| Hrrrrm United States. August 09 2012 01:19. Posts 1792 | Profile # |
GSL players are basically losing out an entire year where they could make more money on a Kespa team. Given how quickly SC2 moves that is HUGE and you honestly have to wonder how much input players had in this decision. Sucks for the players and this is just delaying the inevitable where Kespa buys out the best players due to having more resources. There is going to be consolidation and they've just pushed the date back arbitrarily. Basically this has just bought the GSL teams until October 2013 to get to the level of Kespa teams resources. Good luck with that. I see 2-3 GSL teams surviving with good enough players and then being swallowed up by Kespa for a 10 team Proleague.
Let the countdown begin. |
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| CeriseCherries United States. August 09 2012 01:22. Posts 4705 | Profile Blog # |
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| TheGGparadox United States. August 09 2012 01:22. Posts 31 | Profile # |
| So, to clarify, to play in the Kespa leagues without having previously been qualified for GSL, a player would have to play in a courage tournament like in BW? |
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| EagleShade United States. August 09 2012 01:23. Posts 42 | Profile # |
I think this is good for both sides. It keeps Kespa from buying out the eF's players and keeps the current Kespa players from being replaced by those bought-out eF players.
I'm cool with the time frame also. When HOTS comes out we are going to see a natural readjustment of the "top" players anyways as some will be better at HOTS than they are at WOL. The Kespa players will now have the entire year to learn HOTS while eF adjusts from WOL to HOTS.
I'm excited about the next year. It will be like Beta with new crazy strats and unexpected cheese on the pro level while the meta-game forms it's self (not as extreme as Beta, mind you). New pro players will emerge as they will be better at HOTS tactics and strats. This agreement will add much-needed stability to the "chaos" that HOTS will bring. |
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| Newbistic China. August 09 2012 01:29. Posts 2911 | Profile Blog # |
| It really shows the power of Kespa and their ability to negotiate. Iron Fist indeed. |
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| Sakray France. August 09 2012 01:33. Posts 616 | Profile Blog # |
Well, it seems to be a good idea, but the eSport Federation is mainly composed by korean teams, right ? So, is a draft or stuff like that between a Kespa team and a foreign team is possible ?
Plus, somehting that I absolutely dislike is the licence stuff. Basically, Kespa is like "well, your players have been playing at a very high level for 2 years, but for us they're not professionnal players, even if they're under contracts". I do feel that eSport Federation has been screwed on this :/ |
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| vesicular United States. August 09 2012 01:51. Posts 915 | Profile Blog # |
On August 09 2012 01:19 Hrrrrm wrote:
Basically this has just bought the GSL teams until October 2013 to get to the level of Kespa teams resources. Good luck with that. I see 2-3 GSL teams surviving with good enough players and then being swallowed up by Kespa for a 10 team Proleague.
It goes both ways. It also gives the Kespa teams time to catch up in skill to the GSL teams. Think of it this way. Kespa teams want time to see what they have as far as SC2 talent on their teams so they do not get rid of potential great players for the sake of signing big name GSL players. GSL teams want to catch up in sponsorships to that of Kespa teams so they don't lose their already great players. Allowing programer licenses goes a long way towards that.
A years timeframe gives both enough time to do this. It's really a mutually beneficial relationship. As a bonus, those of us who enjoy the team aspect of SC2 get to root on our teams with their current players. Wins all around I say. |
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| SoniC_eu Denmark. August 09 2012 02:09. Posts 793 | Profile # |
| Hm..I'm not sure how I feel about this. I think it's a good thing... |
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 cLAN.Anax United States. August 09 2012 02:11. Posts 1561 | Profile Blog # |
So Flash will still be KT_Flash, amirite?  |
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| Gosi Sweden. August 09 2012 02:15. Posts 3154 | Profile # |
On August 09 2012 02:11 cLAN.Anax wrote:So Flash will still be KT_Flash, amirite?
Flash will probably be KT_Flash till the day KT Rolster die or when Flash himself retire. |
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| DwD Sweden. August 09 2012 02:16. Posts 3371 | Profile # |
| Damn thats a sick long time |
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| Tobblish Sweden. August 09 2012 02:19. Posts 3334 | Profile # |
protect both players and the leagues
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| Burns United States. August 09 2012 02:27. Posts 1617 | Profile Blog # |
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| figq August 09 2012 02:30. Posts 9624 | Profile Blog # |
On August 09 2012 01:22 TheGGparadox wrote:
So, to clarify, to play in the Kespa leagues without having previously been qualified for GSL, a player would have to play in a courage tournament like in BW?
edit: Oh, you mean without ever been in GSL? Then yes.
But for those who've been in the GSL, from the article:
"Meanwhile, a pro gamer license given by KeSPA will be distributed to current StarCraft 2 players. Any players previously qualified in GSL Code S and Code A can opt to apply for Progamer status, and once the required professionalism seminars are completed, a Progamer license for StarCraft 2 will be awarded to them."
So most likely all legitimately good GSL players are going to get Kespa licence without any additional effort, except making an application and participating in a Kespa seminar for professional etiquette.Last edit: 2012-08-09 02:31:39 |
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| ragz_gt August 09 2012 02:31. Posts 4302 | Profile # |
On August 09 2012 02:30 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 09 2012 01:22 TheGGparadox wrote:
So, to clarify, to play in the Kespa leagues without having previously been qualified for GSL, a player would have to play in a courage tournament like in BW?
From the article: "Meanwhile, a pro gamer license given by KeSPA will be distributed to current StarCraft 2 players. Any players previously qualified in GSL Code S and Code A can opt to apply for Progamer status, and once the required professionalism seminars are completed, a Progamer license for StarCraft 2 will be awarded to them." So no, most likely all legitimately good GSL players are going to get Kespa licence without any additional effort, except making an application and participating in a Kespa seminar for professional etiquette.
That's not what he asked. He asked about player who without having previously been qualified for GSL. |
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| figq August 09 2012 02:36. Posts 9624 | Profile Blog # |
On August 09 2012 02:31 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 09 2012 02:30 figq wrote:
On August 09 2012 01:22 TheGGparadox wrote:
So, to clarify, to play in the Kespa leagues without having previously been qualified for GSL, a player would have to play in a courage tournament like in BW?
From the article: "Meanwhile, a pro gamer license given by KeSPA will be distributed to current StarCraft 2 players. Any players previously qualified in GSL Code S and Code A can opt to apply for Progamer status, and once the required professionalism seminars are completed, a Progamer license for StarCraft 2 will be awarded to them." So no, most likely all legitimately good GSL players are going to get Kespa licence without any additional effort, except making an application and participating in a Kespa seminar for professional etiquette.
That's not what he asked. He asked about player who without having previously been qualified for GSL.
Interesting follow-up would be - shouldn't Courage = Code A preliminary, so shouldn't GOM give advantage for Code A to players who've won a Kespa courage in SC2?
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| ACrow Germany. August 09 2012 02:46. Posts 3168 | Profile # |
| This seems way too long a time... In a few months we'll see Kespa players participating in GSL and we see a mixed OSL already, so why keep the teams artificially separated? I could understand keeping it separate until Hots is out to give some time to sort everything out, but so long? |
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| IcedBacon Canada. August 09 2012 02:56. Posts 711 | Profile # |
On August 09 2012 02:46 ACrow wrote:
This seems way too long a time... In a few months we'll see Kespa players participating in GSL and we see a mixed OSL already, so why keep the teams artificially separated? I could understand keeping it separate until Hots is out to give some time to sort everything out, but so long?
As it's already been stated plenty of times throughout the thread.. Kespa players need the comfort that their jobs are safe as they train and catch up in skill with the GSL players while GSL teams need time to acquire some serious sponsorships so they can compete with the funding Kespa teams have. It's a solid mutually beneficial agreement.
Also I don't think most the fans want teams to start mixing already. The 'Kespa players vs E-sports federation players' dynamic is sure to attract more viewers.Last edit: 2012-08-09 02:57:57 |
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| Shellshock1122 United States. August 09 2012 03:06. Posts 39320 | Profile Blog # |
| Wow that's such a long time O_o. I guess they dont want KeSPA teams sniping all the top players though since they have more money I assume? |
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