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Upgrading a 560ti, GTX 670 or HD 7970?

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 Kryptonite6006   August 11 2012 02:22. Posts 6
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I'm wanting to upgrade my GPU. The 560ti is great but I think the low memory limits it's performance in certain circumstances.
I've read a few reviews for both cards and I'm still waffling on which to choose.
The 670 and 7970 are close in performance and price. I would probably choose the 4gb 670 card. Which card would you choose if you were looking for the best performance @ 1920x1080?
Looking at my system, I see I might have to upgrade my PSU if I went with the 7970.

Here are the two cards I am looking at
HD 7970
GTX 670

Compare them both here

My current system components listed below.
PSU: Corsair VX 550w 80+
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K (Sandy Bridge-DT XE, D2) 3300 MHz (33.00x100.0) @ 3511 MHz (35.00x100.3)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO
Chipset: Intel Z68 (Cougar Point) [B3]
Memory: 8192 MBytes @ 802 MHz, 11.0-11-11-28 - 4096 MB PC12800 DDR3 SDRAM - G Skill F3-12800CL9-4GBRL - 4096 MB PC12800 DDR3 SDRAM - G Skill F3-12800CL9-4GBRL
Graphics: EVGA e-GeForce GTX 560 Ti nVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (GF114-400), 1024 MB GDDR5 SDRAM
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 skyR   Canada. August 11 2012 02:27. Posts 11177
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The VRAM isn't the limiting factor unless you're running some heavy texture packs at 1080p.
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 IceThorN   Denmark. August 11 2012 02:31. Posts 21
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You don't need 4GB Vram, unless you are planning to play crisis 2 on ultra while streaming HD porn.

Personally i recently had to make the same chioce and i got a 670 for better performance/price
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 Doublemint   Austria. August 11 2012 02:39. Posts 2732
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best performance @ "just" Full HD with like 4xMSAA which is also not that expensive is a 7950.

If you are going above that and/or heavy use of AA going gtx670 should be the way to go, though in like a week Nvidia will launch the gtx660 that could be highly interesting for you as well, as it is expected to outperform a 7950 and in some cases the 7970 for the price range of a 7950.

I would wait for some reviews and then decide which way to go - highest performance/gtx670 or high performance and ok-ish price 7950/gtx660. In any case, cards with custom cooling systems are highly recommended with nvidia and ati highend models.
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 Kryptonite6006   August 11 2012 03:02. Posts 6
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+ Show Spoiler +

By custom cooling do you mean aftermarket heatsinks/fans that you install yourself? Or cards that come with better than standard cooling?

I'm not so worried about the price difference. +/- ~$100 is not that big a deal for me right now.

Thanks for your input.
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 Doublemint   Austria. August 11 2012 03:06. Posts 2732
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np - yes I mean ones with better "non-nvidia/ati standard" cooling. like ones from gigabyte,asus,msi...etc.

Your system will do well with either card - 7950/7970/gtx660/gtx670.

It mainly depends on how much money you want to spend and which performance you expect to have afterwards.
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 LJ   August 11 2012 03:37. Posts 203
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As they are the same price go for the 7970, since the latest drivers they are hot shit. You can get the Ghz edition for that sort of price though and that is the card to go for
Last edit: 2012-08-11 03:41:35
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 Kryptonite6006   August 11 2012 05:57. Posts 6
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I've spoken with a quite few people today that own a 7970 and they say that the card runs pretty hot and the fans are quite noisy. The ghz edition seems to have it even worse. I guess it could have been the type of card they got. I've had heat/noisy fan problems with a few AMD cards in the past, looks like the current gen isn't much better.
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  Neurosis   United States. August 11 2012 06:15. Posts 891Profile # 
Love my evga 670 ftw personally. You can overclock them like a beast if thats your thing. Also, it's impossible to overheat these cards I swear. No matter what game I'm running I never go above 60c and I never hear my gpu fan.
Last edit: 2012-08-11 06:16:07
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 Shagg   Finland. August 11 2012 06:42. Posts 824
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Cant go wrong with any of them. More like choose between which color do you like more? Green of nvidia or red of amd and choose with that.

Generally you cant go wrong with Asus cards with Direct CU II coolers. EVGA cards are also a good pick in my experience.

TL DR Pick the one that has better display connectors for you. Or choose by color.
Last edit: 2012-08-11 06:43:52
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 Hymm.618   August 11 2012 08:19. Posts 39
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I have the Gigabyte 670 and I have to say it is a phenomenal card. And I always prefer Nvidia over AMD, but thats personal preference. I've just had alot of troulbe from AMD driver support in the past, compared to never having any trouble from nvidia.
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 Pusekatten   Norway. August 11 2012 08:53. Posts 231
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I have had both ATI/AMD and Nvidia, I have had strange problems with both.
The Nvidia gtx460 I had would not support dual monitor settup in windows on any other driver than the 275 one.
On my current 7970 I have the problem where xsplit is beeing all retarded and blacks out my screen for 2-3sec while streaming, forcing me to shut the stream down and start it again for xsplit to send frames out again.
Go with what your gut is telling you, or roll a dice if you cant decide.
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 GeorgeyBeats   United Kingdom. August 11 2012 09:04. Posts 322
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I have the strong feeling that the 660 ti will fill the best bang for buck niche when it comes out in a couple of weeks so if you are willing to wait till then. If not the 670 is unreal. Personally I am waiting for next years iterations to come out. I have almost the same hardware and feel the 560 ti will last easily till then.
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 Doublemint   Austria. August 11 2012 14:49. Posts 2732
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To specify my preferences even more and name some models :

For a 7950, which is overclocked(and should be even more overclockable to match a 7970 or above levels) and with good cooling/low noise

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131458&Tpk=PowerColor%20Radeon%20HD%207950%20PCS%2b

For full performance GTX670 with great cooling and overclocking capabilities I would go with gigabyte (I still love my gtx460) :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423

In any case - waiting a couple of weeks for the GTX660 could also lead to a pretty good solution.
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 FragKrag   United States. August 11 2012 15:10. Posts 11068
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^That gigabyte GTX 670 looks phenomenal at $400

OP I would definitely take that. While it's true that the HD 7950 can OC to HD 7970 levels, the GTX 670 in many cases is already near HD 7970 if not above 7970 at stock! This current Nvidia generation does not respond to overclocking as well as the new AMD gen, but ocing a nice GTX 670 2GB will max out just about every game at 1080p.

Normally, I would say go for an HD 7970, but newegg's lowest prices on those are reference models, which get really inefficient when the GPU gets overclocked.
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 iTzSnypah   United States. August 11 2012 15:59. Posts 1216
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I would wait for GTX 660 Ti. its basically 90% of the GTX 670 for ~$350.
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 FragKrag   United States. August 11 2012 17:29. Posts 11068
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http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4869/nvidia_geforce_gtx_660_ti_2gb_reference_video_card_review/index13.html

not really at the quality levels the GTX 670 is capable of pushing
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