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Wikileaks reveals global Surveillance system

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 sekritzzz   August 11 2012 08:58. Posts 1257
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Holy shit big news.Assange really fucked up the USA this time if reports are true, this is no Iraq video or some afghanistan video, its serious business especially for people living in the USA. To give it a bit of background because its connected with Anonymous' hacking one of the most famous intelligence forecasting firms, Stratfor. This is a quote from Wikileaks:

From Wikileaks:

On Monday February 27th, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor. The e-mails date between July 2004 and late December 2011. They reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal's Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defence Intelligence Agency. The emails show Stratfor's web of informers, pay-off structure, payment laundering techniques and psychological methods.



So whats so big about these e-mails?

Trapwire:

Quote from Businessinsider.com



Every few seconds, data picked up at surveillance points in major cities and landmarks across the United States are recorded digitally on the spot, then encrypted and instantaneously delivered to a fortified central database center at an undisclosed location to be aggregated with other intelligence. It’s part of a program called TrapWire and it's the brainchild of the Abraxas, a Northern Virginia company staffed with elite from America’s intelligence community.

The employee roster at Arbaxas reads like a who’s who of agents once with the Pentagon, CIA and other government entities according to their public LinkedIn profiles, and the corporation's ties are assumed to go deeper than even documented. The details on Abraxas and, to an even greater extent TrapWire, are scarce, however, and not without reason. For a program touted as a tool to thwart terrorism and monitor activity meant to be under wraps, its understandable that Abraxas would want the program’s public presence to be relatively limited. But thanks to last year’s hack of the Strategic Forecasting intelligence agency, or Stratfor, all of that is quickly changing."

So: those spooky new "circular" dark globe cameras installed in your neighborhood park, town, or city—they aren't just passively monitoring. They're plugged into Trapwire and they are potentially monitoring every single person via facial recognition.




There isn't too much information right now because it just got leaked and how hard it is to access it however..... these are a few sites reporting about it despite them not being too reliable.

Wikileaks Mirror site, much more accesible with full access to leaked e-mails http://mirror2.wikileaks-press.org/gifiles/releasedate/2012-08-09.html

http://rt.com/usa/news/stratfor-trapwire-abraxas-wikileaks-313/
http://www.businessinsider.com/trapwire-everything-you-need-to-know-2012-8


I'll update as more information comes in.


For people asking about how they will analyze all the data:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

This is a quote from the article by a whistleblower who used to work for the NSA. The Utah Data center is basically made to store/analyze data from all intelligence agencies.


Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.


Poll:


On August 11 2012 09:29 TotalNightmare wrote:
Well I think there is something missing in the OP and for now I will just put the poll here:
Poll: Are you surprised by this?

No, I always suspected it. (448)
 
70%

No and yes - I am not surprised but I never thought of it. (103)
 
16%

No, but I thought it wouldn't be that big. (52)
 
8%

Yes, and I am questioning how something like this could have been unobserved. (16)
 
3%

Yes and I still dont believe that this is actually true and not just hoax. (14)
 
2%

Yes, but I wonder how this could happen. (4)
 
1%

637 total votes

Your vote: Are you surprised by this?

(Vote): No, I always suspected it.
(Vote): No, but I thought it wouldn't be that big.
(Vote): No and yes - I am not surprised but I never thought of it.
(Vote): Yes, but I wonder how this could happen.
(Vote): Yes, and I am questioning how something like this could have been unobserved.
(Vote): Yes and I still dont believe that this is actually true and not just hoax.





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 Coagulation   United States. August 11 2012 09:02. Posts 7561
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well I cant say im suprised at all.. public surveillance is clearly an inevitable integration of technology in society. I might get a little worried when they start nuking people from orbit with laser satelites but untill then they can watch me all day i dont care.
Last edit: 2012-08-11 10:11:03
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 icydergosu   August 11 2012 09:02. Posts 237
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I knew it, Person of Interest is for reals.
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  thrawn2112   United States. August 11 2012 09:03. Posts 3599Profile Blog # 
why dont we all just fuse our minds together and be done with it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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 Maxd11   United States. August 11 2012 09:03. Posts 611
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I'd be flattered if

large corporations, such as Bhopal's Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defence Intelligence Agency
gave a shit about what I do every day.
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 SergioCQH   United States. August 11 2012 09:03. Posts 107
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Uh, if true, so what? How is this big news?
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 Warlock40   August 11 2012 09:03. Posts 491
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So what's the big deal here? Public surveillance?
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 Vindicare605   United States. August 11 2012 09:04. Posts 6502
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On August 11 2012 09:03 SergioCQH wrote:
Uh, if true, so what? How is this big news?


Never read 1984 I assume?
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 Forgottenfrog   United States. August 11 2012 09:05. Posts 1015
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wow I hope this is not real. It is scary to know the government is keeping an eye on everyone.
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 SergioCQH   United States. August 11 2012 09:05. Posts 107
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On August 11 2012 09:04 Vindicare605 wrote:

Show nested quote +



Never read 1984 I assume?


Does reading 1984 make one cool, or just paranoid?
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 DannyJ   United States. August 11 2012 09:05. Posts 3740
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Oh boy, here comes lots of 1984 references and Ben Franklin quotes.
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 Probe1   United States. August 11 2012 09:06. Posts 16445
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According to STRATFOR sources, preliminary, unconfirmed information
on an unfolding attack Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul indicates that
militans stormed in force out of a vehicle after one suicide bomber
detonated a vest at the gate. Meanwhile rumors on the unfolding even
indicate at least two VBIEDs may be circling compound waiting to get in

Yes, yes I'll definitely sleep worse at night knowing the government has access to insidious information like..
terrorists plans.
....
Bring on the massive conspiracy theory thread!
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 Reborn8u   United States. August 11 2012 09:06. Posts 1552
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It's like that movie, "Enemy of the State"

People need to realize how dangerous it is for liberty, when your government has the information and power to single out and spy on anyone. This isn't about spying on terrorists, it's about spying on everyone all the time.
Last edit: 2012-08-11 09:07:37
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 Blitzkrieg0   United States. August 11 2012 09:06. Posts 4772
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On August 11 2012 09:04 Vindicare605 wrote:

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Never read 1984 I assume?


1984 was a lot more than watching people.
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  Liquid`Drone   Norway. August 11 2012 09:06. Posts 19277Profile # 
If true, how is this not big news? Global surveillance with facial recognition? You're fine with someone knowing where you are and what you're doing at every moment? There's absolutely no way any possible terrorist or other threat justifies this gross invasion of privacy, and that's that.

I don't have time to really investigate this now but based on OP, this is terrible, and the most important leak from wikileaks so far.
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 CecilSunkure   United States. August 11 2012 09:07. Posts 2237
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On August 11 2012 09:06 Probe1 wrote:

Show nested quote +


Yes, yes I'll definitely sleep worse at night knowing the government has access to insidious information like..
terrorists plans.
....
Bring on the massive conspiracy theory thread!

Yes, those dangerous "Terrorist plans". Sleep quite worse, yes, quite worse.
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 Soulstice   United States. August 11 2012 09:09. Posts 182
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Anything in the name of terrorism. God bless.
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 Coagulation   United States. August 11 2012 09:10. Posts 7561
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I really dont see what the problem is with facial recognition.. Every human being walking the planet is equipped with it.

well I dont think revealing this trapwire organization is spying on us is as much the problem as...say.. the implications of where they could go next with this kind of "social monitoring"

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 ZERG_RUSSIAN   August 11 2012 09:11. Posts 5114
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I like that we're using facial recognition to combat terrorism, which "doesn't have a face."
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 Xcobidoo   Sweden. August 11 2012 09:12. Posts 1871
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On August 11 2012 09:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:

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1984 was a lot more than watching people.

Brick by brick, piece by piece. If we allow little by little of these things then we'll eventually end up somewhere bad. The horrible thing about this is that it is/was kept from the public and not your ordinary CCTV deal.
For now, let's just sit back and enjoy the next installment from Alex Jones...
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