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 Twinkle Toes   United States. August 28 2012 03:30. Posts 524
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57500919/perry-hall-high-school-student-shot-on-first-day-of-school-in-apparent-grudge-situation-police-say/
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Please read the report above to have a context on the discussion.

tldr: A 17-year-old student at Baltimore’s Perry Hall High School was shot on the first day of classes and taken to an area hospital, while the shooter has been apprehended by police.

Now, let's discuss a few things. Shooting incidents in the US are increasing. Let me lead you to a report on mass shooting in the US since Columbine. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9414540/A-history-of-mass-shootings-in-the-US-since-Columbine.html

Going back, just from memory, I can name a few recent shootings: the Alabama shooting by a university professor, Colorado shooting at a TDKR premier, the most recent one before this in the Empire State, the one in Arizona injuring Congressman Gliffords.

What is motivating this? Shootings have happened before, but they seem more frequent now. Or do they seem more frequent only because media is so pervasive now (tv, internet, phones) that anything can be reported in real time? Or does media contribute to this phenomenon, encouraging shooting and desensitizing the would be shooters to it, whether they intend to shoot at a random mass or to a specific person? What is your opinion?
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 SFX   United States. August 28 2012 03:34. Posts 85
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This is a bit different. Sure, it's a public shooting at a school, but it's not some guy shooting at anything that is human and not dead. It sounds like one guy wanted to murder one very specific perosn. This could have probably happened anywhere. It probably happened at a school because the shooter knew the victim would be there.
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  xrapture   United States. August 28 2012 03:35. Posts 1643Profile Blog # 
What the fuck.... I graduated from Perry Hall in 08..
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
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 BluePanther   United States. August 28 2012 03:41. Posts 2669
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Murders happen, I'm not sure how this is remotely related to Columbine type incidents...
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  CaptainCrush   United States. August 28 2012 03:48. Posts 784Profile Blog # 
They arent happening more, they are just being reported more in the news. Either that or you are noticing them more. This is a pretty classic dispute between two people, happens every single day, multiple times even in the United States.
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 MiningSchuhu   Germany. August 28 2012 03:48. Posts 52
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´"It's horrible," said Roman. "I mean, you would think the school would have better security than this, maybe metal detectors."

That is wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin why that is a bad idea.
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 heroyi   United States. August 28 2012 03:49. Posts 963
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On August 28 2012 03:41 BluePanther wrote:
Murders happen, I'm not sure how this is remotely related to Columbine type incidents...

yea...
columbine was more of a shooting spree although jocks, or anyone wearing a baseball cap, was pretty much shot while some were shown some mercy
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 green.at   Austria. August 28 2012 03:50. Posts 1439
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On August 28 2012 03:41 BluePanther wrote:
Murders happen, I'm not sure how this is remotely related to Columbine type incidents...


On the same level as people calling to ban music/games cause of stuff like this.
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 unit   United States. August 28 2012 03:50. Posts 2543
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On August 28 2012 03:35 xrapture wrote:
What the fuck.... I graduated from Perry Hall in 08..

yea, i'm pretty sure that everyone who knows Perry Hall and the area is pretty surprised
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 Xiron   Germany. August 28 2012 03:51. Posts 1153
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On August 28 2012 03:30 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What is motivating this?



Fail gun laws that grant easy access to weapons.

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 Toadily   United States. August 28 2012 03:52. Posts 791
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metal detector in schools? wtf kinda stupid argument is that
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 heroyi   United States. August 28 2012 03:53. Posts 963
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On August 28 2012 03:51 Xiron wrote:

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Fail gun laws that grant easy access to weapons.

oiii here we go again
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 Xiron   Germany. August 28 2012 03:55. Posts 1153
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On August 28 2012 03:53 heroyi wrote:

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oiii here we go again


Yea, sadly that's the foundation of all those shootings. If noone had weapons, those shootings wouldn't happen (as much).
Those crazy people are being encouraged by the media, get a weapon and go at it.
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 wussleeQ   United States. August 28 2012 03:56. Posts 1630
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Honestly, the colorado shooting and the amount of coverage it got by the media probably influenced the shootings. Speaking of
wtf type thing, the colorado shooter graduated from the same HS and lived only like 2 miles away from me (pretty upperclass neighborhood).
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 bonifaceviii   Canada. August 28 2012 03:57. Posts 2841
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People in the US have guns and, on occasion, use them to shoot one or more human beings.

Yep.
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 blade55555   United States. August 28 2012 03:59. Posts 14125
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On August 28 2012 03:55 Xiron wrote:

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Yea, sadly that's the foundation of all those shootings. If noone had weapons, those shootings wouldn't happen (as much).
Those crazy people are being encouraged by the media, get a weapon and go at it.


hahaha oh how wrong you are. When somebody wants to shoot people they find a way to get a gun. It wouldn't prevent anything but unfortunately I know no matter how hard I try there is no way for you to see reason.

As for the OP, I think it's just media being able to cover everything. There are lots of murders with guns/knifes/etc. From what it sounds like he was probably bullied by the kid is my guess which caused him to want to kill him. I know this happened at my school or almost happened but somebody turned the kid in. He was going to knife a kid (ironically he bullied me to the kid he was going to knife). If he hadn't been caught he would have done it to.

When I think of something else, something will go here
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 Zandar   Netherlands. August 28 2012 04:02. Posts 1225
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Lets allow everyone to have a gun, then be surprised people use them, then build metal detectors at schools...

I'll probably never understand the way how most people in the USA think about guns and security.
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  jdseemoreglass   United States. August 28 2012 04:02. Posts 3773Profile Blog # 
Maybe it's the entitlement mentality being bred in young people these days. You know, the "I'm entitled to have things exactly the way I want them and if society doesn't deliver for whatever reason then I'm entitled to throw a tantrum about it." Some people take that to an extreme and kill. At least my theory is better than blaming inanimate objects for trends in behavior...
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  Praetorial   United States. August 28 2012 04:02. Posts 3631Profile Blog # 

On August 28 2012 04:02 Zandar wrote:
Lets allow everyone to have a gun, then be surprised people use them, then build metal detectors at schools...

I'll probably never understand the way how most people in the USA think about guns and security.




We have these things called licenses...and ID checks...
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 Trevoc   United States. August 28 2012 04:04. Posts 145
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Shootings are going to happen until gun control is changed... but any legislator that dares brings that up will be labeled as an "enemy of the Constitution"

I should also add that if someone wants to kill someone, they'll get a gun regardless of the laws surrounding
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