| KingofGods Canada. August 13 2012 08:29. Posts 347 | Profile # |
| So I guess I am a little late to the LoL party. I have played dota and dota2 (as well as SC, SC2, WarII, and War3) but going to switch to LoL because a lot of my friends are playing it. I've played about 10 games or so and have done quite well. But, all these new champions with their abilities is daunting. I feel like it will take me hundreds of games just to learn the abilities of the champions (all this is pretty 2nd nature to me for dota) not to mention all the different items. Any tips? I've been reading up on the different champion abilities and items on websites but the information is too much to remember. |
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| JerKy Korea (South). August 13 2012 08:33. Posts 1936 | Profile Blog # |
How did you learn the heroes in DotA and DotA2?
Whatever method you used... cant you do the same thing?
I personally just played bot games, random'd, and went mid
When I had a handful of heroes I could play, started playing normals and used online guides and link to help me |
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| overt United States. August 13 2012 08:40. Posts 3976 | Profile Blog # |
On August 13 2012 08:29 KingofGods wrote:
So I guess I am a little late to the LoL party. I have played dota and dota2 (as well as SC, SC2, WarII, and War3) but going to switch to LoL because a lot of my friends are playing it. I've played about 10 games or so and have done quite well. But, all these new champions with their abilities is daunting. I feel like it will take me hundreds of games just to learn the abilities of the champions (all this is pretty 2nd nature to me for dota) not to mention all the different items. Any tips? I've been reading up on the different champion abilities and items on websites but the information is too much to remember.
Find a couple of champions that you like. Or find a role that you like. Learn those champions/that role really well. Focus on that all the way up to level 30. You'll learn the other roles and champions as you go and when you occasionally step out of your comfort role/set of champions to try something new.
If you intend of playing ranked down the road you should be comfortable in one of the two solo lanes (pick top or mid, whichever has the champ pool you prefer), play a bit of jungling (even if you don't want to jungle you should at least know how to do it and also so you can know how to interact with a jungler when he ganks or invades or gets invaded), and finally you should play one of the two bot roles (if you end up liking support a lot you'll always have a role to play in ranked but you should still play AD at least some so that you can know how those two roles interact).
While climbing to level 30 do not give a shit about "meta." No one follows it. Lots of games pre-30 still don't have junglers (especially if you lose a decent amount). Just play champions you like or champions that look interesting. Every free week don't feel afraid to just try out one or two new champions to see how they play. If you're into competitive gaming (and if you're on TL you probably are) consider watching pro player streams or pro matches and emulate what pro players do. But most importantly, during pre-30 just play to have fun. Don't worry about improving or being good, just play to have fun, learn the game, and enjoy yourself.
Once you hit 30 and start buying runes/setting up masteries you can worry about getting good and improving. Pre-30 was pretty much intended to just be made for learning the game anyways.
I realize that my first paragraph and telling you not to take it seriously may contradict itself. But most people find the game easier to learn if they just focus on a couple of characters they like or focusing just on something like AP mid or jungling.
edit/tl;dr
Just play the game. Reading only helps so much. Last edit: 2012-08-13 08:47:30 |
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| KingofGods Canada. August 13 2012 08:50. Posts 347 | Profile # |
My dota knowledge came from hundreds if not thousands of dota games. I played since it first came out as a custom in war3. I may be too old now to spend so much time learning a new game.
I also find the graphics in LoL make it hard to distinguish champions or maybe it's just my unfamiliarity with the game. |
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| barbsq United States. August 13 2012 09:00. Posts 3039 | Profile # |
On August 13 2012 08:50 KingofGods wrote:
My dota knowledge came from hundreds if not thousands of dota games. I played since it first came out as a custom in war3. I may be too old now to spend so much time learning a new game.
I also find the graphics in LoL make it hard to distinguish champions or maybe it's just my unfamiliarity with the game.
i actually find that it's much easier to see what's going on in LoL much easier than dota2, and much easier than HoN
a lot of it comes down to personal preference tho, but try putting your gfx settings down (i play at minimum)
LoL isn't exactly a pretty game anyways.
edit: learning champs, esp at this point, is going to come down to sheer experience. There really isn't any shortcuts around it.Last edit: 2012-08-13 09:00:52 |
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| MeteorRise Canada. August 13 2012 09:09. Posts 558 | Profile # |
| I would try to pick a role or two you like, then slowly learn most of the champs in that role. Also trying to figure out the role of champs you encounter will give you a basic idea of what they do. But you should probably play some more games or even read up on them in your free time. |
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| Seuss United States. August 13 2012 09:21. Posts 2979 | Profile Blog # |
On August 13 2012 08:50 KingofGods wrote:
My dota knowledge came from hundreds if not thousands of dota games. I played since it first came out as a custom in war3. I may be too old now to spend so much time learning a new game.
I also find the graphics in LoL make it hard to distinguish champions or maybe it's just my unfamiliarity with the game.
Since you're experienced with DotA, you can probably just keep lolwiki open in a browser. Anytime you see a champion you've never seen before alt-tab and read their abilities. Anytime a freeweek rotation is posted read up on the champions. Simply knowing what champions do before you encounter them will help you a lot, even though there's no substitute for experience.
Also, taking the time to try out every champion for a few minutes in a custom/coop vs ai game whenever there's a new rotation can help a lot as well. |
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| sob3k United States. August 13 2012 09:28. Posts 4669 | Profile Blog # |
I started a list of champions with a really fast description of what they do, good for checking out during loading if you see someone you arent familiar with, but I havent finished:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332398
Its not up to date on some of the recently remade champs (evelynn etc)Last edit: 2012-08-13 09:31:08 |
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| KingofGods Canada. August 13 2012 09:33. Posts 347 | Profile # |
Is Garen considered a good champion? I just went 13-0-3 with him and my team still lost lol.
At first I was like, "why doesn't this guy have mana?" lol. I'm just going to buy all the recommended items for now.Last edit: 2012-08-13 09:36:08 |
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| MayorITC Korea (South). August 13 2012 09:35. Posts 742 | Profile Blog # |
| If you're new, I wouldn't worry about who is a good champion and who isn't. All champions can be played up to a fairly high ELO rating. |
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| obesechicken13 United States. August 13 2012 09:39. Posts 4232 | Profile Blog # |
On August 13 2012 09:35 MayorITC wrote:
If you're new, I wouldn't worry about who is a good champion and who isn't. All champions can be played up to a fairly high ELO rating.
Except maybe Evelynn. Stay away from her.Last edit: 2012-08-13 09:39:55 |
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| Wetty Australia. August 13 2012 09:45. Posts 244 | Profile # |
My personal tack to this task is quite different to what some are suggesting, but worked well for me. When leveling to 30, I took the opportunity to play a different champion every time I played (Within reason, soon you wont have enough free week champions or the IP to buy a new one, sometimes you want to play the same champion for a few games in a row) But that meant that when I reached 30, I'd played the majority of champions, at least once. I found it a good way to learn abilities, learn which champions I liked and disliked and discovered how different champions interact a lot easier. I would certainly recommend giving every champion a shot, you can pick one and focus on a role further down the track to improve your mechanical game, but having a well rounded view of the game (imo) is a much better point to be starting from (Which comes from playing many different champions in many different roles, sometimes even roles they aren't well suited to).
Good luck!
TL:DR Play ALL the champions! |
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| Sufficiency Canada. August 13 2012 09:46. Posts 7280 | Profile Blog # |
| I am pretty sure that you only need to know about maybe 10-25 champions to play rather well... especially if you focus on one lane only. |
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| sob3k United States. August 13 2012 09:47. Posts 4669 | Profile Blog # |
On August 13 2012 09:33 KingofGods wrote:
Is Garen considered a good champion? I just went 13-0-3 with him and my team still lost lol.
At first I was like, "why doesn't this guy have mana?" lol. I'm just going to buy all the recommended items for now.
dont do that, items are simple
I made a guide a while back: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328142 |
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| KingofGods Canada. August 13 2012 09:54. Posts 347 | Profile # |
But I need to know if that hero can stun, can he hook, what does his ult do, etc. And yeah, I'm just going through every single hero at the moment.
Is there a shortcut I am missing to buy items? It seems tedious to click on the item and then hitting buy.Last edit: 2012-08-13 09:55:03 |
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| Celial August 13 2012 09:56. Posts 908 | Profile Blog # |
| you can doubleclick the item in the shop menu |
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| Sufficiency Canada. August 13 2012 09:56. Posts 7280 | Profile Blog # |
On August 13 2012 09:54 KingofGods wrote:
But I need to know if that hero can stun, can he hook, what does his ult do, etc. And yeah, I'm just going through every single hero at the moment.
Is there a shortcut I am missing to buy items? It seems tedious to click on the item and then hitting buy.
True, but the popularity of champions are extremely skewed right now. Some are very popular (in as much as 30% of the games), some are seen in less 2% of the games.Last edit: 2012-08-13 09:57:39 |
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| obesechicken13 United States. August 13 2012 10:10. Posts 4232 | Profile Blog # |
On August 13 2012 09:54 KingofGods wrote:
But I need to know if that hero can stun, can he hook, what does his ult do, etc. And yeah, I'm just going through every single hero at the moment.
Is there a shortcut I am missing to buy items? It seems tedious to click on the item and then hitting buy.
The best way it to make recommended items for every champion. |
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| sob3k United States. August 13 2012 10:22. Posts 4669 | Profile Blog # |
On August 13 2012 09:54 KingofGods wrote:
But I need to know if that hero can stun, can he hook, what does his ult do, etc. And yeah, I'm just going through every single hero at the moment.
Is there a shortcut I am missing to buy items? It seems tedious to click on the item and then hitting buy.
On August 13 2012 09:28 sob3k wrote:I started a list of champions with a really fast description of what they do, good for checking out during loading if you see someone you arent familiar with, but I havent finished: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332398Its not up to date on some of the recently remade champs (evelynn etc)
Thats the focus of these, mobility skills and CC so you dont get surprised ingame |
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| Feartheguru Canada. August 13 2012 11:00. Posts 762 | Profile # |
| When you play a champion. Google "name" build solomid, click the first link, follow the skill order and build there, it'll always be better than the recommended items. |
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