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 Enders116   United States. September 16 2012 13:09. Posts 548
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Ok guys, so basically where I'm living now has a spectacular internet connection, but no way to really consolidate it into a solid land-line internet connection.

I know of a third party piece of hardware I could buy that is capable of turning a WLAN connection into a LAN connection, but I forget what its called and I also forget which brand is the best one to go with. So if you guys could direct me to that, I would be more than happy to know what it is called, and even more thankful if you could show me one that is "economical" because my stream tends to show up a bit fuzzy even though I stream at 1920x1080 resolution and 30 FPS.

Basically, here's what I know the function of the device entails:

Model 1 (forced WLAN, no 3rd party device, thus what I am currently using) - Wifi waves get send out, data is streamed insecurely and with potential instability to and from my PC.

Model 2 (WLAN "exploiter" which is what I want) - Plugs in to a typical electrical outlet in any wall, ethernet plugs directly into said "exploiter", and from there directly to a PC or laptop. The plug into the electrical outlet re-routes the internet connection from outlet to wherever the wirelss hub is located, thus "exploiting" it as a wired connection

Any help guys?
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 Myrmidon   United States. September 16 2012 13:21. Posts 8496
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I'm having a hard time guessing what you're talking about. You currently have some kind of wireless access point or "wireless router" (aka a router with integrated access point)?

Model 1 sounds just like a normal wireless connection to an access point. The client device is connected over the air over Wi-Fi (which is IEEE 802.11 group of standards; in a WLAN). I guess you don't like having the computer connected over this wireless connection? If there's no interference or nearby wireless networks, even older Wi-Fi standards can support 1080p streaming easily.

Model 2 seems like you don't want to use any wireless connection at all? If you're talking about getting a network connection through the electrical outlet, that's done through a powerline network adapter. Those should work okay with most home electrical wiring. Plug the other side into your router and one side to your computer (generally both via Ethernet). Maybe I misunderstand; none of this involves WLAN or exploiting.
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 TheAmazombie   United States. September 16 2012 13:29. Posts 3643
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On September 16 2012 13:21 Myrmidon wrote:
I'm having a hard time guessing what you're talking about. You currently have some kind of wireless access point or "wireless router" (aka a router with integrated access point)?

Model 1 sounds just like a normal wireless connection to an access point. The client device is connected over the air over Wi-Fi (which is IEEE 802.11 group of standards; in a WLAN). I guess you don't like having the computer connected over this wireless connection? If there's no interference or nearby wireless networks, even older Wi-Fi standards can support 1080p streaming easily.

Model 2 seems like you don't want to use any wireless connection at all? If you're talking about getting a network connection through the electrical outlet, that's done through a powerline network adapter. Those should work okay with most home electrical wiring. Plug the other side into your router and one side to your computer (generally both via Ethernet). Maybe I misunderstand; none of this involves WLAN or exploiting.


This. I am also a bit confused. Are you asking about powerline network adapters? They are not very expensive or hard to set up, but I am not sure what kind of router/connection you are using now. Is it like a shared wireless, do you have access to connect something like a powerline adapter? You generally have to connect the router to one end of the adapter, then you can use the other to run wired connection, so therefore in order to use most of these devices, you have to be able to conenct it to the router, hence why I m asking. They also tend to follow the "300 foot" rule of Ethernet, so the router still has to be within that distance away from what you are networking.

http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=1194444

...but on that note, I stream constantly in HD over my built in wireless PCI card on my machine. I can't imagine that it is a wireless issue if you have good speed and a good adapter. We have also used at my work some of the Symbol brand wireless receivers. It is a box that connects to the computer (Ethernet) and the box acts as the connection to the wireless network, supports various boots and everything, the computer thinks you are wired. I am not sure if something like that will help...

http://www.techforless.com/cgi-bin/tech4less/CB30000010WWR?mv_pc=nextag&tts=20120915202027

Also, pertaining to this:


Model 1 (forced WLAN, no 3rd party device, thus what I am currently using) - Wifi waves get send out, data is streamed insecurely and with potential instability to and from my PC.


While I am a huge wired advocate over wireless, it is mostly due to comfort factor. Wired can be just as unsafe and unstable as wireless. It all depends on why type of security and encryption steps you are using. I prefer wired myself, but truthfully a good wireless campus has very little to worry about with these factors.
Last edit: 2012-09-16 18:36:20
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 TheToast   United States. September 16 2012 13:51. Posts 4804
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On September 16 2012 13:09 Enders116 wrote:
Ok guys, so basically where I'm living now has a spectacular internet connection, but no way to really consolidate it into a solid land-line internet connection.


What in the world would be the point of this? Even if the connection is going from WiFi to ethernet, you're still capped at whatever the maximum connection speed of the wifi is. If the wifi isn't sufficient to stream through, converting that to an ethernet connection won't make any difference. Not to mention that wifi USB adapters cost like nothing these days. Unless the spot that your desktop is sitting has a terrible connection to the wifi this whole thing is a complete waste of money.


Model 2 (WLAN "exploiter" which is what I want) - Plugs in to a typical electrical outlet in any wall, ethernet plugs directly into said "exploiter", and from there directly to a PC or laptop. The plug into the electrical outlet re-routes the internet connection from outlet to wherever the wirelss hub is located, thus "exploiting" it as a wired connection



You can run ethernet over power, that is an accepted IEEE standard, but unless you have a 10/100 ethernet router at the other end it makes no difference at all. Not only that, but even if you had a wired router running ethernet cable is ezpz and would be by far the more preferable solution.
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 Holy_AT   Austria. September 16 2012 17:33. Posts 685
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What are you meaning ?
Yes there are some sort of routers that can transmit lan signals from a router to the power system of a house, but this router also has to be connected to the internet through some gateway. It does not send signals from your house to anywhere else through powerlines. There is no exploiter, who told you this bullshit ?
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 cari-kira   Germany. September 16 2012 18:30. Posts 632
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just wait until he comes back and tells us about his hardware and what he wants to connect with what.
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 SkullXbones   United States. September 16 2012 18:48. Posts 57
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I think you mean something like this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122329
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 Mysticesper   United States. September 16 2012 19:00. Posts 911
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On September 16 2012 17:33 Holy_AT wrote:
What are you meaning ?
Yes there are some sort of routers that can transmit lan signals from a router to the power system of a house, but this router also has to be connected to the internet through some gateway. It does not send signals from your house to anywhere else through powerlines. There is no exploiter, who told you this bullshit ?


Considering his location, some words get translated oddly. In more proper english: He is looking to exploit the building's power outlets for network purposes. Where the engrish comes in: an "exploiter" is a noun for something that "exploits"

But yeah, a powerline adapter is definitely what #2 is. Plug Side A into the outlet next to the wireless hub and use an ethernet cable into one of the ports in the back of the wireless hub. Then plug side B in the outlet where your computer is and use an ethernet cable into your computer.


You can run ethernet over power, that is an accepted IEEE standard, but unless you have a 10/100 ethernet router at the other end it makes no difference at all. Not only that, but even if you had a wired router running ethernet cable is ezpz and would be by far the more preferable solution.


Yes/no. In a single room, sure. In a large building, unless you are able to run it through walls (not easy), you don't want dozens of feet of cable running around. If you have stairs involved, this creates a tripping hazard, even if you have to use copious amounts of tape to keep it on the floor, or staples, or whatever. In a shared building, this is even less desireable. Most wireless things have ethernet in the back of them, so it shouldn't be an issue. It's still good to double check anyway.
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 Bobbias   Canada. September 16 2012 21:00. Posts 1013
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It looks like what he's concerned about is his stream for SC2 looking fuzzy despite being 1080. that, and concerns about the security of wireless vs a wired connection. Buying any sort of adapter would help neither one of those problems anyway.

Enders116, if your stream looks fuzzy at 1080, it's because your stream quality settings are low. Just because you stream 1080 doesn't mean your stream looks good. If you set the quality low enough, you could get a 1080 stream that looks worse than a 480 stream.

You need to learn the settings, learn about video encoding (anyone who streams SHOULD learn about video encoding!) and turn up your settings.

Also, even if you used an "exploiter" as you call it, that would not make the connection any safer. If the only access you have is WLAN, installing the "exploiter" would make your LAN connection to the "exploiter" secure, but anything between the exploiter and the access point would still be WLAN, and not secure.

However, if the WLAN has a password, it is secure enough that you shouldn't worry. Only someone with time on their hands and enough knowledge to break in would be able to, and if someone wanted to hack you, being on LAN would not really be any more secure from them.
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 Enders116   United States. September 16 2012 21:32. Posts 548
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Sorry about that, I was extremely sleepy when I made this post last night. Um, basically this is what I was looking for, I found it through what the Amazombie posted.

http://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-TL-PA211-STARTER-KIT/dp/B0055XKBW4/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1347798525&sr=1-4
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 Detri   United Kingdom. September 17 2012 02:09. Posts 531
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I use a belkin powerline and would recommend it to anyone wanting to dump their wireless connection. Even with a beast wireless network card and N wireless I was getting dropped out of games off battle.net randomly, no problems since I spent the cash on the adapter. I expected to have a higher latency with it but its a really solid and much more stable than I anticipated.
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