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| Sassback United States. October 13 2012 07:58. Posts 196 | Profile # |
| I'm glad about the players from china not totally getting the shaft, and I am always pumped up for IEM events! |
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| bananafever Austria. October 14 2012 22:37. Posts 348 | Profile # |
totally against this.. singapore is a modern dictatorship.. they kill tourists for smoking weed, homosexuality is forbidden by law and don't ever try to make a political demonstration or anything close to that... misanthropic place!!
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| petrox Australia. October 14 2012 23:20. Posts 223 | Profile # |
On October 14 2012 22:37 bananafever wrote:
totally against this.. singapore is a modern dictatorship.. they kill tourists for smoking weed, homosexuality is forbidden by law and don't ever try to make a political demonstration or anything close to that... misanthropic place!!
And how does this relate to starcraft?
I am not advocating blind patriotism in any way but if anything, at least recognise that Singapore is a society that prioritizes stability above all else. In this respect, you can at least have a guarantee against a repeat of the IEM China incident, and you can be assured that things such as visa issues would be highly unlikely to occur.
In respect to your statements, do note that while drugs are illegal in Singapore, trafficking is the crime that attracts the death penalty. Tourists, or would be tourists would likely know beforehand of the consequences of breaking a law in a foreign country before visiting it. Discussions of the death penalty aside, you should also know that homosexuality is not explicitly forbidden by the law. I would sincerely appreciate it if you could find me a section in the penal code which states so.
There is a large gay community in Singapore. Please don't spread false truths. Whilst cultural acceptance of homosexuality is a problem for the country, it is in no way illegal. Just keep what you do behind close doors and you ought to be fine.
On the grounds of political demonstrations... no comment..heh. ^^ |
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| S2Glow Singapore. October 14 2012 23:27. Posts 990 | Profile Blog # |
| All rush to take picture with grubby ! hoping Jaedong come IEM TOO XD |
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| S2Glow Singapore. October 14 2012 23:28. Posts 990 | Profile Blog # |
On October 11 2012 12:44 Weirdkid wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 23:15 deathzz wrote:
On October 10 2012 23:08 petrox wrote:
On October 10 2012 22:59 mapthesoul wrote:
On October 10 2012 22:52 GohgamX wrote:China will be seeing a lot of eSports 4th quarter 
what has this got to do with china?
oh don't you know that Singapore is a part of China?  . + Show Spoiler +I'm Singaporean. Just in case anybody's sarcasm detector is broken.
Blasphemy, it's part of the Philipines now
0.o I've never heard that one before! But yes Singapore is indeed part of China hahaha
hahaha , part of both. everywhere i see got pinoy and china -.- |
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| Immutant Singapore. October 15 2012 00:57. Posts 175 | Profile # |
On October 14 2012 22:37 bananafever wrote:
totally against this.. singapore is a modern dictatorship.. they kill tourists for smoking weed, homosexuality is forbidden by law and don't ever try to make a political demonstration or anything close to that... misanthropic place!!
What an interesting viewpoint. However, to label Singapore a misanthropic place is misanthropic.
On homosexuality
After the exhaustive Penal Code review in 2007, oral and anal sex were legalised for heterosexuals and female homosexuals only. The changes meant that oral and anal sex between consenting heterosexual and female homosexual adults were no longer offences but section 377A, which dealt with gross indecency between consenting men, remained in force.
You may be homo here, but try to keep in check your raging passions and not do 'that' on the train or in a public place.
On political demostrations
No comment... I have no idea what is going on with the recent changes in the new Public Order Act. I think you can still host a political speech at the Speaker's corner. Though I think you should time any sociopolitical speeches to coincide with the next election, which should be held in 2016.
On killing tourists for smoking weed.
Countries that apply capital punishment for drugs
Country Charge(s) Method of execution
Afghanistan Afghanistan firing squad / hanging
Bangladesh Bangladesh firing squad / hanging
Brunei Brunei hanging
China China firing squad / lethal injection
Cuba Cuba firing squad
Egypt Egypt Drug trafficking firing squad / hanging
Indonesia Indonesia firing squad
Iran Iran Trafficking or manufacturing of any drug, and third conviction for drug possession, distribution or sales firing squad / hanging
Iraq Iraq firing squad / hanging
Jordan Jordan Drug trafficking hanging
Kuwait Kuwait firing squad / hanging
Laos Laos hanging
Malaysia Malaysia hanging
North Korea North Korea Drug trafficking or manufacturing firing squad
Oman Oman firing squad
Qatar Qatar decapitation
Pakistan Pakistan hanging
Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia decapitation
Singapore Singapore Drug trafficking in more than the following specified quantities:
1200 grams of opium
30 grams of morphine
15 grams of heroin
30 grams of cocaine
500 grams of cannabis
250 grams of methamphetamine
hanging
Somalia Somalia firing squad
Sri Lanka Sri Lanka hanging
Syria Syria hanging
Sudan Sudan hanging
Taiwan Taiwan firing squad / lethal injection
Thailand Thailand lethal injection[1]
United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates decapitation / firing squad / hanging
United States electrocution / lethal injection
Vietnam Vietnam lethal injection
Yemen Yemen firing squad
Zimbabwe Zimbabwe hanging
Singapore completes review of mandatory death penalty
As petrox mentioned, trafficking drugs =/= random tourists smoking weed (although you should no bring weed into Singapore). Also the death penalty is no long mandatory for drug trafficking and is subject to the discretion of the judge.
Think of it as the ultimate safe place, a drug free society without guns. So long as you live an upright life, you have absolutely nothing to fear.
As for being a dictatorship... even if the mass media is controlled by the government, we have the highest smartphone penetration rate in the world... one of the highest computer literacy/Internet usage, some of the best universities, let's just say our society can think for itself.
[Edit]FYI, all these is related to the sociopolitical landscape of Singapore and should have no bearing on Starcraft 2. If you are a foreigner, just come over and enjoy. Cultures are different all across the world.Last edit: 2012-10-15 01:40:14 |
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| zhoujielun Singapore. October 15 2012 03:32. Posts 3 | Profile # |
| Hi im from singapore so will there be any TL gathering happening? Will be glad to attend!! |
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| deathzz October 15 2012 13:27. Posts 435 | Profile # |
On October 15 2012 03:32 zhoujielun wrote:
Hi im from singapore so will there be any TL gathering happening? Will be glad to attend!!
Let's just meet at sitex which shld be held at expo. Singapore ain't that big yea? |
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| markrevival United States. October 15 2012 17:55. Posts 199 | Profile # |
On October 15 2012 00:57 Immutant wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 22:37 bananafever wrote:
totally against this.. singapore is a modern dictatorship.. they kill tourists for smoking weed, homosexuality is forbidden by law and don't ever try to make a political demonstration or anything close to that... misanthropic place!!
What an interesting viewpoint. However, to label Singapore a misanthropic place is misanthropic. On homosexuality
Show nested quote +After the exhaustive Penal Code review in 2007, oral and anal sex were legalised for heterosexuals and female homosexuals only. The changes meant that oral and anal sex between consenting heterosexual and female homosexual adults were no longer offences but section 377A, which dealt with gross indecency between consenting men, remained in force.
You may be homo here, but try to keep in check your raging passions and not do 'that' on the train or in a public place. On political demostrations No comment... I have no idea what is going on with the recent changes in the new Public Order Act. I think you can still host a political speech at the Speaker's corner. Though I think you should time any sociopolitical speeches to coincide with the next election, which should be held in 2016. On killing tourists for smoking weed.
Show nested quote +Countries that apply capital punishment for drugs
Country Charge(s) Method of execution
Afghanistan Afghanistan firing squad / hanging
Bangladesh Bangladesh firing squad / hanging
Brunei Brunei hanging
China China firing squad / lethal injection
Cuba Cuba firing squad
Egypt Egypt Drug trafficking firing squad / hanging
Indonesia Indonesia firing squad
Iran Iran Trafficking or manufacturing of any drug, and third conviction for drug possession, distribution or sales firing squad / hanging
Iraq Iraq firing squad / hanging
Jordan Jordan Drug trafficking hanging
Kuwait Kuwait firing squad / hanging
Laos Laos hanging
Malaysia Malaysia hanging
North Korea North Korea Drug trafficking or manufacturing firing squad
Oman Oman firing squad
Qatar Qatar decapitation
Pakistan Pakistan hanging
Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia decapitation
Singapore Singapore Drug trafficking in more than the following specified quantities:
1200 grams of opium
30 grams of morphine
15 grams of heroin
30 grams of cocaine
500 grams of cannabis
250 grams of methamphetamine
hanging
Somalia Somalia firing squad
Sri Lanka Sri Lanka hanging
Syria Syria hanging
Sudan Sudan hanging
Taiwan Taiwan firing squad / lethal injection
Thailand Thailand lethal injection[1]
United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates decapitation / firing squad / hanging
United States electrocution / lethal injection
Vietnam Vietnam lethal injection
Yemen Yemen firing squad
Zimbabwe Zimbabwe hanging
As petrox mentioned, trafficking drugs =/= random tourists smoking weed (although you should no bring weed into Singapore). Also the death penalty is no long mandatory for drug trafficking and is subject to the discretion of the judge. Think of it as the ultimate safe place, a drug free society without guns. So long as you live an upright life, you have absolutely nothing to fear. As for being a dictatorship... even if the mass media is controlled by the government, we have the highest smartphone penetration rate in the world... one of the highest computer literacy/Internet usage, some of the best universities, let's just say our society can think for itself. [Edit]FYI, all these is related to the sociopolitical landscape of Singapore and should have no bearing on Starcraft 2. If you are a foreigner, just come over and enjoy. Cultures are different all across the world.
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| j1nzo Germany. October 17 2012 06:17. Posts 249 | Profile # | |
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| Immutant Singapore. October 17 2012 06:53. Posts 175 | Profile # |
On October 15 2012 17:55 markrevival wrote:
holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why?
Huh? What do you mean brutal and oppressive? TLDR, here are my points
1) Gays making out in public in any country would probably get them arrested too
2) Singapore, like the United States, can sentence drug traffickers to death. The sentence is much lesser for consumers.
3) For political demonstrations, you can hold them if you get a permit. If you mean those mass spontaneous ones where a mob gathers, the situation isn't that bad for society to do such a thing. Also, the opposition here isn't as good as the main party (unlike the US).
And if the citizen don't like it, he can just immigrate. Unlike North Korea. As for political demonstrations, look at Myanmar (getting better now), or China (Tibet). By no means is the govt 'brutal'.
[Edit] I would like to clarify that I thought making out means 'having sex'. Just throwing in a outrageous scenerio. Last edit: 2012-10-17 14:34:25 |
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| beamingrobot United States. October 17 2012 12:56. Posts 598 | Profile # |
| I'll be attending this with a few friends so hopefully one of you guys will be wearing a TL shirt so we can hang out. :D |
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| bovi Japan. October 17 2012 13:21. Posts 208 | Profile # |
Back to topic w/o the politics, this is great news for the region.
by the way the ESL post in slightly misleading. the event will take place at Singapore Expo, which is not what's shown in the photo (that's Marina Bay Sands Casino). Singapore Expo is far from the city (near the airport though) and basically a place for warehouse sales and exhibitions and mega churches. Not glitzy at all. |
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| lisward Singapore. October 17 2012 13:38. Posts 836 | Profile Blog # |
On October 17 2012 06:53 Immutant wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 17:55 markrevival wrote:
holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why?
Huh? What do you mean brutal and oppressive? TLDR, here are my points 1) Gays making out in public in any country would probably get them arrested too 2) Singapore, like the United States, can sentence drug traffickers to death. The sentence is much lesser for consumers. 3) For political demonstrations, you can hold them if you get a permit. If you mean those mass spontaneous ones where a mob gathers, the situation isn't that bad for society to do such a thing. Also, the opposition here isn't as good as the main party (unlike the US). And if the citizen don't like it, he can just immigrate. Unlike North Korea. As for political demonstrations, look at Myanmar (getting better now), or China (Tibet). By no means is the govt 'brutal'.
Gays making out in public will not get you arrested in 'any other country'.
And homosexuals are not oppressed in Singaporeans, its just an illusion that the government wants to give to the silly conservative Christian population. Newsflash, half of our celebrities are openly gay. (Ok not half, but quite a handful of them)
The government has already officially stated that they do not oppress or dislike homosexuals.
Consuming weed will not get you executed. You get into trouble for bringing in or selling drugs.
There is virtually no credible opposition here.
People here are living comfortably, have jobs, education is partially subsidized, we have the best healthcare system in Asia, can literally walk into any place at any time and feel safe without worrying about some gangbanger shooting you in the face, what do we have to complain about. |
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| kellymilkies Singapore. October 17 2012 14:06. Posts 1237 | Profile Blog # |
| We have a barcraft for almost every big event and lots of people come. Also I think there is a huge LoL following in Singapore. |
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| MonkSEA Australia. October 17 2012 14:18. Posts 1161 | Profile Blog # |
On October 17 2012 13:38 lisward wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 06:53 Immutant wrote:
On October 15 2012 17:55 markrevival wrote:
holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why?
Huh? What do you mean brutal and oppressive? TLDR, here are my points 1) Gays making out in public in any country would probably get them arrested too 2) Singapore, like the United States, can sentence drug traffickers to death. The sentence is much lesser for consumers. 3) For political demonstrations, you can hold them if you get a permit. If you mean those mass spontaneous ones where a mob gathers, the situation isn't that bad for society to do such a thing. Also, the opposition here isn't as good as the main party (unlike the US). And if the citizen don't like it, he can just immigrate. Unlike North Korea. As for political demonstrations, look at Myanmar (getting better now), or China (Tibet). By no means is the govt 'brutal'.
Gays making out in public will not get you arrested in 'any other country'. And homosexuals are not oppressed in Singaporeans, its just an illusion that the government wants to give to the silly conservative Christian population. Newsflash, half of our celebrities are openly gay. (Ok not half, but quite a handful of them) The government has already officially stated that they do not oppress or dislike homosexuals. Consuming weed will not get you executed. You get into trouble for bringing in or selling drugs. There is virtually no credible opposition here. People here are living comfortably, have jobs, education is partially subsidized, we have the best healthcare system in Asia, can literally walk into any place at any time and feel safe without worrying about some gangbanger shooting you in the face, what do we have to complain about.
I'm afraid to ask, but I'm pretty sure there has to be some back story to this 'two gays kissing' thing, like repeat indecent exposure or sexual intercourse in public or the officer arresting them has prejudice or whatever. Was it just a freak thing or a common occurance? |
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| Oktyabr Singapore. October 17 2012 15:00. Posts 950 | Profile # |
On October 17 2012 14:18 MonkSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 13:38 lisward wrote:
On October 17 2012 06:53 Immutant wrote:
On October 15 2012 17:55 markrevival wrote:
holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why?
Huh? What do you mean brutal and oppressive? TLDR, here are my points 1) Gays making out in public in any country would probably get them arrested too 2) Singapore, like the United States, can sentence drug traffickers to death. The sentence is much lesser for consumers. 3) For political demonstrations, you can hold them if you get a permit. If you mean those mass spontaneous ones where a mob gathers, the situation isn't that bad for society to do such a thing. Also, the opposition here isn't as good as the main party (unlike the US). And if the citizen don't like it, he can just immigrate. Unlike North Korea. As for political demonstrations, look at Myanmar (getting better now), or China (Tibet). By no means is the govt 'brutal'.
Gays making out in public will not get you arrested in 'any other country'. And homosexuals are not oppressed in Singaporeans, its just an illusion that the government wants to give to the silly conservative Christian population. Newsflash, half of our celebrities are openly gay. (Ok not half, but quite a handful of them) The government has already officially stated that they do not oppress or dislike homosexuals. Consuming weed will not get you executed. You get into trouble for bringing in or selling drugs. There is virtually no credible opposition here. People here are living comfortably, have jobs, education is partially subsidized, we have the best healthcare system in Asia, can literally walk into any place at any time and feel safe without worrying about some gangbanger shooting you in the face, what do we have to complain about.
I'm afraid to ask, but I'm pretty sure there has to be some back story to this 'two gays kissing' thing, like repeat indecent exposure or sexual intercourse in public or the officer arresting them has prejudice or whatever. Was it just a freak thing or a common occurance?
I don't remember anyone getting thrown into jail or fined for it at all, it's just that the law is against it. |
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| Dialogue Australia. October 20 2012 00:31. Posts 123 | Profile # |
On October 17 2012 14:06 kellymilkies wrote:
We have a barcraft for almost every big event and lots of people come. Also I think there is a huge LoL following in Singapore.
Really?? Why is there never any advertising for them? I'd totally go if I heard about it! |
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| bananafever Austria. October 20 2012 18:22. Posts 348 | Profile # |
why am i getting warned?? i just have concerns regarding international events being held in dictatorships.. it's the same like the football world cup in quatar or olympic games in china..
i don't doubt that people can live a happy life there if you adapt yourself to the scene.. but coming from central europe, singapore is one scary place.. it's the most modern dictatorship and things like killing that 18 year old boy from nigeria who was obviously being used as a drug trafficker is quite frightening..
it's funny that people from there defend this government since there isn't even an opposition...
all were being killed or held prison.. anyway my concern that things can go terribly wrong if hundreds of young people from all over the world gather in a place with such strict and unprogressive laws isn't unjustified at all..
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| S_SienZ October 20 2012 18:27. Posts 1795 | Profile # |
On October 15 2012 17:55 markrevival wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 00:57 Immutant wrote:
On October 14 2012 22:37 bananafever wrote:
totally against this.. singapore is a modern dictatorship.. they kill tourists for smoking weed, homosexuality is forbidden by law and don't ever try to make a political demonstration or anything close to that... misanthropic place!!
What an interesting viewpoint. However, to label Singapore a misanthropic place is misanthropic. On homosexuality
After the exhaustive Penal Code review in 2007, oral and anal sex were legalised for heterosexuals and female homosexuals only. The changes meant that oral and anal sex between consenting heterosexual and female homosexual adults were no longer offences but section 377A, which dealt with gross indecency between consenting men, remained in force.
You may be homo here, but try to keep in check your raging passions and not do 'that' on the train or in a public place. On political demostrations No comment... I have no idea what is going on with the recent changes in the new Public Order Act. I think you can still host a political speech at the Speaker's corner. Though I think you should time any sociopolitical speeches to coincide with the next election, which should be held in 2016. On killing tourists for smoking weed.
Countries that apply capital punishment for drugs
Country Charge(s) Method of execution
Afghanistan Afghanistan firing squad / hanging
Bangladesh Bangladesh firing squad / hanging
Brunei Brunei hanging
China China firing squad / lethal injection
Cuba Cuba firing squad
Egypt Egypt Drug trafficking firing squad / hanging
Indonesia Indonesia firing squad
Iran Iran Trafficking or manufacturing of any drug, and third conviction for drug possession, distribution or sales firing squad / hanging
Iraq Iraq firing squad / hanging
Jordan Jordan Drug trafficking hanging
Kuwait Kuwait firing squad / hanging
Laos Laos hanging
Malaysia Malaysia hanging
North Korea North Korea Drug trafficking or manufacturing firing squad
Oman Oman firing squad
Qatar Qatar decapitation
Pakistan Pakistan hanging
Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia decapitation
Singapore Singapore Drug trafficking in more than the following specified quantities:
1200 grams of opium
30 grams of morphine
15 grams of heroin
30 grams of cocaine
500 grams of cannabis
250 grams of methamphetamine
hanging
Somalia Somalia firing squad
Sri Lanka Sri Lanka hanging
Syria Syria hanging
Sudan Sudan hanging
Taiwan Taiwan firing squad / lethal injection
Thailand Thailand lethal injection[1]
United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates decapitation / firing squad / hanging
United States electrocution / lethal injection
Vietnam Vietnam lethal injection
Yemen Yemen firing squad
Zimbabwe Zimbabwe hanging
Singapore completes review of mandatory death penaltyAs petrox mentioned, trafficking drugs =/= random tourists smoking weed (although you should no bring weed into Singapore). Also the death penalty is no long mandatory for drug trafficking and is subject to the discretion of the judge. Think of it as the ultimate safe place, a drug free society without guns. So long as you live an upright life, you have absolutely nothing to fear. As for being a dictatorship... even if the mass media is controlled by the government, we have the highest smartphone penetration rate in the world... one of the highest computer literacy/Internet usage, some of the best universities, let's just say our society can think for itself. [Edit]FYI, all these is related to the sociopolitical landscape of Singapore and should have no bearing on Starcraft 2. If you are a foreigner, just come over and enjoy. Cultures are different all across the world.
holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why?
Coz... stability and if most of the people like the stance on drug trafficking and support capital punishment it's no big deal?
Western countries make too big a deal out of democracy. It has its merits, but it's far from being THE political model.
On October 20 2012 18:22 bananafever wrote:
why am i getting warned?? i just have concerns regarding international events being held in dictatorships.. it's the same like the football world cup in quatar or olympic games in china..
i don't doubt that people can live a happy life there if you adapt yourself to the scene.. but coming from central europe, singapore is one scary place.. it's the most modern dictatorship and things like killing that 18 year old boy from nigeria who was obviously being used as a drug trafficker is quite frightening..
it's funny that people from there defend this government since there isn't even an opposition...
all were being killed or held prison.. anyway my concern that things can go terribly wrong if hundreds of young people from all over the world gather in a place with such strict and unprogressive laws isn't unjustified at all..
Here's a thought... don't bring drugs?
A week without dope won't kill you.
It's not like the Singaporean government has troops to fire at Europeans on sight or anything...Last edit: 2012-10-20 18:28:51 |
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