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[Code S Ro8] TaeJa vs Leenock, MKP vs Life

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Code S Ro8: TaeJa vs Leenock Preview


By: Fionn



  • (T)Liquid`TaeJa

    Strengths
    – Strongest match-up is TvZ.
    – Now has the experience capable of going farther in the tournament.
    – The Liquid Advantage.

    Weaknesses
    – Has a knack for losing in the GSL Ro8.
    – There might be too much pressure on him .
    – All the traveling across the world might hurt him like others in the past.

    Ideal winning scenario: Taeja does what he said he would do, dispatch of Leenock in a 3-0 score, get over his Ro8 curse, and continue his road to his first GSL finals.

    Craziest winning scenario: We couldn't actually come up with anything. Would you be surprised by anything TaeJa does?
  • (Z)FXOLeenock

    Strengths
    – Former GSL finalist who knows how to play GSL elimination rounds.
    – Strong in TvZ, and is the only player to stop Mvp in a GSL semifinal.
    – Would probably win in a fist fight against Taeja.

    Weaknesses
    – Has been inconsistent for much of 2012
    – Sometimes is a bit too unorthodox for his own good
    – Does not have The Liquid Advantage

    Ideal winning scenario: Simply wins. He is not the favorite now, but if he takes down Taeja by any scoreline, it will make him more than likely the favorite to make it to his second GSL finals.

    Craziest winning scenario: Back-and-forth series, comes down to the final map on Daybreak, and Leenock goes for an early pool to win the series to simply watch the world burn around him.



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Leenock: Knocking for Respect

When he first burst onto the scene, it was all about his age. Aw, look at the cute little kid playing Starcraft 2 and beating people twice his age. Now, almost like a child star who is losing his adorable looks and has to learn to act for real, Leenock's age is no longer a point when talking about (Editor's note: he's still adorable, though). Life, Creator, and Maru are the new kids on the block with the added hype due to their young age. So what does that make Leenock?

The best Zerg in GSL history to never actually win the tournament.

One of the most consistent, great players in GSL history.

The Zerg with the most wins in GSL history, including his stellar GSTL results.

Unlike most child stars that grow up and burn out when people realize that they're not cute anymore, Leenock has stood the test of time and even gotten better with age. Getting through players such as Parting, Squirtle and Hero in the first two rounds, he has taken the match-up everyone thought he was weakest at, ZvP, and turned it around into possibly his strongest.

While ZvT isn't statistically his strongest match-up (ZvZ is), it is the match-up that has made him a star. From his two legendary two against Mvp in the GSL that they split, to the final against jjakji that turned what looked to be one of the least hyped finals of all-time into one of the best (if not the best), final in the history of Starcraft 2. Even if he was the favorite against jjakji and lost in six games, he still came earning a ton of respect for showing games that no one would ever forget. Throughout his entire career, Leenock might have shown the best series and games of any Zerg in the world.

But that isn't enough. For Leenock, he has all the accolades that could put him in the top three Zerg of all-time along with the now out of GSL Nestea and OSL semifinalist DongRaeGu. He has two MLG championship titles, a GSTL championship, and is only missing the GSL from his resume to push him maybe into the conversation of best Zerg in the history of Wings of Liberty.

He is not favored against Taeja, but Leenock usually does better when he is the underdog. Going through the open bracket at MLG Providence at the end of last year, Leenock got to the finals against Naniwa and took the title from him when no one had him on their radar on day one. During GSL November, he was in the semifinals against Mvp, a player who was impossible to stop in the knockout rounds of GSL, but was able to beat him in an iconic GSL series. It wasn't any surprise he won his second MLG title AFTER doing poorly enough in previous MLGs to lose his seeding, and was forced fight his way up from the bottom of the open bracket one more time.

Taeja might be getting all the hype now, people already preparing his crown and throne, wanting to anoint him the best in the wold, but Leenock will not be disrespected. Taeja might have won big foreign tournaments, but Leenock has as well. You can talk about Symbol, Life, DRG, and Nestea all you like, but if you take your eye off Leenock for a split second, he'll knock you out.

Taeja can get all the hype he likes. All Leenock wants is another chance at glory in the finals. This time, he's older, more experienced, and ready to become a champion.

Taeja: The Best in the World (?)

He got decimated by Rain 2-0 in the Ro16, but he's still the favorite in the minds of the community. He has never gotten out of the Ro8, something that his opponent in the quarterfinals has done, but he's still the heavy favorite to win. It's unfair that Taeja has all this pressure on him to win now or he's automatically overrated, but with his results in foreign tournaments and how well he's done for his team in team league, people are expecting to see him on October 20th, kissing the trophy, and having his teammates hold him in the air while Nazgul sprays him with congratulatory champagne.

The story of Taeja is one of the strangest in Starcraft 2. You have to remember that at the end of 2011, Taeja wasn't even in the top four most recognizable players on Slayers. Actually, he wasn't even in the top four most recognizable Terrans on the team, being overshadowed by MMA, Ryung, Boxer and Ganzi. He might have made it Code S once, losing to DRG and Polt immediately and getting bounced to Code A, and done well in GSTL, all-killing his former team ZeNex, but Taeja was still in the back of the line when it came to Terran hierarchy.

After finally saying enough was enough and that he needed to get more opportunities, Taeja left Slayers and looked for a foreign team to take him to the next level. Only one team wanted to take a chance on Taeja, that being Team Liquid, and that became the best decision the team had ever made. Picking up Taeja right when he was entering his second stint in Code S, Liquid watched their new player bloom from fifth on the SlayerS Terran depth chart to a player who would become one of the most popular players in the world.

While MMA has gone into a slump, Ganzi has gone down with injuries, Boxer quit playing and joined SKT as a coach, and Ryung...is still, you know, forgotten, Taeja has come into his own and become the best player on Liquid. Winning a major tournament in both Europe and North America, all he needs left is a title in Korea to become one of the few to win the Starcraft 2 Triple Crown. Being the favorite, having fifty times the fan base you used to, and getting called the best player in the world might be nice, but Taeja even admits that he needs to win a GSL before he can even be called the best Terran.

The stage is set for him to prove this. First off, he has Leenock, the Zerg with the most wins in GSL history, and a player who has beaten the best Terrans in the world. If Taeja can finally break his quarterfinal curse and make his third times the charm, he'll either have to go up against a three-time silver medalist in MarineKing, or Life, the player with the best record in GSL this season with only one dropped map. If he can get through his side of the bracket and get into the finals, he'll either face Rain, the only player to beat him in the tournament, or the four-time champion Mvp, giving him the most high profile final imaginable.

Hero fell yesterday, putting the hopes of Liquid, for the 1,000th time since he joined the team, all on Taeja's shoulders. He, by himself, will carry the lone flag for his team for the rest of the tournament. For the only team that would give him a chance to become who he is now, Taeja will fight to the end for his team and the fans that support him every step of the way.

Overall thoughts and prediction:

Taeja in S2 Ro8: Gets crushed by Squirtle, a player who then went onto kill Taeja's teammate Hero 3-0 in the semifinals before finally losing to Mvp in the finals. Taeja was green, wasn't ready for the knockout rounds, and got beat down by a better prepared opponent.

Taeja in S3 Ro8: Goes to the fifth set against MC, almost beats him, but makes a questionable decision in the last set and can't take down the President Toss. MC would then go on to crush DRG 3-0 in the semifinals, face Seed in the finals, and lose.

The common theme between the first two times Taeja has been in the quarterfinal is that the player he loses again goes onto destroy whoever they play in the semifinals and then lose in the finals. Taeja played much better against MC than he did Squirtle in his first time in the round of eight, and he is no longer a rookie this deep in the tournament. Getting to this point for the third time in his career, this is now time to either get into the semifinals or where we start talking about Taeja in the same light a MKP with all his second place finishes.

Leeenock has looked strong since beating DRG in GSTL in last season's campaign, returning back to the form that got him into the finals of GSL November. He won MLG Summer, beating First in the finals, something that Taeja, who lost in the semifinals to First, couldn't do. Unlike Taeja, he knows how to get to a final of the GSL and knows the feeling of standing on the grand final stage.

But it's hard to bet against TaeJa in this tournament, unless he faces Rain again in the finals. He's only lost one TvZ this entire year in Korea, and that was to Coca in a Korean Weekly. There is a chance that Taeja will lose tonight and we'll need to make up some sort of moniker like Kong to describe his Ro8 roadblock, but the only player that has made look Taeja mortal this entire season was Rain, who we've quickly found out is the best Protoss in the world and the biggest contender along with Taeja for that best in the world throne.

If this anything like Leenock's over-high level ZvT's with jjakji and Mvp, this will be a series that you better stay up for. Expect an incredible series against two of the most exciting players in the match-up, but Taeja is on a mission and Leenock is just his first step to dethroning and taking the torch away from Mvp, or getting revenge against not only the man who embarrassed him in the Ro16 and embarrassed his teammate HerO. Get out of his way Leenock, Taeja has no time for this.

Prediction: Taeja 3 - 1 Leenock

Code S Ro8: MarineKing vs Life Preview


By: Waxangel



  • (T)MarineKingPrime

    Strengths
    – One of the most mechanically gifted Terran players in the world.
    – Diverse playbook makes him unpredictable.
    – Veteran with vast experience.

    Weaknesses
    – Has had trouble recently against elite Zergs.
    – Surprisingly low focus on multi-tasking and harassment for a top Terran.

    Ideal winning scenario: Plays a vintage MKP TvZ series and defeats Life by forcing and winning marine-tank engagements.

    Craziest winning scenario: Decides discretion is the better part of valor and wins by cheesing every game.
  • (Z)ST_Life

    Strengths
    – Young and incredibly talented, constantly improving.
    – Likes to use a wide variety of strategies, especially ones that give him the initiative early.
    – Has become a very strong macro player since joining Startale.

    Weaknesses
    – Very little experience in live games.
    – Has never prepared for a GSL best of five series before.

    Ideal winning scenario: Flexes his macro muscle in full, and outplays MKP in straight up games.

    Craziest winning scenario: Life lives up to his other reputation, and wins with cheesy strats.




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The King of Kongs

While good-hearted, positive thinking fans were quick to celebrate MarineKing's departure from the dreaded Kong Line when he defeated DongRaeGu to win MLG Winter Championship, I remember taking a more cynical stance. No one wants to rain on a perfectly good parade with "oh, well he hasn't won a GSL," but it never takes long before people start to ask "so what have you done for me lately?" So, what happened to MarineKingPrime since March 2012?

First, he tanked in the GSL. Getting knocked out of two consecutive GSLs in the Ro16 would be considered a great result for many players, but not for one that was being called the best in the world at the time. With Mvp clinching his fourth championship and TaeJa emerging as a new Terran power, it became much easier to stop praising MKP, and start questioning him in retrospect. 'Surely, a good player. But how good, without a Code S championship?'

At the same time, he benefited from the fact that Startale was absorbing 99% of the Kong Line specific attention. Startale went on an incredible 'losing' streak of their own, with runner-up finishes in the GSTL, Code S, TSL, IPL, and HomeStoryCup in 2012. Only last week, when MarineKingPrime made it into the Ro8 for the first time this year, while the Kong of Kongs Squirtle dropped out, did the original King of Kongs step into that silver spotlight again (incidentally, he lost to Mvp in the Ro16, in a brutal affair that affirmed their long standing abusive relationship).

And so, here's MKP at it again, seeking to cleanse himself of that seriously comical, and comically serious curse, once and for all. He's definitely lost some of his luster since early spring, but he's still definitely in the championship mix – being demoted from THE best Terran to ONE OF the best Terrans isn't a huge drop. Like Major League Baseball – where the end of the regular seasons happens to coincide with the GSL's own elimination rounds – once the playoffs start, all bets are off. Alongside Mvp, he's the most experienced player in this tournament, and much like the four time champ, he has that magical quality of knowing how to win.

Up to a certain point, anyway.


Life's a...

Maybe I spend too much time thinking about appropriate theme songs for pro-gamers. But sometimes, a pairing comes to mind that's just too good to be true. For Life, there's a certain song by American Rapper Nas that fits oh so well.

Of all the Zergs around today, there's no one else at the top level who is so great at taking people off their games. It's not just the straight-up all-ins that Life initially showed in his broadcast games that can knock people off balance. While Leenock and Symbol showed the virtues of safe, passive play in the earlier rounds, Life showed that sometimes it's better to try and control the game from the get go. For example, he showed his love of speedlings in ZvT this GSL, pumping them out to corral hellions and seize the initiative early on. In ZvP, he often rejects the recently popular straight-to-hive mentality, instead trying to see what he can get done with infestor backed armies in the mid-game.

...and then you die

Obviously, this approach has worked for Life, or else he wouldn't have come this far. In fact, it's worked very well, as he's the player coming into the Ro8 with the very best record at 8 – 1. You could argue that he had a relatively soft path, defeating JYP, Seed, Happy, and a slumping NesTea, but it's still a very impressive record.

The main issue for Life is a lack of experience. The other Royal Road candidate, By.Rain, already spent a more than year getting big stage experience in the Proleague. In Life's case, he's as a raw as they come, and this will be his first time playing a live best of five series. From his TSL4 run, we know he can prepare well in terms of strategy, but there's no telling how the pressure will get to him one he steps inside the booth. It's the pressure that breaks many a rookie, and to be a royal roader, you have to prove that you were born with an iron mentality. On that front, it's encouraging that Life is totally non-chalant when he's on camera or doing interviews, bordering on being a jerk. Think Stephano in late 2011, before he started to really enjoy his fame – not giving a f*** can be a great asset in high pressure situations.

Life definitely has all the skills he needs, and he may as well have the mentality. But until we actually see him succeed, it's impossible to come to any conclusions. If he does beat MKP here, then he's a guy you should trust all the way to the finals.


The Breakdown

It's funny how Life and MKP are opposite in their underrated strengths. Life might have stepped into the spotlight by being a skilled, shameless all-inner, but he's actually been more impressive in his macro games (especially since joining Startale, though the timing might just be coincidental). Likewise, while many people remember MKP's flawless macro games from first half 2012, the fact that he was a ruthless cheeser is forgotten by more than a handful of fans.

In all honestly, I expect them to play the opposite roles from their publicly accepted images. Life plays more macro games now, and he always seemed more likely to play straight up against opponents he is confident against. MarineKing really excelled at brutishly overpowering his opponents with stellar macro and micro in the pre-queen patch era, but has struggled to adapt to the immobility abusing, late-game oriented style that lets Terrans survive in this day and age. Certainly, there are a few maps like Ohana where he could try to go for classic MKP marine-tank attacks to finish his opponent off in the mid game, but it will be hard to rely on that style against an opponent who is as good as Life. Life should be fairly confident in facing MKP in straight up games, making gimmicky strats very valuable for MKP.

In the end, I'm going with MKP by a hair. I like Life in macro games, but I like MKP's 11/11 rax rushes a lot too. Also, it never seems like a good idea to pick inexperienced guys to win against veterans, especially when they're total rookies. Even though Life is showing uncanny swagger in the booth, you could have said the same about a lot of players before they hit the elimination rounds (PartinG, anyone?). MarineKing's skill and savvy will see him through to the next round, where he'll think about whether it's a boon or curse to see Mvp in the finals.

Prediction: MKP 3 - 2 Life




Writers: Fionn and Waxangel.
Survey and Data Collection: Fionn.
Serf: opterown.
Graphics and Art: Meko.
Editors: Waxangel.
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 appe   Sweden. October 04 2012 10:16. Posts 138
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Hoping for TaeJa vs Life in the semis!
 
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 plasmidghost   Czech Republic. October 04 2012 10:17. Posts 1500
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Let's go Leenock and Life!
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 niukasu1990   October 04 2012 10:20. Posts 174
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Do we have recap
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 DMKraft   October 04 2012 10:25. Posts 450
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Craziest winning scenario: We couldn't actually come up with anything. Would you be surprised by anything TaeJa does?


Leenock flees the city in fear, and becomes a hermit living in the DMZ. Taeja wins by forfiet. Hunts down Leenock and makes him play anyway.
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 catplanetcatplanet   October 04 2012 10:31. Posts 2231
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WOW WAX

WOW WAX

IMO Life 3-1, nerves haven't been an issue for him since his GSTL matches. I mean, he won five straight in the GSTL. Life has nothing to lose here.
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 Osyrul   October 04 2012 10:33. Posts 215
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Prediction: MKP 3 - 2 Life

Don't give me false hope.
 
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 monk   United States. October 04 2012 10:33. Posts 6834
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I especially liked this article for some reason.
@TL_monk
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 TheDougler   Canada. October 04 2012 10:33. Posts 5295
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You forgot about Leenock's first epic ZvT:

CCCCLLLIIIIIIIIIDDDDDEEEEE!

In GSL Open 3
HuK FIGHTING!!!
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 Zenbrez   Canada. October 04 2012 10:33. Posts 3546
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I'm definitely one of the players who voted wanting MKP to win, but then voted thinking he would lose, but it pleases me that the writer's predictions are in his favor.
Happy fathers day, motherfuckers!
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 Brutaxilos   United States. October 04 2012 10:39. Posts 864
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Leenock vs Taeja... I wish I could watch it, but it's too hard to watch live Korean matches. Too late. :/
 
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 Bippzy   United States. October 04 2012 10:41. Posts 1335
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Leenock and MKP or Life and Taeja. I dislike ZvZ, I like the terrans that went on hotstreaks in 2012(taeja and mkp), and I like aggressive zergs who can alos play macro with style(life and Leenock).

So yeah. I might just wake myself up early and destroy my sleep schedule for this.

Edit: Yo NrGMonk why oh why did you change your name to just monk??
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 TheDougler   Canada. October 04 2012 10:41. Posts 5295
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On October 04 2012 10:33 Zenbrez wrote:
I'm definitely one of the players who voted wanting MKP to win, but then voted thinking he would lose, but it pleases me that the writer's predictions are in his favor.


This exactly. If my liquibet streak must come to an end I'd LOVE to see MKP be the one to end it
HuK FIGHTING!!!
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 andaylin   United States. October 04 2012 10:41. Posts 9479
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MKP vs Leenock in Semis let's go!
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  Ruscour   October 04 2012 10:41. Posts 5116Profile Blog # 
My hatred for Zerg is overwhelmed by my love of Leenock and my hatred of MarineKing.

Leenock and Life. For the swarm.
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 MangoSnap   United States. October 04 2012 10:48. Posts 134
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GOGO MKP :D Kinda wanna see Taeja vs MKP in RO4, but TvZ sure is more exciting...
MarineKing is pretty cool.
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 LockeTazeline   October 04 2012 10:48. Posts 660
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I'll take Life by a hair. MKP's comments in his Ro16 interview tip the balance for me.
 
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 GoodSirTets   Canada. October 04 2012 10:49. Posts 97
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Worth staying up for
Drone so hard, huk's tryin to outmine me!
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 SuperEight   United States. October 04 2012 10:51. Posts 184
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I hope TaeJa and MKP will advance! Especially MKP...
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 Laryleprakon   New Zealand. October 04 2012 10:54. Posts 6941
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Nice write up! Life/Taeja.
 
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