 Insane United States. August 07 2012 03:01. Posts 4949 | Profile Blog # |
On August 07 2012 01:28 TheFrankOne wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 16:55 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On August 06 2012 16:51 Proxan wrote:
On August 06 2012 15:08 Yamulo wrote:
On August 06 2012 14:36 kochanfe wrote:
I agree, they should get someone good like Adebisi to observe...
If hotbid is the one observing, which I think he is, they already have an observer who is better than Adebisi. He just might be making mistakes at the moment, which everyone does, but hotbid is a phenomenal observer.
I assume it's one of the two casters observing since it's a replay and not a live game.
It's not. Never has been.
I think it has been for the Ro32, unlike before. The casters have said things like "...if you look over at..." and named the other caster as if telling them to move the observer's screen over to whatever they are talking about. I would like confirmation on this one way or the other. It has been a growing suspicion as the observing feels way different than it did before to me.
I couldn't say about this most recent weekend as I suppose I didn't ask this weekend, but I asked earlier in the RO32 in the chat, and I was told it was Hot_Bid observing.
Whether it was still HB I don't know, but it seems unlikely they would've switched to one of the players casters obbing. Having one of the players casters ob complicates things, since HB also usually does the stuff about switching scenes and graphics. He just is pretty responsive (he's listening to the casters) and thus moves to areas they're talking about.Last edit: 2012-08-07 03:02:30 |
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| Grumbels Netherlands. August 07 2012 03:40. Posts 3405 | Profile Blog # |
| I assume the set-up they're using is an independent observer that's on the same skype call. On offline broadcasts the casters get a direct feed of the observer stream, but I guess that's difficult with online productions? In any case, it's really Blizzard's fault for lacking shared replay watching. |
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| cYaN Norway. August 07 2012 05:29. Posts 3252 | Profile # |
Didn't want to start a new thread for this.... Any chance someone forgot about uploading the last 2 sets of day4 on the tsl vod page?
Been waiting to check out the thorzain games all day. And the two first games have been up for quite a while. |
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 indxrje August 07 2012 05:49. Posts 220 | Profile # |
dunno if anyone posted this but i dont know why tsl4 has all this super sick aesthetic stuff and then uses the shittiest generic-looking scoreboard possible
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| TeeTS Germany. August 07 2012 06:41. Posts 1729 | Profile # |
| Hum, no Interviews for Week 2? I'm a little disappointed -_- |
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| An2quamaraN Poland. August 07 2012 07:52. Posts 359 | Profile # |
| Isn't Hot_Bid the TSL's game director? |
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| Orzabal France. August 07 2012 07:56. Posts 273 | Profile # |
I agree. The obs just dont watch the minimap.
I think a high level player should obs the game, not a caster. It is very annoying. |
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| Vento7 Brazil. August 08 2012 02:18. Posts 45 | Profile # |
Forgot to say on first post: the obs was only an issue to me last sunday. On the 3 first days it was fine. I'd say that sunday it wasn't HotBid, as I agree he is a good observer.
Edit: I'm pretty sure it wasn't none of the casters obsing, as both caster did play-by-play commentaries that wasn't on camera.Last edit: 2012-08-08 02:19:59 |
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| BerkmanZ United States. August 08 2012 04:59. Posts 47 | Profile # |
On August 07 2012 01:10 Roachu wrote:Oh and one last thing I want to say, something I'm well aware is a subjective matter but please turn up the volume of the ingame-music a bit. To me this makes the games feel more "atmospheric" and furthers the spectator-sport image. I think its a good way to "break the silence" during the times when nothing interesting goes on, rather than forcing the commentators to constantly talk every second. This is just my opinion (and so far GSL are the only one who satisfies my picky taste  ), I'm sure you've thought about this kinda stuff already. I know the point of this thread was the observing but given the title I thought it was a good place to mention it.
To go further off topic here: ASUS ROG had some awesome music for their games, what was that? Was there some kind of custom gaming music? It sounded like the SC2 BG music but it was not. |
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| IcedBacon Canada. August 09 2012 09:42. Posts 705 | Profile # |
Yeah I agree, watching the games brought back memories of the first GSLs and how the observer missed every small detail that was happening. Sometimes I'm just watching the minimap for a bit in these games.
Like in one case, the camera was on an SCV headed to the Protoss' base for literally 15 seconds instead of looking at the probe that was in the Terran base. What did that probe get to see? Was there any fun harassment or little bits of micro going on? Who knows...
Looked up which game it was just because. Creator vs Select game 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PB5dkBKBpvY#!
Camera is on that SCV from... 2:20 to 3:06...Last edit: 2012-08-09 09:51:21 |
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| Sinensis United States. August 09 2012 11:32. Posts 2503 | Profile Blog # |
| TSL 4 already has better everything than anything SC2 related before it. Keep up the amazing work. |
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| [UoN]Sentinel United States. August 09 2012 12:01. Posts 2475 | Profile Blog # |
I absolutely loved the entire tournament so far, waiting on next week to see who's gonna get knocked out next!
Anyways, is it the same observer all the time? I noticed that the first three days the observer was spot-on with his camera work and unit tab, and I believe it's Hotbid since he got mentioned in the elfi vs life preview (about him always looking at the APM tab, which he never did). But fourth day it got sloppy and maybe missed a lot more than previously. |
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| LarJarsE United States. August 09 2012 12:32. Posts 1322 | Profile Blog # |
I have only one issue so far.. and it really only refers to day9.. day9 I love you buddy.. I really do. but when you cast from home with your shitty mic, it puts me into your room and out of the game (because of the reverb in you room)
TL, please buy day9 a new microphone :D |
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| Daniel C Hong Kong. August 09 2012 13:44. Posts 1434 | Profile # |
| Anyone think the Husky-Day9 combo is a bit awkward? Both are best when they dominate the mic. |
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| Willzzz United Kingdom. August 09 2012 16:34. Posts 684 | Profile # |
| Can't they just get TLO to cast? He did a great job during ROG (whole thing was excellent). |
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| EnE August 09 2012 21:53. Posts 417 | Profile Blog # |
| The only critique I can really give for TSL 4 is about using STC, since because of that I couldn't sit through one entire game of the tournament. Last edit: 2012-08-09 21:55:08 |
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| eXplod3 Norway. August 11 2012 23:25. Posts 42 | Profile # |
I'd love to see some torrents with the VODs, since im unable to watch by using VODs, and I'd really like them in my little collection  Does anyone know if there will be any out? - Cheers. |
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| tschecko Andorra. August 12 2012 01:38. Posts 35 | Profile # |
| often the observer sees things the casters dont. sometimes its the other way round. but hey thats live.. as long as i get the taste of the game its okay! and i think the observer did a really good job! |
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| Kleinmuuhg Vanuatu. August 13 2012 01:30. Posts 1831 | Profile Blog # |
On August 12 2012 01:38 tschecko wrote:
often the observer sees things the casters dont. sometimes its the other way round.
Great point!
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| Tabashi Belgium. August 13 2012 08:02. Posts 89 | Profile # |
I don't like to say this but... Wheat is a bad caster for the TSL imo. A great guy for the community, that's for sure, but a bad caster (compared to the other casters you paired him with).
E.g.: Saying in a PvT that the terran is going for a biocentric force isn't interesting because we know he can't possibly go for mech vs P at the highest level of play (unless he wants to lose) while missing out on other crucial info like very early upgrades. He also has a lot of trouble identifying builds and interrupts his fellow casters too often and just talks too much in general.
I could go on, but I won't. The purpose of this post isn't to flame. I was just giving arguments on why he isn't fit to cast the TSL imo. Saying a caster is bad because he is bad isn't very constructive and I wanted to avoid doing so.
P.S.: The plural for colossus isn't "colossus"... It's either colossuses or colossi.
Source: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/colossus?q=colossus
Other than that, I can only say good things about TSL4 (well the stream crashed for a few minutes tonight but no big deal since they recasted it as soon as the stream was back online).Last edit: 2012-08-13 08:09:57 |
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