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Weird fps problem since 1.5

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 Qiw   Sweden. August 11 2012 08:01. Posts 57
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So i've had this massive performance drop since 1.5 hit, i've tried reinstalling a clean install of the game, deleting all files asociated with starcraft but it did not help one bit.

Usually i play in windowed fullscreen mode and switching to fullscreen does not help. The weird thing is that ultra / extreme gives me around 110 fps at the start of the game and it's pretty steady until after like 10 minutes, in engagements (even midgame engagements when me and my opponent are around 100 food my fps can drop to 20. Now comes the fun part, when i put everything on low my fps at the start of the game jumps up to around 250 - 300, but it's the same issue in the midgame with engagements, my fps drops to around 20.

Why would i have the same problems with everything on low / ultra and extreme, that is very strange to me. Does anyone have any tips regarding this? i can run all other games fine, its just starcraft being really weird.

PC Specs :

AMD 1090T (6 Cores) OCd @ 4Ghz
16 Gig ddr3 @ 1333 mhz
Radeon 6950 HD 2gig factory overcloked to something

Thanks for any advice! <3, as a sidenote i've already tried the fixes going around about loading a replay and deleting cache etc.
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 Boblhead   United States. August 11 2012 09:33. Posts 2557
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turn off AA settings in your Catalyst controller UI for your AMD card. If this doesn't work update drivers etc.
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 jaj22   United Kingdom. August 11 2012 09:39. Posts 1373
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On August 11 2012 08:01 Qiw wrote:
Why would i have the same problems with everything on low / ultra and extreme, that is very strange to me.


SC2 graphics settings make very little difference to CPU usage. At the start of the game, you're GPU-limited and so graphics settings make a huge difference. At 100/100 food, you're CPU limited and so they don't.

As to why your FPS is so bad, it used to be a CPU temperature or frequency problem every time, but 1.5 has caused so many problems that I can't be sure anymore. Still, run HWMonitor in the background while you're playing SC2 and then check your maximum CPU core temps. Also run CPU-Z and check that the CPU is actually running at the correct frequency under load.

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 RoxYi   England. August 11 2012 09:57. Posts 11
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i posted about the exact same problem i have a slightly different system but my issue is exactly the same.....its fucking annoying now :/
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 Qiw   Sweden. August 11 2012 19:16. Posts 57
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@Boblhead, AA already turned off in Catalyst and since catalyst updates drivers when there is a new version i already have the last version.

@jaj22 That's an interesting point actually. I've actually ran a few temp monitoring programs, my temps max out at 45C~ which should not be any problem at all. And since i can run games that require waaaay more of the system flawlessly at max settings it has to be a starcraft related issue right?

@ RoxYi Yeah, i started to wonder if there was something massive wrong with my computer, i used to stream 1080p with everything on high, and still get a good over 100 fps throughout the game and maybe 70 in engagements. I know i have some parts in my PC that needs swapping out. My PSU is 5 years old but yeah.
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 FilthyLucre   Germany. August 12 2012 02:44. Posts 105
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Hi,

I have major lags when queen pops up, banelings explode and so on, but this is only for the first time. This is a know issue, but I really dont know how to fix it. Play some games and it will be okay.
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 jaj22   United Kingdom. August 12 2012 05:26. Posts 1373
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On August 11 2012 19:16 Qiw wrote:
@jaj22 That's an interesting point actually. I've actually ran a few temp monitoring programs, my temps max out at 45C~ which should not be any problem at all. And since i can run games that require waaaay more of the system flawlessly at max settings it has to be a starcraft related issue right?


Not necessarily. Few games are as heavily CPU-limited (and speed-per-core limited) as SC2, so it's quite common to have performance problems in SC2 but nothing else. Check the frequency with CPU-Z anyway.

Note that there's not a universal performance drop with 1.5. As far as I can tell, the performance patterns are identical to previous versions on my crappy dual-core. Maybe there's a bug that affects certain hardware configurations or units, but I'm not seeing much of a pattern so far.

They did change the resource-loading code, but glitches related to that have a very different pattern.

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 Qiw   Sweden. August 12 2012 07:29. Posts 57
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On August 12 2012 05:26 jaj22 wrote:

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Not necessarily. Few games are as heavily CPU-limited (and speed-per-core limited) as SC2, so it's quite common to have performance problems in SC2 but nothing else. Check the frequency with CPU-Z anyway.

Note that there's not a universal performance drop with 1.5. As far as I can tell, the performance patterns are identical to previous versions on my crappy dual-core. Maybe there's a bug that affects certain hardware configurations or units, but I'm not seeing much of a pattern so far.

They did change the resource-loading code, but glitches related to that have a very different pattern.





Yeah i've come to pretty much the same conclusion, it could just be that my hardware is getting old, i've had this cpu for a while now. Also my PSU is from 2007 etc etc. So i guess it's time to swap some pieces of hardware anyway. But i'd hate to swap stuff and then derp no change, you know what i mean?

I've taken a look at the frequencies with cpu-z and even AMDs own tool, and they look normal, no heat issues and i even turned on a warning in the bios that will tell me if the cpu ever goes over 60C. Memory clocks etc check out aswell.
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 B-Wong   United States. August 12 2012 08:26. Posts 239
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On August 12 2012 02:44 FilthyLucre wrote:
Hi,

I have major lags when queen pops up, banelings explode and so on, but this is only for the first time. This is a know issue, but I really dont know how to fix it. Play some games and it will be okay.


You can load up a replay that has all of the units/buildings built/destroyed and all the skills used. It's floating around the internet but I think it's called "Sandbox". Not exactly sure where to get it, but I remember finding it when searching in google for patch 1.5 FPS fixes or something like that.

What this lets Starcraft do is render all of the units and morph/etc.etc.etc. before you get in-game to make your playing a more smooth experience. The replay may take a little while to finish everything up. Just alt+tab and watch a stream for a minute or two and you should be fine.

If there's enough requests (PM me and I'll update this post with a download link to the replay file) I'll update this post with a replay file.
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 Qiw   Sweden. August 12 2012 09:00. Posts 57
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Last edit: 2012-08-12 09:02:05
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