| Vegeta100 United States. September 02 2012 09:14. Posts 42 | Profile # |
My pc: Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Pentium E2180 @ 2.00GHz
Conroe 65nm Technology
RAM
3.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz (5-5-5-15)
Motherboard
ASUSTek Computer INC. Leonite2 (Socket 775)
Graphics
HP w2207 (1680x1050@59Hz)
512MB GeForce 8400GS (PNY)
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
i can play sc2 at minimum but custom game i cant because i get very laggy and cant really move what advice do u guys have for me? plz dont say buy a new pc b/c i am handicap and dont have money to buy but maybe buy parts i can next month. any advice will be appreciated. |
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| Elairec United States. September 02 2012 09:35. Posts 325 | Profile # |
Before I upgraded in June, I had almost the same setup that you do. It was an E2160, but only difference was I had a 8600gt card. I could only get MAYBE 15-20fps on everything low 200/200 battles.
If you can't afford a whole new rig, but can get some parts here and there, I would start with the processor. Go to Newegg and get something that is atleast 2.4 ghz dual processor. You may only find refurbished choices, but that is up to you and if you want to spend money for that. Pretty much all of these meet your needs.
Go from there and see if you really need to upgrade your gfx card. I understand money being tight and since sc2 is mostly processor, leave the gfx alone for now.Last edit: 2012-09-02 09:42:47 |
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| Vegeta100 United States. September 02 2012 09:47. Posts 42 | Profile # | |
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| SiNKami United States. September 02 2012 10:04. Posts 1793 | Profile Blog # |
Lower your resolution, put everything on the lowest settings, and only stick to 1v1. your pc cant handle custom games with more than 2 people (you and someone else).
If you were going to buy a new cpu, might as well get a new motherboard and ram and sell what you have right now. Better yet, I think you would be better off with a new intel cpu and use its integrated gpu rather than the 8400gs.Last edit: 2012-09-02 10:08:57 |
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| Medrea September 02 2012 10:28. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
I wouldn't buy an old processor because that is just throwing money down a hole. You are gonna end up with the same problems later on. Better to save up a few hundred dollars and refresh the whole system.
You can keep things like case, drives, hard disk, and all that. A new system would only be Motherboard, RAM, processor, and GPU and you can get all of these total for around $300.Last edit: 2012-09-02 10:28:15 |
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| SiNKami United States. September 02 2012 10:43. Posts 1793 | Profile Blog # |
On September 02 2012 10:28 Medrea wrote:
I wouldn't buy an old processor because that is just throwing money down a hole. You are gonna end up with the same problems later on. Better to save up a few hundred dollars and refresh the whole system.
You can keep things like case, drives, hard disk, and all that. A new system would only be Motherboard, RAM, processor, and GPU and you can get all of these total for around $300.
he said he doesnt have much money though so an Intel IGP would be more than enough for him depending on which one it is as long as he gets a SB or IB cpu.Last edit: 2012-09-02 10:43:43 |
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| gosuzombie Canada. September 02 2012 11:28. Posts 27 | Profile # |
| use windows xp. much less heavier than 7 |
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| Vegeta100 United States. September 02 2012 12:19. Posts 42 | Profile # |
On September 02 2012 11:28 gosuzombie wrote:
use windows xp. much less heavier than 7
well i use to have xp but 1 of my brother friend had an extra window 7 so he gave it to me for free 
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| Medrea September 02 2012 13:57. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
On September 02 2012 10:43 LgNKami wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 10:28 Medrea wrote:
I wouldn't buy an old processor because that is just throwing money down a hole. You are gonna end up with the same problems later on. Better to save up a few hundred dollars and refresh the whole system.
You can keep things like case, drives, hard disk, and all that. A new system would only be Motherboard, RAM, processor, and GPU and you can get all of these total for around $300.
he said he doesnt have much money though so an Intel IGP would be more than enough for him depending on which one it is as long as he gets a SB or IB cpu.
Mmmm. Yeah ok not even $200 then.
Or an AMD APU i guess.Last edit: 2012-09-02 13:58:00 |
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| Vegeta100 United States. September 02 2012 15:14. Posts 42 | Profile # |
i was reading about amd cpu their cheap but i am reading they make alot of noise  |
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| Rollin Australia. September 02 2012 15:28. Posts 1202 | Profile # |
On September 02 2012 09:35 Elairec wrote:Before I upgraded in June, I had almost the same setup that you do. It was an E2160, but only difference was I had a 8600gt card. I could only get MAYBE 15-20fps on everything low 200/200 battles. If you can't afford a whole new rig, but can get some parts here and there, I would start with the processor. Go to Newegg and get something that is atleast 2.4 ghz dual processor. You may only find refurbished choices, but that is up to you and if you want to spend money for that. Pretty much all of these meet your needs.Go from there and see if you really need to upgrade your gfx card. I understand money being tight and since sc2 is mostly processor, leave the gfx alone for now.
Paying money for a processor from more than 5 years ago for a 20% increase in his current system is beyond retarded. There are two solutions OP, learn to play with lower settings or upgrade (to current hardware!) your system as time progresses and you get money. |
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| DarKcS Australia. September 02 2012 15:50. Posts 1181 | Profile Blog # |
No money spent on your current system will improve performance.
You need at least an 1155 chipset (i5) desktop PC >_> |
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| Eisregen Germany. September 02 2012 17:02. Posts 901 | Profile # |
On September 02 2012 15:50 DarKcS wrote:
No money spent on your current system will improve performance.
You need at least an 1155 chipset (i5) desktop PC >_>
i5? no....
Intel Celeron G530 Prozessor should already do it Oo
Costs sth like 45EUR a h61/67 mobo 4gb ram and maybe a GPU (e.g. HD6770) and be happy.
You can also save up some more for an i3-2100.
Found on newegg (dont crucify me if you may find something cheaper)
G530: 50USD
i3-2100: 120USD
Asrock ASRock H61M-DGS: 45USD
BIOSTAR H61MU3B (USB3.0): 60USD
RAM: 2x2GB G.Skill 20USD
HD6770: 110USD
So depending on your setup:
G530 without GPU and USB 3.0: 115USD
G530 with GPU and USB3.0: 240
SAme as above for the i3 2100
I3 2100 without gpu and usb3.0: 185USD
i3 2100 with GPU USB3.0: 310USD
Oh, and maybe a Rosewill 300W PSU for 30USD as I dont know your PSULast edit: 2012-09-02 17:34:42 |
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| Elairec United States. September 02 2012 17:19. Posts 325 | Profile # |
On September 02 2012 15:28 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 09:35 Elairec wrote:Before I upgraded in June, I had almost the same setup that you do. It was an E2160, but only difference was I had a 8600gt card. I could only get MAYBE 15-20fps on everything low 200/200 battles. If you can't afford a whole new rig, but can get some parts here and there, I would start with the processor. Go to Newegg and get something that is atleast 2.4 ghz dual processor. You may only find refurbished choices, but that is up to you and if you want to spend money for that. Pretty much all of these meet your needs.Go from there and see if you really need to upgrade your gfx card. I understand money being tight and since sc2 is mostly processor, leave the gfx alone for now.
Paying money for a processor from more than 5 years ago for a 20% increase in his current system is beyond retarded. There are two solutions OP, learn to play with lower settings or upgrade ( to current hardware!) your system as time progresses and you get money.
Not everyone can spare the kind of money that would make the decision less "retarded". Everyone here suggests to upgrade to current and "future proof" parts whenever someone asks for input on a build. No such thing. There is no shame in him spending 50-70 dollars for a part that he would know would be supported by his other current parts if that is all he can afford. |
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| SiNKami United States. September 02 2012 17:42. Posts 1793 | Profile Blog # |
On September 02 2012 17:02 Eisregen wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 15:50 DarKcS wrote:
No money spent on your current system will improve performance.
You need at least an 1155 chipset (i5) desktop PC >_>
i5? no.... Intel Celeron G530 Prozessor should already do it Oo Costs sth like 45EUR a h61/67 mobo 4gb ram and maybe a GPU (e.g. HD6770) and be happy. You can also save up some more for an i3-2100. Found on newegg (dont crucify me if you may find something cheaper) G530: 50USD i3-2100: 120USD Asrock ASRock H61M-DGS: 45USD BIOSTAR H61MU3B (USB3.0): 60USD RAM: 2x2GB G.Skill 20USD HD6770: 110USD So depending on your setup: G530 without GPU and USB 3.0: 115USD G530 with GPU and USB3.0: 240 SAme as above for the i3 2100 I3 2100 without gpu and usb3.0: 185USD i3 2100 with GPU USB3.0: 310USD Oh, and maybe a Rosewill 300W PSU for 30USD as I dont know your PSU
With his current situation, he would probably be better of with an i3 or i5 and using the IGP as it would perform alot better than what hes using now. |
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| Eisregen Germany. September 02 2012 18:33. Posts 901 | Profile # |
On September 02 2012 17:42 LgNKami wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 17:02 Eisregen wrote:
On September 02 2012 15:50 DarKcS wrote:
No money spent on your current system will improve performance.
You need at least an 1155 chipset (i5) desktop PC >_>
i5? no.... Intel Celeron G530 Prozessor should already do it Oo Costs sth like 45EUR a h61/67 mobo 4gb ram and maybe a GPU (e.g. HD6770) and be happy. You can also save up some more for an i3-2100. Found on newegg (dont crucify me if you may find something cheaper) G530: 50USD i3-2100: 120USD Asrock ASRock H61M-DGS: 45USD BIOSTAR H61MU3B (USB3.0): 60USD RAM: 2x2GB G.Skill 20USD HD6770: 110USD So depending on your setup: G530 without GPU and USB 3.0: 115USD G530 with GPU and USB3.0: 240 SAme as above for the i3 2100 I3 2100 without gpu and usb3.0: 185USD i3 2100 with GPU USB3.0: 310USD Oh, and maybe a Rosewill 300W PSU for 30USD as I dont know your PSU
With his current situation, he would probably be better of with an i3 or i5 and using the IGP as it would perform alot better than what hes using now.
Well, anything would be a significant upgrade over what he has right now. Guess it comes down to his budget he can save up. If he only plays SC2 he can use the IGP without problems and go for a better CPU than the G530
But I dont know how it performs in other games like BF3Last edit: 2012-09-02 18:34:41 |
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| Vegeta100 United States. September 02 2012 22:19. Posts 42 | Profile # |
On September 02 2012 17:02 Eisregen wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 15:50 DarKcS wrote:
No money spent on your current system will improve performance.
You need at least an 1155 chipset (i5) desktop PC >_>
i5? no.... Intel Celeron G530 Prozessor should already do it Oo Costs sth like 45EUR a h61/67 mobo 4gb ram and maybe a GPU (e.g. HD6770) and be happy. You can also save up some more for an i3-2100. Found on newegg (dont crucify me if you may find something cheaper) G530: 50USD i3-2100: 120USD Asrock ASRock H61M-DGS: 45USD BIOSTAR H61MU3B (USB3.0): 60USD RAM: 2x2GB G.Skill 20USD HD6770: 110USD So depending on your setup: G530 without GPU and USB 3.0: 115USD G530 with GPU and USB3.0: 240 SAme as above for the i3 2100 I3 2100 without gpu and usb3.0: 185USD i3 2100 with GPU USB3.0: 310USD Oh, and maybe a Rosewill 300W PSU for 30USD as I dont know your PSU
my psu is 300 but what a gpu b/c i am not a computer guy
also i have a question looking thru different cpu what a Unlocked Multiplier some have that . so what the different cpu that have that and other that dont have that.?
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| Vegeta100 United States. September 02 2012 23:01. Posts 42 | Profile # |
On September 02 2012 22:46 ragz_gt wrote:GPU = graphic card If you want to briefly read up on multiplier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU_multiplier but you don't need to worry about it unless you planning on overclocking.
thanks that helps and no i dont want overclocking |
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| MisterFred United States. September 03 2012 00:40. Posts 1846 | Profile # |
The basics:
StarCraft 2 needs a fast processor. In essence: more units on screen means more pathing means your processor (CPU) screams for mercy & slows down the game. Many custom games have triggers, etc, to keep track of which makes this problem worse.
Other (not StarCraft 2) games need a good video card. In essence: they don't have to calculate much but putting pretty on the screen takes graphics power (GPU).
If SC2 on low graphics is your priority, there's basically one major option for a cheap upgrade, a current-gen Pentium (other things aren't really going to help - your current computer is working fine, it's just old):
CPU - Pentium g630 ($68)
Motherboard - any cheap H61 motherboard ($50)
RAM - 2x2gb 1333mhz ram kit ($21)
Upgrade cost = roughly $140
Now with this you'll be using integrated graphics which is good enough to play StarCraft 2 smoothly on low graphics settings, but if you like to play other games as well, then you'll notice not having a graphics card.
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