IEM LG-IMMVP TvZ Mech Build

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The reason why previous mechanic builds could not be the mainstream build is that they had a severe weakness to certain timings. One is when Zerg teched up to Lair and another is when Hive is done.

When Terran players continuously make Thors and Hellions, speed-up Roach drop or Nydus could end the game. But when Terran makes too many Seige Tanks, scared of roach attacks, surprise Mutalisks do lots of damage. So when Terrans try to go defensive, they can never have a lead during the game. Furthermore, going defensively can give Zerg too much time to tech to Broodlords.

But MVP's recent mechanic build improvised on that weakness. The key point is Banshees. Normally, producing only two banshee is the standard. These two Banshees can be easily dealt with Queens and while they may be annoying Zerg players can go for Ling-Roach push. However MVP produces Banshees continuously and when 4-5 Banshees are produced, their firing power can easily kill roaches and banelings. What Zerg can do against this is producing lots of lings to push, ignoring banshees. However ,MVP makes unbelievable amount of Hellions. He uses these Hellions to defend if Zerg pushes with lings, and if not, he goes for drone kills.

This means that ground attacks from Zerg is prevented. Therefore Terran can easily take 6 gas much earlier than the standard timing. Then the build delays seige tank production and rather produce lots of Thors. One disadvantage of this is Banshees are only strong around Terran's base or the centre of the map. They can't support Thors if Terran decides to push as Queens can take on Banshees and Banshees won't be able to help to kill roaches. This means that Terran also can't push out which makes the game to go for longer.

While MVP's build is great against offensive Zerg players but against defensive player, it's not that effective. So MVP tries to overcome this problem with upgrades, as Terran took 6 gas easily without threats - early upgrades from 2 armory is possible. So he saves his firing power to receive great interest from upgrades which is great against Hive units.

Broodlings stay alive longer when Terran goes for mechanic than bionic. In this case, when mechanic units have well upgraded armour, Thors stay alive so much longer and with the effect of better weapons upgrade - you can observe thors killing Broodlords and Corrupters which normally you can't see.

So his build is very well built against both offensive and defensive players without ruling out any strategies from Zerg players.
(PS. 5+ banshees can snipe infestors or make them waste infestor energy)

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On August 20 2012 02:59 Aunvilgod wrote:
And he speaks english pretty damn well too.

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On August 20 2012 02:59 lastshadow wrote:
I honestly have no idea why this needed analysis, this was nothing special about what he was doing, and any good Terran knows banshee's are a core to mech TvZ. It's pretty silly cause he reiterates the same thing a few times in his "analysis". And his analysis is even wrong, because he can't even begin to fathom the complexity of banshee usage (albeit it is correct to use them the way MVP showcased), but to talk about it in such a simplistic manner is doing the complexity of it, a true disservice.

He didn't do anything fancy or special, he simply played better with mech, perhaps people just aren't used to seeing it a lot in "big" games, but MKP did this for a long time, why not hail him?

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On August 20 2012 03:06 lastshadow wrote:
I spoke about how koreans do this in practice 24/7? My vLogs from [6] months ago talk about it heavily and state it is a core of true mech play. I spent 40minutes speaking about banshee's and their gross effect on controlling zerg and how important they are to mech.

vLog#18 is the vLog im talking about.

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On August 20 2012 03:00 CP-Jun wrote:


Haha : ) I've translated his Korean tweet into English : )

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I honestly have no idea why this needed analysis, this was nothing special about what he was doing, and any good Terran knows banshee's are a core to mech TvZ. It's pretty silly cause he reiterates the same thing a few times in his "analysis". And his analysis is even wrong, because he can't even begin to fathom the complexity of banshee usage (albeit it is correct to use them the way MVP showcased), but to talk about it in such a simplistic manner is doing the complexity of it, a true disservice.

He didn't do anything fancy or special, he simply played better with mech, perhaps people just aren't used to seeing it a lot in "big" games, but MKP did this for a long time, why not hail him?

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On August 20 2012 03:06 lastshadow wrote:
I spoke about how koreans do this in practice 24/7? My vLogs from [6] months ago talk about it heavily and state it is a core of true mech play. I spent 40minutes speaking about banshee's and their gross effect on controlling zerg and how important they are to mech.

vLog#18 is the vLog im talking about.

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On August 20 2012 04:08 Azulo wrote:




lastshadow, always trying to get some attention are we? I thought you switched to LoL after the redbull humiliation?

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On August 20 2012 04:08 Azulo wrote:




lastshadow, always trying to get some attention are we? I thought you switched to LoL after the redbull humiliation?

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On August 20 2012 03:06 lastshadow wrote:
I spoke about how koreans do this in practice 24/7? My vLogs from [6] months ago talk about it heavily and state it is a core of true mech play. I spent 40minutes speaking about banshee's and their gross effect on controlling zerg and how important they are to mech.

vLog#18 is the vLog im talking about.

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On August 20 2012 02:59 lastshadow wrote:
I honestly have no idea why this needed analysis, this was nothing special about what he was doing, and any good Terran knows banshee's are a core to mech TvZ. It's pretty silly cause he reiterates the same thing a few times in his "analysis". And his analysis is even wrong, because he can't even begin to fathom the complexity of banshee usage (albeit it is correct to use them the way MVP showcased), but to talk about it in such a simplistic manner is doing the complexity of it, a true disservice.

He didn't do anything fancy or special, he simply played better with mech, perhaps people just aren't used to seeing it a lot in "big" games, but MKP did this for a long time, why not hail him?

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On August 20 2012 05:30 Ratch! wrote:
I am not really sure about this, but I believe he did this build only in Metropolis, so it could be map dependant.

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On August 20 2012 06:21 art0 wrote:
Am i the only One to notice that it was really the seeker missiles that made the difference in the end game battles? MVP landed some sick heat seekers which anhiliated the broodlords before they did any damage. TvZ isn't so muh about a specific build but how u trade as cost efficiently with the inevitable broodlords.

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