On August 22 2012 05:42 FoxShine wrote: edit: someone said it wouldn't be possible to master all the things that batman did. I think its possible as the experts in those fields are still relatively normal people. I'm talking about a super-genius with perfect genes related to athleticism. One explanation of any topic or procedure that results in an instant mastery and retention - it would be pretty easy.
The issue has nothing to do with genes. You watch too many movies; maintaining mastery over a field requires more than simple eidetic memory.
It's impossible to learn how to play Starcraft at a pro-level simply by recieving an explanation. You need to actually play. Ever stop playing for a few months and then start again? You have to get back into shape before you're at the same level again. This problem only gets exaggerated at higher skill levels, and is even more true for physical activities (where maintaining physical conditioning and muscle memory become issues).
The simple issue is that there are simply not enough hours in a day to stay world-class at all the things that Batman does.
sorrowptoss Canada. August 22 2012 05:57. Posts 1000
On August 22 2012 05:42 FoxShine wrote: edit: someone said it wouldn't be possible to master all the things that batman did. I think its possible as the experts in those fields are still relatively normal people. I'm talking about a super-genius with perfect genes related to athleticism. One explanation of any topic or procedure that results in an instant mastery and retention - it would be pretty easy.
The issue has nothing to do with genes. You watch too many movies; maintaining mastery over a field requires more than simple eidetic memory.
It's impossible to learn how to play Starcraft at a pro-level simply by recieving an explanation. You need to actually play. Ever stop playing for a few months and then start again? You have to get back into shape before you're at the same level again. This problem only gets exaggerated at higher skill levels, and is even more true for physical activities (where maintaining physical conditioning and muscle memory become issues).
The simple issue is that there are simply not enough hours in a day to stay world-class at all the things that Batman does.
Which is why Batman will always be a comic book character. Even Nolan-Batman was relatively pitiful compared to his paper counterpart.
ONE MILLION YEARS DUNGEON!
wei2coolman United States. August 22 2012 06:09. Posts 9792
On August 22 2012 05:47 wei2coolman wrote: Anyone watch Burn Notice? Modern day Batman story being told.
Lol Michael Westen is probably the closest thing to Batman in term of drive, intelligent, and capability.
also luck
That's not say, Batman hasnt been lucky before.... in the movies gets saved by cannon shot by cat woman~, just happens to be put in a prison with a doctor that can fix his back just by punching his spine...
Also, for everyone who says he's a master at stuff, he really isn't >.>
He has entire companies R&D to make his shit, criminal psychology isn't that hard, it's not unheard of to have a person double major in criminal psych, and other stuff.
As far as chemistry goes, you only need a pretty basic understanding of chemistry to do a lot of the "flashy" chemical scenes, like creating a firebomb, or a smokebomb, and what not. A lot of the macgyver stuff were completely viable~, and only required a high level of thinking, along w/ basic knowledge
As far as keeping himself in good shape, that's not unheard of as well.
The only questionable parts would probably be the tech gear, a lot of it is pretty advanced body armor, and integrated electronics, years ahead of our time, but that's not say it won't be developed in 5-10 years.
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sunprince United States. August 22 2012 06:13. Posts 2024
On August 22 2012 05:57 sorrowptoss wrote: In a few weeks, the next thread will be "is the Joker possible" and then "is Robin possible". Just saying.
I guess, lets discuss it here than! While I don't care about Robin, I would be really interested in the Joker ... I mean, don't you actually "only" need good connections, a pretty high IQ and a tiny bit (well .. maybe a bit more) of craziness to do it?
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TotalBalanceSC2 Canada. August 22 2012 06:24. Posts 393
On August 22 2012 05:42 FoxShine wrote: edit: someone said it wouldn't be possible to master all the things that batman did. I think its possible as the experts in those fields are still relatively normal people. I'm talking about a super-genius with perfect genes related to athleticism. One explanation of any topic or procedure that results in an instant mastery and retention - it would be pretty easy.
The issue has nothing to do with genes. You watch too many movies; maintaining mastery over a field requires more than simple eidetic memory.
It's impossible to learn how to play Starcraft at a pro-level simply by recieving an explanation. You need to actually play. Ever stop playing for a few months and then start again? You have to get back into shape before you're at the same level again. This problem only gets exaggerated at higher skill levels, and is even more true for physical activities (where maintaining physical conditioning and muscle memory become issues).
The simple issue is that there are simply not enough hours in a day to stay world-class at all the things that Batman does.
Batman doesn't need to be the fastest human, or the best at anything really, he just has to be able to do what he does and well. Lets assume though, that a person as remarkable as Bruce Wayne really exists; Would they want to play Starcraft on the same level as MVP and DRG? Perhaps he could play an hour or 2 a week and be GM or High Masters. That would be a bright fellow with an interest in Starcraft. Besides practicing his craft of crime fighting every night, and he clearly maintains physical fitness.
As for being a martial artist, lets say a top MMA fighter went up to a couple of street thugs. He could beat the shit out of 3-4 average men who aren't as strong, tall or competent at fighting. With a bat suit, and secret ninja training, come on. It's obvious most criminals wouldn't stand a chance.
So then its about his skills of detective work. He basically has to have the reasoning and deductive powers of Sherlock Holmes, of course aided by some of Fawks epic electronics and Bruce's knowledge of electronics thereof.
I think the only reason it hasn't happened before is that its not really worth it for anyone to do this. Super-geniuses, olympic athetes, professional starcraft players, and fighters are doing what they do. Winning and science. There just hasn't been the right person in the right place. No development of a personality with enough zealous, or more importantly, the faculties to take on something like this.
We do what we must, because we can
sunprince United States. August 22 2012 06:38. Posts 2024
Trucks are made of aluminum. The heavily conditioned legs of martial artists, on the other hand, are made of bones harder than concrete. This kickboxer is only 152 pounds, and using roundhouse kicks. It's not a huge stretch for the 210 pound Bruce Wayne to level proportionately bigger trees using side kicks (which deliver more force than roundhouse kicks do to a smaller area).
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duncan.mc United States. August 22 2012 06:51. Posts 219
Trucks are made of aluminum. The heavily conditioned legs of martial artists, on the other hand, are made of bones harder than concrete. This kickboxer is only 152 pounds, and using roundhouse kicks. It's not a huge stretch for the 210 pound Bruce Wayne to level proportionately bigger trees using side kicks (which deliver more force than roundhouse kicks do to a smaller area).
That is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar cry from being a 1.5ft - 2.0ft diameter oak tree (or similar tree). Way farther than the difference between a 150lb man and a 210lb man.
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TotalBalanceSC2 Canada. August 22 2012 06:52. Posts 393
Something tells me you have never tried to kick an Ash tree before, trust me a tree thicker then a person as portrayed in Year one is not gonna be knocked over by anything short of a tank. I have numerous years of Kung-Fu training and I know of no one who can kick a real tree in half. Even someone as massive as Semmy Schilt would probably break his leg trying.
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Everyone has something useful to say, unfortunately most people never listen. Sic semper erat, et sic semper erit.
Inverse1 United Kingdom. August 22 2012 07:20. Posts 58
On August 22 2012 06:52 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote: Something tells me you have never tried to kick an Ash tree before, trust me a tree thicker then a person as portrayed in Year one is not gonna be knocked over by anything short of a tank. I have numerous years of Kung-Fu training and I know of no one who can kick a real tree in half. even someone as massive as Semmy Schilt would probably break his leg trying.
Well, kung fu is bullshido, so of course not. Legitimate striking arts, on the other hand, are actually capable of generating sufficient force.
White ash wood has a side hardness of 5,900 N, while kicks dealing over 9,000 N have been recorded in labs, so it's not inconcievable that each of Batman's kicks would damage a tree until it eventually breaks.
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