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 Gojira621   United States. September 09 2012 03:14. Posts 274
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On September 09 2012 02:18 ChoboDane wrote:

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no the quality of games will be better because these two players are way way way way way better than anyone outside of Korea. and no I dont understand this fanbase and fan interest thing. Why would you root for the inferior players?


Ask any sports fan who cheers for a team/player that doesn't win 100% of their games. Cheering only for winners is boring and seems stupid. Also there are lots of great players outside Korea that I doubt Life and Creator have played before so I find it hard to take that seriously.
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 ChoboDane   Denmark. September 09 2012 03:26. Posts 98
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On September 09 2012 03:14 Gojira621 wrote:

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Ask any sports fan who cheers for a team/player that doesn't win 100% of their games. Cheering only for winners is boring and seems stupid. Also there are lots of great players outside Korea that I doubt Life and Creator have played before so I find it hard to take that seriously.

you would be a fool to argue Creator and Life arent leagues above any foreigner.
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 thegeek574   United States. September 09 2012 03:29. Posts 20
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Won't be able to watch becuase my DSL Modem is dying and can't get streaming speeds D: Oh well. Good luck to both.
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 ellirc   Sweden. September 09 2012 03:42. Posts 3280
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On September 09 2012 02:18 ChoboDane wrote:

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no the quality of games will be better because these two players are way way way way way better than anyone outside of Korea. and no I dont understand this fanbase and fan interest thing. Why would you root for the inferior players?

You seem to have a major misunderstanding on how sports works. It doesn't actually matter if the games are shit. If the teams(or players in this case) have fans it will be a big deal anyway. It's almost journalists only that watch football games or hockey and say "amagad that was an amazing game". If Man U and Chelsea had NO fans and were about to encounter in a match in CL, do you think it'd be a big deal? The FANS are everything. Therefore I say that this TSL is a total failure. I know there is a lot of money on the line. I know a lot of players tried to qualify. I also know that basically nobody is going to watch the finals. Why? Go figure...
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 ChoboDane   Denmark. September 09 2012 03:45. Posts 98
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On September 09 2012 03:42 ellirc wrote:

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You seem to have a major misunderstanding on how sports works. It doesn't actually matter if the games are shit. If the teams(or players in this case) have fans it will be a big deal anyway. It's almost journalists only that watch football games or hockey and say "amagad that was an amazing game". If Man U and Chelsea had NO fans and were about to encounter in a match in CL, do you think it'd be a big deal? The FANS are everything. Therefore I say that this TSL is a total failure. I know there is a lot of money on the line. I know a lot of players tried to qualify. I also know that basically nobody is going to watch the finals. Why? Go figure...

Who cares if random noobs watch or not?
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 ellirc   Sweden. September 09 2012 03:53. Posts 3280
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Who cares if random noobs watch or not?

All of esports..? That's the whole point.
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 Gojira621   United States. September 09 2012 04:17. Posts 274
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Who cares if random noobs watch or not?


obviously our arguments have flown right over your head so I'm done trying.
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 Talin   Montenegro. September 09 2012 04:45. Posts 8183
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On September 09 2012 01:52 ChoboDane wrote:
I cant believe people who would have preferred to see a foreigner in the final. Dont you guys like quality games?


We get exposure to quality higher-than-foreign-level games on daily basis, even 24/7 if you're counting streams. They're not that much of a commodity any more.
 
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 sorrowptoss   Canada. September 09 2012 04:59. Posts 999
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Life is going to meet his maker... if you know what I mean.

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  Kronborg   September 09 2012 05:44. Posts 11Profile # 

On September 09 2012 04:45 Talin wrote:

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We get exposure to quality higher-than-foreign-level games on daily basis, even 24/7 if you're counting streams. They're not that much of a commodity any more.

It's a rarity that players as good as Life and Creator stream.
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 Wrath 2.1   Germany. September 09 2012 05:51. Posts 565
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I hope TSL5 ( and wish it come!) is like TSL 2 and 3. Both were incredibly awesome. And for the me the highest tier of tournaments.

because I moved in a foreign city and didn't have internet I travled 2 houres to the company of my father only to download the latest tsl2 games. It felt completly worth it, I never question that.
TSL3 I watched very game life (coz I finally had inet).

So epic tournaments. The Idra game, the Mondragon action, The Thorzaine fighting. That only in TSL3. TSL2 with Mondragons walk through and the idra tyler rage game.. oh man.

If Koreans are that much stronger I think TSL4 should be like TSL2 a foreign tournament. That would be so amazing!
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 Shakattak   Canada. September 09 2012 06:23. Posts 911
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On September 09 2012 01:58 Gojira621 wrote:

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so if it's a korean player, the quality of games will always be better? Perhaps you don't understand how fanbase and fan interest works. People want to watch players they can relate to, players who have storylines, and generally players who have established themselves as big names. Life and Creator, while currently making names for themselves, haven't really done so to this point (the WCS win for Creator is pretty awesome though). Considering TSL was traditionally about getting big name non-koreans to dish it out and create some fun/exciting storylines, this is kind of the opposite. It just feels like a regular GSL match


So just say that FlaSh and Jaedong qualified and went to the finals and met each other in the finals. I bet no one would be bitching at all. They have story lines and fan base but they didn't start out that way these are great player let them build their legacy just cause its a Korean doesn't take away from the games at all . It almost seems like people are segregating players and not showing interests in games because people are KOREAN and not foreigner . It's sad .
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 Shakattak   Canada. September 09 2012 06:24. Posts 911
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On September 09 2012 05:51 Wrath 2.1 wrote:
I hope TSL5 ( and wish it come!) is like TSL 2 and 3. Both were incredibly awesome. And for the me the highest tier of tournaments.

because I moved in a foreign city and didn't have internet I travled 2 houres to the company of my father only to download the latest tsl2 games. It felt completly worth it, I never question that.
TSL3 I watched very game life (coz I finally had inet).

So epic tournaments. The Idra game, the Mondragon action, The Thorzaine fighting. That only in TSL3. TSL2 with Mondragons walk through and the idra tyler rage game.. oh man.

If Koreans are that much stronger I think TSL4 should be like TSL2 a foreign tournament. That would be so amazing!

This is what I am talkin about
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 Shakattak   Canada. September 09 2012 06:28. Posts 911
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I like watching foreigners don't get me wrong but was anyone who really loved broodwar any less interested in it cause Koreans won all the time ? Cause they actually gave a shit ? FlaSh and JaeDong , Boxer and Yellow etc etc were some of the best rivalries in eSports they were Korean and no one sAid they wouldn't watch tournaments they played in?
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 arb   Noobville. September 09 2012 07:46. Posts 11091
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On September 09 2012 06:24 Shakattak wrote:

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This is what I am talkin about

I dont know why theres no mention of TSL 1 in this. so lost. (EASILY, the best TSL imo).
The reason these arent exclusive to foreigners is because in BroodWar, koreans were so far ahead it would have literally been a complete stomp out(as in maybe 1 game dropped to non koreans the entire time) In SC2, i think the gap may be getting there but it's def not there yet, so no need to be foreign only
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 Gojira621   United States. September 09 2012 13:46. Posts 274
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On September 09 2012 06:23 Shakattak wrote:

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So just say that FlaSh and Jaedong qualified and went to the finals and met each other in the finals. I bet no one would be bitching at all. They have story lines and fan base but they didn't start out that way these are great player let them build their legacy just cause its a Korean doesn't take away from the games at all . It almost seems like people are segregating players and not showing interests in games because people are KOREAN and not foreigner . It's sad .


my post pretty much agrees with everything you're saying so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously Flash and Jaedong playing would be huge because its...Flash and Jaedong. They have huge fanbases and we would all love to see it. Creator is sort of a newcomer on the international scene and same with Life since they haven't played in many big tournaments outside Korea that i can think of. I never said all koreans shouldn't get interest in their games. There are a ton of koreans who have built up huge fanbases throughout the sc2 era, and people have fallen in love with their personalities, i.e. MC, marineking, MVP, Nestea, DongRaeGu i could go on and on.
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 Shakattak   Canada. September 10 2012 14:42. Posts 911
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On September 09 2012 13:46 Gojira621 wrote:

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my post pretty much agrees with everything you're saying so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously Flash and Jaedong playing would be huge because its...Flash and Jaedong. They have huge fanbases and we would all love to see it. Creator is sort of a newcomer on the international scene and same with Life since they haven't played in many big tournaments outside Korea that i can think of. I never said all koreans shouldn't get interest in their games. There are a ton of koreans who have built up huge fanbases throughout the sc2 era, and people have fallen in love with their personalities, i.e. MC, marineking, MVP, Nestea, DongRaeGu i could go on and on.


No what I'm saying is that these newer players are gonna be the new Flashes and jaedongs of their era it's nice to see them make progress , peoPle need to see Korean players as players more then "oh another Korean /ignore"
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 Talin   Montenegro. September 10 2012 15:29. Posts 8183
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On September 10 2012 14:42 Shakattak wrote:

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No what I'm saying is that these newer players are gonna be the new Flashes and jaedongs of their era



Somehow I doubt that. Some players will be the Flashes and Jaedongs of their era, but it won't be these two.
 
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 opterown  *   Australia. September 10 2012 15:52. Posts 27720
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On September 10 2012 15:29 Talin wrote:

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Somehow I doubt that. Some players will be the Flashes and Jaedongs of their era, but it won't be these two.

hahaha, you're quite the creator hater, aye.
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 Shakattak   Canada. September 14 2012 03:01. Posts 911
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On September 10 2012 15:29 Talin wrote:

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Somehow I doubt that. Some players will be the Flashes and Jaedongs of their era, but it won't be these two.

He is 16 life is 15 , these guys are
Young and full of skill and talent
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