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HotS Balance Update #6 10/12/12

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 Limniscate   United States. October 13 2012 05:39. Posts 74
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http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6863526811


Cloaken
Community Manager
Greetings all -

We will be bringing the beta down shortly to make the following balance changes. Thanks again for all the great help you have contributed in testing Swarm; we look forward to receiving more of your input on the changes listed below. Hop in there, play a bunch of games and let us know!

Protoss
Mothership Core
When Purify is cast on a player’s Nexus, it now also grants detection to 13 range.
Energize has been removed.

Oracle
The cost of Entomb has been lowered from 100 to 75, while the duration has been increased from 50 to 60 seconds.
Revelation has been changed to the following:
This ability will now also work on buildings, granting 3 vision around every unit it hits.
The duration has been increased from 45 seconds to 60 seconds, and the cost has been increased from 50 to 75.
This ability will no longer grant detection.
This ability will not affect cloaked targets, even if you have detection of them at the time.
The button arrangement for this unit has been adjusted to list Void Siphon first and Entomb last.

Tempest
This unit’s native bonus damage to massive units has been removed.
This unit no longer requires a Fleet Beacon.
We have added a new weapon upgrade called Quantic Reactor at the Fleet Beacon which will grant Tempest attacks +35 damage to massive units.
Quantic Reactor costs 200/200.
The cost of this unit has been changed from 300/300 to 300/200.
The supply cost for this unit has changed from 6 to 4.
The scale of this unit has been lowered from 1 to 0.9.

Sentry
Hallucination no longer requires research.


Zerg
Viper
Viper acceleration has been increased from 2.125 to 3.
The radius of Blinding Cloud has increased from 1.5 to 2.

Spore Crawler
This unit no longer requires an Evolution Chamber.


Terran
Widow Mine
The setup time for this unit has been increased from 2 seconds to 3 seconds.

Battle Hellion
This unit has been renamed to “Hellbat.”

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 HelloSon   United States. October 13 2012 05:40. Posts 387
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HELLBAT

FUCK YES
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 Meatloaf   Spain. October 13 2012 05:43. Posts 587
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lol at hellbat.

its still stupid healing mech if you ask me. hope it turns out for the better spectator wise...
 
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 Lesrah   Portugal. October 13 2012 05:44. Posts 99
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Pretty big changes to toss
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 SarcasmMonster   October 13 2012 05:47. Posts 2897
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 papaz   Sweden. October 13 2012 05:47. Posts 3739
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Hellbat LOL
 
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 TurboMaN   Germany. October 13 2012 05:47. Posts 404
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Big change to the Battle Hellion! LOLMAO Blizz
 
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 Jinmaster   United States. October 13 2012 05:47. Posts 36
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Spore w/o evo chamber? Wow. All them double starport banshee rushers vs Zerg gonna be salty!

Edit: why did they remove energize? It seemed like a cool ability.
Last edit: 2012-10-13 05:49:03
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 Zombo Joe   Canada. October 13 2012 05:49. Posts 850
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This must be a joke of some sort.

Hellbat sounds awful, they should change it to Firebat, it seems more fitting.
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 GGzerG   United States. October 13 2012 05:49. Posts 3515
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Wow... The people were right... hallucination requiring no upgrade now is kind of crazy...also the spore crawler change umm... I am pretty happy I guess, but the widow mine will still be strong , I guess now you will have an extra second to kill it before it burrows, and it will be easier to stop the widow mine rushes since you won't have to build an evo chamber... interesting.....Also, hellbat? Haha, weird.

Hellion + Firebat = Hellbat ;D
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 Aquila-   October 13 2012 05:50. Posts 290
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On October 13 2012 05:39 Limniscate wrote:

Spore Crawler
This unit no longer requires an Evolution Chamber.




Why? Can someone explain this? Evo chamber is super cheap, Terran also needs ebay for turrets, what was the problem that they changed it?

Ah I see because of the mine I guess?
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 AndAgain   United States. October 13 2012 05:50. Posts 2486
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Pretty big tempest buff.
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  playa   United States. October 13 2012 05:50. Posts 598Profile # 
DT strats are no longer viable against Zerg because they don't know how to properly balance the widow mine? Nice. Throw enough random darts, I'm sure you're bound to eventually hit near the middle. Prepared to wait two years + for this beta to end. The only question is when will the changes tempt me to play it again. At this rate, probably never.
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 ranjutan   United States. October 13 2012 05:50. Posts 633
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hahaha Hellbat. Besides the name, though, I don't think it's that great

I'm not sure what purpose the Voidray will serve in this new world where you can make Tempests as soon as you get a Stargate.

Seems like the new Purify will be pretty good for non-robo play. I like it.

This spore thing seems like a terrible idea, but this is beta, I'm sure they'll change it back before long.
Last edit: 2012-10-13 05:51:39
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 kcdc   United States. October 13 2012 05:52. Posts 2311
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Tempest no longer requires fleet beacon and costs 100 less gas. Tempest harass just went from completely useless to.....I'm not sure what. How does Zerg prevent tempest harass at 9 minutes? Do they just stop mining until they get a spire?
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 SpiZe   Canada. October 13 2012 05:52. Posts 2293
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Hellbat ?

Is this a joke or what ? This name is so bad
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 GGzerG   United States. October 13 2012 05:53. Posts 3515
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On October 13 2012 05:50 playa wrote:
DT strats are no longer viable against Zerg because they don't know how to properly balance the widow mine? Nice. Throw enough random darts, I'm sure you're bound to eventually hit near the middle. Prepared to wait two years + for this beta to end. The only question is when will the changes tempt me to play it again. At this rate, probably never.


Making the spore crawler not require a evo chamber isn't going to really effect the effectiveness of a Dark templars in PvZ, Are you just 1 base DT rushing Zergs, and crossing your fingers hoping you win? DT's are not very effective vs Zerg ever in my mind, this change isn't going to change much vs P I don't think
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 raf3776   United States. October 13 2012 05:53. Posts 1860
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wow big changes.. no evo chamber requirement. Tempest change might actualy be really good. but energize leaving makes me sad... it had so much potential
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 AndAgain   United States. October 13 2012 05:55. Posts 2486
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Protoss does have issues with scouting in WoL, but I think no research hellu is a little excessive. It's almost giving perfect information for the whole game.
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 Jinmaster   United States. October 13 2012 05:55. Posts 36
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Maybe we will see tempest and oracle seiging mineral lines while toss turtles on two bases.
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