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Pro-China, Anti-Japan Protests

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 Shady Sands   United States. September 16 2012 05:54. Posts 3592
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Update #8:
Chinese government officially calling for negotiations

Japanese netizens stage counterprotest at Chinese Embassy in Tokyo

Friend who was pranked is ok, according to other friend


He got roughed up a little and pushed down a flight of stairs, but other than that he's fine




Update #7: Koreans side with Chinese on Diaoyu Islands issue

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Thousands of fishing boats are leaving Chinese harbors to converge on and occupy the waters around the Diaoyu Islands. They will be backed by several helicopter patrol ships of the Chinese coast guard.




Update #6: One expat friend in Beijing just told me about a prank he played on his fellow English teacher/tutor:


--So he got really drunk, and we ended up tying a Japanese headband on him
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--And dressing him in a white T-shirt that read
--"天皇陛下萬歲" (Tenno Heika Banzai, or ten thousand years to the Japanese Emperor) with a huge Japanese flag on the front of the shirt
--Then we turned him loose in the late night drunken crowds up by Sanlitun, near the Japanese Embassy
--He didn't show up for work today




Update #5: Protests continuing; now images have made front page of reddit lol.

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Some employees at an Audi dealership hold up a banner that reads "Even if China is full of graves, we need to kill every last Japanese; even if China is turned into a wasteland, it will not stop us from reclaiming the Diaoyu Islands"


Sora Aoi tries and fails to make a dent in the anti-Japan steamroller: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/09/japanese-porn-star-tries-fails-to-repair-japanese-chinese-tensions/262415/



Update #4: The phrase "Anti-Japan protests" has been blocked on Sina Weibo (China's version of Twitter)

Some Japanese citizens have reported assaults while in Shanghai







Update #3: Newly appointed Japanese ambassador to China dies of illness

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/16/japan-china-envoy-idUSL3E8KG07F20120916

Police in Shenzhen are using tear gas and water cannons to disperse crowds of "thousands"

Arson confirmed at Panasonic factory and Toyota dealership in Qingdao

Losses nationwide estimated at 2.95B RMB (approx 400M USD)





Update #2: Banners being put up at numerous shopping centers and retail establishments saying "no Japanese or dogs allowed"

University PA systems broadcasting anti-Japanese messages across campus every morning as part of daily announcements

13 Japanese-run/owned factories across China have reported break-ins, large amounts of inventory theft and some sabotage to assembly lines

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Six Chinese patrol vessels enter coastal waters of Diaoyu Islands/Senkakus



Update: From friend at inland Chinese university: "mechanical engineering department just sent out a mass text message urging everyone to enter the advanced materials courses for the next year, to 'learn how to protect Chinese honor by building weapons to exterminate the Japanese.'"

From friend in Dalian: "Local businesses giving away buckets of red paint and eggs to toss at Japanese consulate; one real estate developer is offering 10,000 RMB to anyone who hits a Japanese diplomatic staff member with an egg"



Before you read further, here is some perspective from Kwark:


On September 16 2012 06:21 KwarK wrote:
To be honest learning about Japanese conduct in world war two and the lack of a national self examining in the wake of the second world war kind of justifies anti-Japanese feelings. Imperial Japan was a diseased nation, akin to 1930s Germany, the difference is that Germany has swallowed its pride and learned to accept and learn from its past whereas Japan preferred self pity and denial.

I don't require the Japanese descendants of the war criminals to atone any more than I would ask the German descendants of Nazis to atone. However accepting their shameful history and showing an awareness of the suffering their ancestors caused would help ease the tensions. Only a month ago two Japanese ministers visited a shrine honouring fourteen Class A war criminals.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-15/shrine/4200304

Violent protests are always wrong but anti-Japanese sentiment is not without its justifications.




Apparently there are quite a few protests happening in China against Japan right now. These protests have spread across numerous Chinese cities in recent days, with minimal police interference.



The protests, like most that get out of hand, result in property damage--especially against visible symbols of Japan, like their cars and Japanese restaurants in China.

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A Japanese-brand police car overturned and smashed by protesters with a metal rod during an anti-Japan protest in Shenzhen, Guangdong province, August 19, 2012.


So what to do if you have a Japanese car or own a Japanese-themed business? Here is a montage of how Chinese citizens are protecting their property during these turbulent times:

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“The Car Is A Japanese Car; The Heart Is A Chinese Heart”,“Diaoyu Islands Belong to China Only
Sora Aoi (the most popular Japanese porn star in China) belongs to the world.”

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“Boycott Japanese Products”, “Paralyze Japanese Economy” , “I Bought the Car First, Before Japan Got Bitchy. From Now On, Boycott Japanese Goods”
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Japanese Yakitori restaurant removing the characters for "Japan" from its sign.
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We are a Hong Kong-funded business


Read more here:

http://www.ministryoftofu.com/2012/09/chinese-businesses-car-owners-play-nationalist-card-to-appeal-to-japan-haters-and-avoid-violence/
Last edit: 2012-09-23 15:12:50
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 EtherealDeath   United States. September 16 2012 05:56. Posts 8158
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Uhhh is that overturned police car photoshopped or why is it so fucking big compared to the person smashing it.

edit - Cause that's a CRV, and I may be just 5'6", but I sure as hell am nowhere near that size compared to the CRV... so that guy would have to be astonishingly small, though facial features when zoomed in almost suggest a kid. But still looks fucking weird.
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 Nanikure   United States. September 16 2012 05:57. Posts 50
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This nationalism shit is honestly getting on my fucking nerves.
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  Grettin   September 16 2012 05:58. Posts 20589Profile # 
Ah, this is what my Korean friend was telling me about. I assume this is about the islands?
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 Roe   Canada. September 16 2012 05:58. Posts 5147
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Was there some kind of catalyst for this? I know China and Japan have a long history, but this seems kind of random.
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 Maxie   Sweden. September 16 2012 05:59. Posts 1573
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Yeah, what made this happen?
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 Nanikure   United States. September 16 2012 05:59. Posts 50
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On September 16 2012 05:58 Roe wrote:
Was there some kind of catalyst for this? I know China and Japan have a long history, but this seems kind of random.


Japan just purchased the Senkaku islands from it's previous Japanese owner. However, China claims the islands belong to them. I think Taiwan does as well.
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 SHOOG   United States. September 16 2012 06:00. Posts 1343
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On September 16 2012 05:56 EtherealDeath wrote:
Uhhh is that overturned police car photoshopped or why is it so fucking big compared to the person smashing it.


I'm pretty sure it's just the angle of the photo.

But this is getting pretty bad.
It seems like there is so much more negativity in that part of the world right now.
It sucks seeing all these protests and violence occur.
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 sharkie   Austria. September 16 2012 06:00. Posts 2181
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what will the Chinese do if someone tells them pretty much all their technological know-how is based on Japanese technology lol?

Destroy everything?
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 SneakyAZN   United States. September 16 2012 06:01. Posts 164
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On September 16 2012 05:59 Nanikure wrote:

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Japan just purchased the Senkaku islands from it's previous Japanese owner. However, China claims the islands belong to them. I think Taiwan does as well.


Basically, the whole islands being purchased, and the dispute on who really owns them in the first palce

source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19540469
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 starfries   Canada. September 16 2012 06:02. Posts 2617
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I wonder how much government involvement there is... maybe some of these riots were incited deliberately?
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 Holgerius   Sweden. September 16 2012 06:03. Posts 16798
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Stuff like this makes me so negative regarding the future of our species.
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 WTFZerg   United States. September 16 2012 06:04. Posts 651
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On September 16 2012 06:01 SneakyAZN wrote:

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Basically, the whole islands being purchased, and the dispute on who really owns them in the first palce

source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19540469


Weren't those islands taken by Japan in WW2?

edit: apparently they were claimed by Japan in the first Sino-Japanese war and then were handed over to the US as part of the San Francisco treaty, and then given back to Japan in 1971.

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 sekritzzz   September 16 2012 06:04. Posts 1257
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On September 16 2012 05:58 Roe wrote:
Was there some kind of catalyst for this? I know China and Japan have a long history, but this seems kind of random.

Its been going on for a while, theres multiple disputes going on and multiple is an understatement. OP add this to your post if you'd like. Its a good summary, especially the picture at the 1:47 minute mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4vcl2X4sKcM
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  AgniKai   September 16 2012 06:05. Posts 70Profile # 
This is how it's always been. Nationalism always leads to this kind of stupidity.
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 Fantaisie   Sweden. September 16 2012 06:08. Posts 6
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So much hatred. I don't understand this.
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 TehPrime   United States. September 16 2012 06:10. Posts 180
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On September 16 2012 06:08 Fantaisie wrote:
So much hatred. I don't understand this.

Considering fact that you probably don't understand the history between these two countries, you wouldn't understand the hatred between China and japan.
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 Xiphos   Canada. September 16 2012 06:10. Posts 5732
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I find this piece of event to be quite humorous.
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 Spektor   United States. September 16 2012 06:11. Posts 810
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I am not understanding all of this rioting--not protests, this is all bad. Did everyone decide to take riot pills lately. Protest is fine, but all of this world's old grudges are coming out lately.


On September 16 2012 06:03 Holgerius wrote:
Stuff like this makes me so negative regarding the future of our species.


Same thoughts here. Humans are apocalyptic; makes me rethink the importance of what we hold on to, whether physical or in our minds.
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 AngryMag   Germany. September 16 2012 06:11. Posts 639
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On September 16 2012 06:08 Fantaisie wrote:
So much hatred. I don't understand this.


anti japanese sentiment in today's China largely stems from the second japanese chinese war in the 30's and 40's in the last century
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