or 1a2a3a4a as an indication of his addiction. I'm pretty certain there are a large number of players that do just that.
No, that's clearly not what the writer meant at all. "much like a pianist would when warming up." is the phrase they used. If anything they're highlighting MKP's career and achievements as something good and productive. |
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| Psychlone Canada. August 05 2012 14:29. Posts 90 | Profile # |
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| Wegandi United States. August 05 2012 14:33. Posts 904 | Profile # |
On August 05 2012 14:25 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 14:21 Wegandi wrote:
On August 05 2012 14:18 Zzoram wrote:
Where are the articles about American Football addiction and how 4 players die each year from football on average, never mind the thousands of concussions that can lead to permanent brain damage?
It's only an addiction when they disagree with your personal behavior. If you play a physical sport like say, football, or baseball for 5+ hours everyday, you're lauded. If you study math or science for 10+ hours a day, you're lauded. God forbid, you were a unique individual with their own likes and desires instead of some tabula rasa for them to mold to their own ends. Never ceases, does it?
? Dumb comparison. Most people can't play physical sports as long for as long as someone can play a video game (and addicts can play all day), and someone who studies actually benefits from it? Wtf? Are we really comparing the productivity of studying math and science to that of playing a video game here? Let me know how that looks on a college application. TL is really out of touch it seems these days..
No, no one is comparing the merits, benefits, or costs with one activity to another, merely the fact that their definition of addiction is subjective and almost always entails periphery activities in society, or in other words, things they don't like or understand. They then proclaim it dangerous, in some paternalistic fashion, and almost always it is for the purpose of legislating away some more of your liberties and rights.
Sorry, but I don't want to live in a society that bans fun, and instead pushes 'efficiency' or 'study study study'. I'm not a fucking robot and everyone is unique. We're not a borg to mold, to shape, to push an agenda on. If someone wants to play a game for 10+ hours a day good for them! Who the hell cares if 'society' or the Government would be better off with another scientist or some shit (it actually doesn't work that way, just ask any Asian country where the restriction of freedom has stifled creativity, entrepreneurship, etc. etc.).
Besides, I'm just tired of paternalism that is so rampant. From fucking seat belts, to helmets, to walking your dog on the beach, drinking a beer while taking a walk, etc. |
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| PlosionCornu Italy. August 05 2012 14:33. Posts 809 | Profile # |
| Sc2 is one of the less addictive games around in my opinion... |
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| Arghmyliver United States. August 05 2012 14:33. Posts 660 | Profile Blog # |
On August 05 2012 14:28 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 14:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On August 05 2012 14:19 justinpal wrote:I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
Or he's just dumbing it down for his audience like any intelligent writer who knows what the hell they're doing would? Yeah, he sent marines with 1/1 upgrades for a timing attack and marine split his marines on creep sounds really good to an audience.
If anyone has ever taken a semi-competent journalism class, they would have never written such a piss poor article. He missed more than 50% of Aristotle's appeals. Instead of saying spitting out blue termites, he could have said, producing workers called probes. Everyone knows what a worker does, and in the process you've fulfilled mythos or knowledge and provided your reader with something new and pertinent.
Yeah "spitting out blue termites" is just repugnantly biased. It's like "Death Panels" - the author knows how readers will react to certain word choices and uses the most flagrant and sensationalist one. So therefore - his article will draw disdain from those who know what they're talking about and over-crazy-concerned responses from those who think the guy spends 10 hours a day on a computer Pest Exterminator Simulator killing "blue termites." |
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| justinpal United States. August 05 2012 14:35. Posts 3233 | Profile # |
On August 05 2012 14:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 14:25 justinpal wrote:
On August 05 2012 14:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On August 05 2012 14:19 justinpal wrote:I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
Or he's just dumbing it down for his audience like any intelligent writer who knows what the hell they're doing would? Yeah, he sent marines with 1/1 upgrades for a timing attack and marine split his marines on creep sounds really good to an audience.
I was more referring to the article and the second part of the quote, I guess my comment wasn't clear. But, the part where they obsess over the fact that he types go or 1a2a3a4a as an indication of his addiction. I'm pretty certain there are a large number of players that do just that.
No, that's clearly not what the writer meant at all. "much like a pianist would when warming up." is the phrase they used. If anything they're highlighting MKP's career and achievements as something good and productive.
Ah, I cbf to read the entire thing. I read it as he was so addicted that he needed his fix and was anxious to get started. I see that part you mentioned, and I disagree that they were highlighting anything. Rather the author acknowledges this is an anxious warm-up. The way it's written is meant for you to think: "Wow, he really wants to play." He stated the number of times he typed go.
I know nothing about MKP and his family so it can all be true. But, I have my doubts.
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