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Introducing the SC2 World Ranking

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 Metalteeth   United States. August 07 2012 14:10. Posts 115
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The current Top 10:
1 MC 10318.61
2 DongRaeGu 9721.45
3 MVP 7797.32
4 Taeja 5997.71
5 Stephano 5977.80
6 MarineKing 5948.86
7 Seed 5331.29
8 MMA 5287.37
9 Leenock 4569.92
10 viOLet 4550.51

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 opterown  *   Australia. August 07 2012 14:13. Posts 27710
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interesting post!
i disagree with some of the weightings (e.g. IPL - are they all worth 2k? they different greatly in terms of skill/difficult). IEMs are weighted far too strongly imo
but otherwise nice :D
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 Bagration   United States. August 07 2012 14:16. Posts 10834
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On August 07 2012 14:13 opterown wrote:
interesting post!
i disagree with some of the weightings (e.g. IPL - are they all worth 2k? they different greatly in terms of skill/difficult). IEMs are weighted far too strongly imo
but otherwise nice :D


Well, I think he started from LA Battenet invitational, which was around late summer 2011. So this should mean that only IPL 3 and 4 were included (not 100% sure).
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 Metalteeth   United States. August 07 2012 14:16. Posts 115
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On August 07 2012 14:13 opterown wrote:
interesting post!
i disagree with some of the weightings (e.g. IPL - are they all worth 2k? they different greatly in terms of skill/difficult). IEMs are weighted far too strongly imo
but otherwise nice :D


Thanks! The weightings are still open to change if people think they are skewed oddly. I do think that IPL3 and 4 are worth 2000, since I feel that an individual IPL is equal to a MLG Season Championship. IEM is still pretty important, but it seemed kinda odd to weight a "qualifier" event equal to the final world championship. Perhaps make an IEM stop 1500 (equal to an MLG arena) and the IEM WC 2000?
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 FabledIntegral   United States. August 07 2012 14:17. Posts 8377
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Honestly, it's far too subjective for me imo, since it's really just your opinion. I think I'll stick with TLPD, but who knows, maybe your way will catch on!
 
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 Inoshishi   Canada. August 07 2012 14:17. Posts 22
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Seems kind of pointless with the TLPD ELO rankings, but still cool i guess.
 
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 iglocska   Norway. August 07 2012 14:18. Posts 573
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IEM worth more than MLG / IPL? NASL and Asus ROG worth the same as MLG/IPL?
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 Metalteeth   United States. August 07 2012 14:19. Posts 115
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On August 07 2012 14:17 FabledIntegral wrote:
Honestly, it's far too subjective for me imo, since it's really just your opinion. I think I'll stick with TLPD, but who knows, maybe your way will catch on!


Well, the only thing that is my opinion is how each tournament is weighed. Like I said, if people think that I have a tournament weighed strangely, I can easily go change it to what the community thinks is better. TLPD is good too, but since it is still separated between Korean and International, it's hard to get a sense of the two scenes together.
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 Jaeger   United States. August 07 2012 14:21. Posts 533
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Interesting if arbitrary. Since there is no way to lose points seems like it heavily favors those who travel a lot.
http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/656546/Jaeger
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 Yorbon   Netherlands. August 07 2012 14:21. Posts 1371
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Weightings could use some nuancing. (is already mentioned above)

Maybe there is room for some smaller tournaments as well, for example playhem daily or the Go4sc2 (or how was it called), for very few points.
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 hunts   United States. August 07 2012 14:22. Posts 1645
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GSL should definitely be worth more than it is IMO. Winning a GSL is a MUCH bigger accomplishment than something like an MLG or IPL which are all relatively close in points.
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 Cinim   Denmark. August 07 2012 14:23. Posts 640
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You can just make a point system like that, it has to also deduct points from the loses you have. If you want a proper list, like as you said in Tennis, individual matches has to count, points added, points deducted etc.

I love the idea, and always thought someone should do it, but just smacking some points in them will not give a proper result. If you're willing to completely rework this, it would be great imo, but needs a lot of work.
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 Metalteeth   United States. August 07 2012 14:23. Posts 115
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On August 07 2012 14:21 Jaeger wrote:
Interesting if arbitrary. Since there is no way to lose points seems like it heavily favors those who travel a lot.


It's actually weighted in a way that it doesn't require travelling. MVP is in the top 5, despite almost never leaving Korea. Winning a single event is better than getting mediocre results at 10 MLG events, so it is quality over quantity. The point scaling is based heavily on the scale for Tennis, which rewards winning or consistency. There isn't really a way to do it where those that go to more tournaments aren't rewarded for it.

As for losing points...I don't really know of a way to do incorporate that in a balanced maner.
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 Cascade   Australia. August 07 2012 14:24. Posts 2186
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This seems like a great way to complement ELO ratings.

As the sc2 scene is moving a lot faster than the tennis scene, I think having flat weights over a full year is a bit too long. We can see a few players quite high up that haven't done anything noteworthy in a long (by sc2 standards) time. You could make the points decay a bit faster as you suggest, but it will make it less transparent. You will have situation where players will slide away from their first place on a random day between events when their points decayed to much.

Then maybe better to remove points from a tournament when the same tournament runs again. So you lose your GSL points at the next GSL, etc. It makes much more sense in term of defending a championship, and it will make sure positions stay the same between championships. It will still coincide with tennis, as all tennis championships are run annually (right?).
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 opterown  *   Australia. August 07 2012 14:25. Posts 27710
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ok, with the premier tournaments tab open - my personal point weightings (for tournaments this year)

GSL 1-3: 5000

IPL4: 3700
MLG Winter Champs: 3500
MLG Spring Champs: 3500

IEM WC: 3300
NASL 3: 3200
ROG Summer: 3000
Winter Arena: 2700
Iron Squid: 2700 (not all offline, otherwise I would weight it more)

MLG Summer Arena: 2500
HSC 4: 2500
IEM Kiev: 2500
ROG Winter: 2500
DH Stockholm: 2500
DH Summer: 2500
MLG Spring Arena 2: 2400
HSC V: 2300

IEM Sau Paulo: 2000

just my personal rankings; i realise some are different, but mainly due to player pools etc. haven't looked at it very carefully yet, pretty quick random lookover
Last edit: 2012-08-07 14:29:27
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 firehand101   Australia. August 07 2012 14:26. Posts 3000
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Good to see HuK is still top 10 in the world....
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 IMLyte   Canada. August 07 2012 14:26. Posts 671
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IMO gsl needs to weighted waaaay higher. Just being in Code S is insanely hard.
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 goswser   United States. August 07 2012 14:28. Posts 3426
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HAHAHA Mana is higher than nestea.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
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 Shellshock1122   United States. August 07 2012 14:29. Posts 39525
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Is there any sort of built in decay for the world Tennis rankings like they have added for GSL this year? (I don't remember the exact percent but I believe it's 10% decay each season) It just seems a little weird that someone like Huk would still be in the top 10 at this time but I guess it could just feel like an overexaggeration of his recent dropoff. Do the tennis rankings reset after a period of time or does it just continually add until there is some change?

EDIT: I like the idea. It's always interesting to see other people's takes on power rankings and all the different ranking methods. I just had some questions about how it worked since I don't really follow tennis outside of the major events.
Last edit: 2012-08-07 14:30:13
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  starception   August 07 2012 14:30. Posts 205Profile # 
No individual team league points? Like 200 points per team league win or 1200 for an all kill? (if bo7 then 1000)
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