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| iloveav Poland. August 27 2012 23:18. Posts 817 | Profile # |
Personally i would go for a SSD for the OS, or another 4gb ram (EDIT, you dont NEED more ram, but it does help in games that use mods, or have huge loading areas).
The rest of your pc seems quite well balanced, so i dont think you could get a good improvement unless get a new mobo/cpu/gpu combo.
Another option would be to get a good soundcard and a good speaker setup, since apart from video, audio is the other way to enjoy gaming/movie/music.
Its hard to recommend, since i dont know your budget and your expectations.Last edit: 2012-08-27 23:31:57 |
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| Sablar Sweden. August 27 2012 23:30. Posts 803 | Profile Blog # |
Different games have different requirements for CPU and GPU.
Most games are most dependand on the GPU so for most games upgrading that would be the best choice. Starcraft 2 is one of the games that require a lot from the CPU though.
That PC wizard is just misleading and you need to check up benchmarks of FPS in different games with different setups to get an idea of performance.
Unless you have a lot of stuff running you should be fine with 4gb RAM. |
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| Rachnar France. August 27 2012 23:30. Posts 1421 | Profile # |
| What do you want to be able to do with your computer? It isn't bad at all still, you might want to OC yoru cpu though |
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| Krowser Canada. August 27 2012 23:39. Posts 787 | Profile # |
| Updated the OP with Goals and Budget |
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| eror11 Croatia. August 27 2012 23:41. Posts 5 | Profile # |
| I would have gone with mobo + proc the moment I saw the configuration... The budget seems pretty decent, you should be able to get quite a good setup for that. I would go for a z68mobo with 2500k and some ram, I think that leaves you with some money to spare (not 100% sure 'cos im not from NA though). |
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| Rachnar France. August 27 2012 23:57. Posts 1421 | Profile # |
| check your temps under load, seems strange fps drops that low on d3 |
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| Arghmyliver United States. August 28 2012 00:12. Posts 660 | Profile Blog # |
That test is showing that you have an Intel Core i5 - but you say you have a Phenom II x4. So maybe you need a new bottleneck test.
Edit: Ah - I see that is the reference. Still - would recommend a new test.Last edit: 2012-08-28 00:13:54 |
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| Bog Netherlands. August 28 2012 00:22. Posts 33 | Profile Blog # |
While I'm mostly amazed by how you are able to play video games on a 47" monitor ( wow that's some amazing neck muscles), I can only comment on your upgrade plans by telling you not to do it. Your hardware is, while not the-best-of-the-best, still really good. If you want a significant speed boost, you would have to change the main board and CPU to probably a higher end intel i5 (i5-2500 f.e., don't bother with the -K versions if your not going to ever overclock your CPU). This will cost approximately $350, depending on the main board you'd want (I'd advise a low-cost one, the gain from higher end models is insignificant if you're not a power user).
The SSD upgrade will not give you better FPS in games, but it certainly makes your PC 'feel' faster in anything else it does.
Or; safe yourself from spending so much money and just lower your graphic settings a bit. I know this is just the annoying, unwanted answer, but it just saddens me to see people throw money at what is essentially an unnecessary luxury.
P.S.; your FPS seem low anyway with your current setup, these should be able to be much higher, are you sure there is nothing else going on with your PC? Software clutter, driver issues, etc?Last edit: 2012-08-28 00:23:26 |
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| Medrea August 28 2012 00:27. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
Planetside 2 has horrible optimization issues it still needs to work out so nothing meaningful can be said about it.
Diablo 3 like a lot of Blizzard games are CPU bound, your AAA single player games are usually GPU bound. And a 460 is a good card still.
That being said, Diablo 3 running at sub 20 FPS does not make sense. Check temperatures of the GPU and CPU while playing the game. |
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| Krowser Canada. August 28 2012 00:32. Posts 787 | Profile # |
On August 28 2012 00:22 Bog wrote:While I'm mostly amazed by how you are able to play video games on a 47" monitor ( wow that's some amazing neck muscles), I can only comment on your upgrade plans by telling you not to do it. Your hardware is, while not the-best-of-the-best, still really good. If you want a significant speed boost, you would have to change the main board and CPU to probably a higher end intel i5 (i5-2500 f.e., don't bother with the -K versions if your not going to ever overclock your CPU). This will cost approximately $350, depending on the main board you'd want (I'd advise a low-cost one, the gain from higher end models is insignificant if you're not a power user). The SSD upgrade will not give you better FPS in games, but it certainly makes your PC 'feel' faster in anything else it does. Or; safe yourself from spending so much money and just lower your graphic settings a bit. I know this is just the annoying, unwanted answer, but it just saddens me to see people throw money at what is essentially an unnecessary luxury. P.S.; your FPS seem low anyway with your current setup, these should be able to be much higher, are you sure there is nothing else going on with your PC? Software clutter, driver issues, etc?
My ''monitor'' is actually my television. I sit on a couch so there are no neck issues. :D
I get this FPS with maxed out settings. My video drivers have been updated recently. I also did a massive cleanup of my PC using CCleaner and Maleware bytes.
Maybe I'm due for another round of driver updates. Or...
A format? 
The games I currently play are the following:
World of Tanks - 35 to 45 FPS, it only lags when I use the zoom function. However one of the fans in my PC goes crazy whenever I play. I'm positive this is a tweaking issue. I'll have to open some sort of config file and change a number from 3 to 7 or something like that.
Diablo 3 - 40 FPS unless I'm in an area with water, then it falls to 20. The same thing happens in big fights.
Planetside 2 - I lowered everything to medium and the FPS was pretty good.
But I want MAX!! :D
I'd like to fully experience the games that I purchase and I know I can figure out a way. |
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| Medrea August 28 2012 00:36. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
Buy all new hardware for $1000 every year. And then some games will still be unmaxable.
40 FPS in D3 is still not good for your hardware unless Im missing something. Like your taking FPS measurements during your first run of the game.Last edit: 2012-08-28 00:36:10 |
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| Krowser Canada. August 28 2012 00:38. Posts 787 | Profile # |
On August 28 2012 00:36 Medrea wrote:
Buy all new hardware for $1000 every year. And then some games will still be unmaxable.
40 FPS in D3 is still not good for your hardware unless Im missing something. Like your taking FPS measurements during your first run of the game.
No no, I have the FPS meter running most of the time and it rarely goes over 45-50.
What can I do? |
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| Medrea August 28 2012 00:40. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
| Letting us know what temps you get on the CPU and GPU when playing. |
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| Myrmidon United States. August 28 2012 00:48. Posts 8484 | Profile Blog # |
Check CPU temperatures under load.
As meaningless as most random benchmarks are, I have a hard time believing that a fully-functioning ~$140 quad core desktop processor from a year or two ago would score that low on the processor part of that diagram. Something's wrong with the benchmark, or with your CPU installation (loose heatsink?).
It all kind of sounds like thermal throttling of CPU speeds. |
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| Krowser Canada. August 28 2012 00:57. Posts 787 | Profile # |
Hmmm..
Interesting. I'm not at home right now but I will definitely check this out tonight.
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What other tests should I run? Is there some sort of monitor that I can use to see what bottlenecks while I play something?Last edit: 2012-08-28 01:06:27 |
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| Ata Canada. August 28 2012 04:19. Posts 268 | Profile # |
| Just turn on hwmonitor and go play D3 for 30 minutes or until you experience a drop, then check the Max temps for CPU and gpu and report. |
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| MadJack Peru. August 28 2012 04:35. Posts 270 | Profile Blog # |
Golden rule: For players that mainly play RTS and/or MMORPG-RPG games, get a better CPU
For players that mostly play shooters and dont care that much about fps drops and want their games to be as eye candy, get a better GPU
In my experience, i had an amd system FX6100 and a 6790 performance was horrible as with yours, so i went and bought a gtx560ti, as recomended to improve performance, nothing improved, until I had enough and change my amd setup for an Intel one, with a cheab b75 motherbard, and a i5-2400 no oc. This last move brought me to 60 stable fps in any game, like wow sc2 and d3, obviously not with the best settings but very close to that. I dont play shooters or either desperate for eye candy graphics, so for me the difference between the 6790 and 560ti in terms of performance, was a waste of money, but i kept the 560ti to be future proof i guess.
If you want the best graphics while good performance you should be getting an i7 2600k/i7 3770k processor with a gtx 670/680 gpu.
For the cheapest set up possible use mine a i5 2400 + 560ti, or if u have a lil more money an i5-2500k/i5 3570k + cooler and oc to 4.0ghz its the best gaming cpu for price/performance.
Notes: i3i5i7 Ivy bridge processors (3xxx) heat a lot so you def need an aftermarket cooler.
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| Cyro United Kingdom. August 28 2012 06:47. Posts 5697 | Profile Blog # |
| dat cpu to 2500k/3570k/2600k/3770k or haswell |
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| Krowser Canada. August 28 2012 08:30. Posts 787 | Profile # |
| I updated the OP with HWMonitor tests |
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