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Season 8 Lock and new Ladder changes incoming

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 emc   United States. September 07 2012 10:10. Posts 2909
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http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012


Ladder Tier Removal

Currently not all divisions within a League are created equal. Individual divisions are actually assigned to different “tiers”, and players are assigned to tiers based on skill. This system hasn't been very transparent, making it difficult to determine your next promotion. For example, if you’re in a lower tiered Diamond division, just getting to Rank 1 doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll see a promotion soon.

With the goal of increasing transparency for ladder players, we’re removing tiers from the ladder with the commencement of 2012 Season 4. The removal of tiers from all leagues will allow players to better gauge exactly where they’re at on the ladder and how far away they are from the next league.

After this change, climbing to (for example) Rank 2 Diamond will mean that you are in the top 2% of all Diamond players, and you are very close to moving into the Master League. Similarly, Rank 50 Platinum is in the top 50% in the Platinum league, and so forth.


personally I think the ladder tier removal is a great step forward, now if they could only give us our Wins/Loss ratio back, because not seeing that isn't very transparent either.

Also taldarim has it's rocks removed at the 3rd!

edit: it literally means, rank 100 - 1 is the top %100 to %1 of your rank, bronze all the way to GM. If you are 100 bronze you are literally the worst player in the entire game, along with the other 100's that will exist. We will still have divisions and compete within our division, but it will make going up a rank, from 53 to 52, actually mean something, but it will probably take more work now. So those achievements you got for getting top 8 in your division? well that's going to be very hard to get now.

Excal_Z edit: This ladder change is going to mean that all of the leagues will now become just like Master league (except for showing losses). There will still be divisions of 100 players each, but they'll all be equal and therefore no longer apply hidden offsets. Therefore, in an ideal environment with the skill of all players evenly distributed across divisions (meaning you don't have Division 1 with all GSL Code S players and Division 2 with all GSL Code B players) and as long as everyone is spending all their bonus pool, what Blizzard says is accurate: rank 1 would roughly equate to the top 1% of the league.

Incidentally, this is going to make sites like SC2Ranks far more accurate as a means to gauge how you rank among the rest of your league.

Note that promotions will still be determined by MMR, the removal of division tiers only affects the points that are displayed in divisional rankings.
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take what i say with a grain of salt, make your own decisions and form your own opinions
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 GolemMadness   Canada. September 07 2012 10:13. Posts 4896
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That tier thing sounds really dumb; glad it's being removed.
 
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 NOOBALOPSE   Canada. September 07 2012 10:13. Posts 802
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Wow, nice tier removal!
Like it!
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 s3rp   Germany. September 07 2012 10:14. Posts 2796
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They should've just removed the map completely . Well won't effect me vetoed it anyway together with Condemned Ridge .
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 mec   Sweden. September 07 2012 10:15. Posts 166
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Great change
 
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 Ribbon   United States. September 07 2012 10:15. Posts 5020
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After this change, climbing to (for example) Rank 2 Diamond will mean that you are in the top 2% of all Diamond players, and you are very close to moving into the Master League. Similarly, Rank 50 Platinum is in the top 50% in the Platinum league, and so forth.


This is the way it should've worked from the beginning. I'm happy we're getting it.

I like the TA changes (because I am Zerg ), but no new 1v1 maps? Really?
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 Jakkerr   Netherlands. September 07 2012 10:16. Posts 2428
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wait... blizzard why u no fix mappool
 
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 Sajaki   Canada. September 07 2012 10:16. Posts 703
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I guess I'll be un-vetoing TDA now :D. I hope we get a new name change soon though...
 
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 Laryleprakon   New Zealand. September 07 2012 10:16. Posts 6907
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Good changes. Blizzard seems to be going in the right direction, it just takes them a long time.
 
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 emc   United States. September 07 2012 10:16. Posts 2909
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On September 07 2012 10:15 Ribbon wrote:

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This is the way it should've worked from the beginning. I'm happy we're getting it.

I like the TA changes (because I am Zerg ), but no new 1v1 maps? Really?


probably not on their to do list with HotS and all.. Also, I bet this GM will be easier to get into since I know most pros will be only playing HotS to prepare themselves.
take what i say with a grain of salt, make your own decisions and form your own opinions
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 Imbu   United States. September 07 2012 10:16. Posts 812
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Looking forward to this! It always was annoying when you were Rank 1 in your division but because it was a new group, it didn't mean anything unless you went to SC2rank or something similar.
Even though I enjoy playing Protoss, a good Terran makes my day.
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 ZeRoX-45   Serbia. September 07 2012 10:16. Posts 799
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Can someone explain me a little better what is ladder tier? My english sucks
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 StreetWise   United States. September 07 2012 10:17. Posts 513
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This is a step in the right direction. I am glad that this game is slowly reaching the level I expected at release.
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 freakhill   Japan. September 07 2012 10:17. Posts 388
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Damn, many people have been waiting for something like that for a loooong time.
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 Soda   United States. September 07 2012 10:17. Posts 63
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I'm liking this!
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 FrostedMiniWheats   United States. September 07 2012 10:17. Posts 11218
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This.is.awesome.
 
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 Atrbyg   United States. September 07 2012 10:17. Posts 495
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Happy about new system for the ladder tire removal, but I am a bit disappointed that the map pool has not changed. I was really looking forward to seeing some new maps.
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 JethroTV   United States. September 07 2012 10:18. Posts 205
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Fantastic. I never understood their desire to try and hide information about ones own standings.
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 hitpoint   United States. September 07 2012 10:19. Posts 1210
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Awesome change.
 
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 NovemberstOrm   Canada. September 07 2012 10:19. Posts 4110
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On September 07 2012 10:16 DGB.Zerok wrote:
Can someone explain me a little better what is ladder tier? My english sucks



Ladder tier means theirs different tiers in each league/division so just because you are at rank 1 in diamond you could be at a low tier division in diamond meaning you probably won't be promoted just because of that. This change will make it easier to tell where you are in terms of skill and whether you will be promoted or not.
"Terran is the hardest race to play but if played to its fullest potiental they are the best" I love Starcraft.
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