| PrinceXizor United States. September 12 2012 18:40. Posts 4353 | Profile Blog # |
| Yango? do you recommend stout on sand king offlane solo? I never have used it ever for that position and hero even back when i played competitively. Last edit: 2012-09-12 18:40:13 |
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 TheYango United States. September 13 2012 00:58. Posts 15703 | Profile # |
On September 12 2012 18:40 PrinceXizor wrote:
Yango? do you recommend stout on sand king offlane solo? I never have used it ever for that position and hero even back when i played competitively.
While I don't think SK is the best off-lane solo, I don't know what you'd use as alternatives.
As a solo off-laner, you're generally trying to either a) get XP/lasthits from the lane while under harassment from 1 or more supports, and b) trying to survive kill attempts. At levels 1-4 (where Sand King's survivability is most questionable--once you've got 3rd or 4th rank Burrowstrike, it's range is much more suitable for staying alive), the effectiveness of the Stout Shield damage block for both of these purposes is unmatched. Stout block definitely outperforms gauntlets with regard to staying alive in 1v2/1v3 scenarios.
I could see you maybe starting with 4 branches + more consumables, but that'd make you significantly easier to kill, if harder to outright harass out of lane. |
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| PrinceXizor United States. September 13 2012 07:46. Posts 4353 | Profile Blog # |
| I tended to start 2 branches 1 salve 1 tango 3 clarities every time i played sand king offlane. Worked for me.. i just never needed stout when a tap of w can block around 100 damage from projectiles anyway. |
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| TheYango United States. September 13 2012 08:07. Posts 15703 | Profile # |
On September 13 2012 07:46 PrinceXizor wrote:
I tended to start 2 branches 1 salve 1 tango 3 clarities every time i played sand king offlane. Worked for me.. i just never needed stout when a tap of w can block around 100 damage from projectiles anyway.
I mean, that's assuming that the lane isn't sentried from level 1.Last edit: 2012-09-13 08:08:27 |
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| DodgySmalls Canada. September 13 2012 09:09. Posts 100 | Profile # |
| Glad to see nigma's dota2 guide, I think it's probably the best video I've seen to help explain to people what dota is who have no clue about the game. |
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| PrinceXizor United States. September 13 2012 09:28. Posts 4353 | Profile Blog # |
On September 13 2012 08:07 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 07:46 PrinceXizor wrote:
I tended to start 2 branches 1 salve 1 tango 3 clarities every time i played sand king offlane. Worked for me.. i just never needed stout when a tap of w can block around 100 damage from projectiles anyway.
I mean, that's assuming that the lane isn't sentried from level 1.
Like i said, i've never had any issues starting that way. but i'm also pretty decent of an SK. |
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| r.Evo Germany. September 13 2012 17:38. Posts 5192 | Profile # |
On September 13 2012 09:09 DodgySmalls wrote:
Glad to see nigma's dota2 guide, I think it's probably the best video I've seen to help explain to people what dota is who have no clue about the game.
Wait who what?
Do I have that added already? I don't know the name and don't recall seeing it myself. SHARE PLZ. :o |
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| SilSol Sweden. September 16 2012 01:51. Posts 2665 | Profile # |
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| cheeseosaur Australia. September 16 2012 07:51. Posts 74 | Profile # |
| Great compilation of videos thanks |
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| CrazyF1r3f0x United States. September 16 2012 09:31. Posts 1729 | Profile Blog # |
I was considering getting into DotA; though my only extended MOBA experience is with League of Legends <_<
Watching a lot of the videos and doing some reading, DotA seems a lot more difficult, but also much more deep then LoL, which I have begun to grow bored of.
So I was wondering where I can find people to play with, oh, and if anyone wants to trade 3 keys for an invite; I still need one.Last edit: 2012-09-17 10:47:13 |
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| r.Evo Germany. September 16 2012 18:14. Posts 5192 | Profile # |
| Just added links to the various miniguides Yango posted over the last few months & a imo pretty cool "tierlist" for starting heroes. That should remove one of the most frequently asked questions. |
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| DarKFoRcE Germany. September 21 2012 17:59. Posts 1125 | Profile Blog # |
| r.Evo please answer to PMs. |
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| Chronos. United States. September 21 2012 20:23. Posts 704 | Profile # |
| Thanks for all the great links, Valve just accepted me into the beta yesterday and I've been playing a ton of it since then. This stuff really helps. |
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| ICanFlyLow Sweden. September 21 2012 21:48. Posts 902 | Profile Blog # |
| ive signed up for the beta 5 months now but still no key -.- |
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| r.Evo Germany. September 21 2012 21:59. Posts 5192 | Profile # | |
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| shizaep Canada. October 10 2012 06:43. Posts 1083 | Profile Blog # |
| This is a nice little library of Dota 2 stuff here. I've just started playing and this thread has definitely been of some help to me. |
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| r.Evo Germany. October 15 2012 12:06. Posts 5192 | Profile # |
| Added the "Intended Fix List" and "Common Bugs List" to the OP. Next on my list is cleaning up the "learning dota 2"-thread in the League forum and linking it to get rid of the guys who pop into GD with "HAI I PLAYED LEAGUE WHAT U SUGGEST FOR ME?!", happens way too often for my taste. T_T |
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| sharakorr Singapore. October 15 2012 12:54. Posts 36 | Profile # |
nice compilation.
I was actually quite surprised that "Welcome to dota, you suck" by Purge was not included since this is one of the most common referenced guides to proper mindset for beginners. It also explains why a lot of common misconceptions like rushing vlads is not as effective to the overall match as it may seem.
http://www.playdota.com/guides/welcome-to-dota-you-suck
Of course playdota.com is also an excellent reference for everything dota.
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| BurningSera United Kingdom. October 25 2012 15:37. Posts 5189 | Profile Blog # |
Eh i just realize the existence of this thread, evo xD good work! I tend to skip over the stickied >_>
Yaphets have quite some videos on youtube too, thanks to some guy called lovecoqu uploaded tonnes of chinese vods. |
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| TheYango United States. November 04 2012 03:04. Posts 15703 | Profile # |
On October 25 2012 15:37 BurningSera wrote:
Yaphets have quite some videos on youtube too, thanks to some guy called lovecoqu uploaded tonnes of chinese vods.
The thing is, for someone who hasn't played either DotA 1 or DotA 2, having to learn what everything looks like in DotA 1 is a pretty immense barrier for comparatively minimal gain when you're starting out. |
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