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ThyLastPenguin United Kingdom. August 27 2012 21:40. Posts 86

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(Liking the Alliteration aren't you? <3)
A while ago, I made another thread on this very website with problems vs. Stephano style Roaches (Looky http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353095)
I took advice from there and started using a 7gate all in. (I used MCs). Since then I've slightly changed it a bit and instead of having 1 gas, 3 probes on gas I get 2 gases and have 4 probes. This lets me get +1 finished slightly before WG (So, when I should be pushing out to secure a pylon)
This was working great (I was winning roughly 90% of my PvZs I think) until recently where my opponents have been going fast third -> Mass roach style.
Here are 2 such examples of this.
+ Show Spoiler +
Self Analysis:
I put a cannon down at his third. That's my attempt at slowing him down before he gets too much of an economy to crush me. It seems to me like it was worth it, forcing a bunch of lings and no mining there for a while.
I don't time my pylon right and my first warp in is delayed slightly.
First warp in seemed to do good damage, forcing a drone pull. I let too many units die however. Then he just overwhelms me with roaches, no matter how much I use my mad-same-as-a-bronze-league micro. ):

+ Show Spoiler +
Self analysis:
Oh god that wall.
I get 2 stalkers stuck inside my base. I hate walling on this map.
My pylon was late again.
Was a general sloppy game that I just get overwhelmed in.

One key problem from all my games Is CB I think. I'm not CBing my gates during the battle. I think that could be an issue but I'm not gonna pin the whole thing on that. Unless I should. Then I'm an idiot :>

Thanks in advance <3

"Stephano is pretty much saving SC2 one hidden knife and pedophile joke at a time." - Fionn

Stu August 28 2012 00:49. Posts 13

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You float 1200 minerals and have 200CB .. No zealot support for the stalkers and you have 2 stalkers in your base. Try to build the gates in 2 locations so you are not easily scouted.

PS CB is actually very important; The wall was fine just the cannon in a bad spot

Last edit: 2012-08-28 00:51:12

StaraCroft Austria. August 28 2012 07:41. Posts 165

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This is not a great replay to critique because you're clearly not doing "MC's" or anyones 7-gate, youre cannon rushing the third, your're getting double gas and +1 etc... Why even call it MC's 7gate?
But since I'm already watching it:
If you're hellbound on cannon rushing, build 2 cannons with one on the high ground, however I'm not a fan of that cannon rush anyway. You could have gone nexus first based on what you scouted, or at least go 17 forge 17 nexus.

Your wall isn't very good. Your cannon doesn't cover all of it and it's exposed. Watch a high level replay on any map with a 2FF ramp to natural and copy that wall.
I'm going to ignore the cannon rush and move on:
You overmake probes for a 7 gate. You need to cut before 44 supply to get the gates up in time. You can get up to 16 after that or stay undersaturated - your call. You chrono +1 senselessly because it's going to finish way before you move out anyway. You're not chronoing warpgate which is the only thing you should chrono from the time the cybernetics core finishes. You shouldn't get +1 in the first place because it delays your push too much. Stick with one gas.
The basic outline of 7gate is: nexus asap, gateway asap, cybernetics asap, only chrono probes until cybernetics finishes, when cybernetics finishes you chrono warpgate research only. At warpgate research ~60% you cut probes and build all the gates at once. You know the rest.
If you are prone to floating a lot of minerals: overmake gateways. Go up to 10, 12. Better to waste 300 minerals in unneeded production than to float 1500 because you don't have the gateways when you remember to warp in.

Finally: Focus on the build you want to learn and cut the shenanigans.

Last edit: 2012-08-28 07:43:45

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