Pro Korean gamer (Code S & A) comments on Zerg

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It sounds as if you didn't prepare against Zerg at all.

That is the case. TvZ is too difficult nowadays, and I feel very stressed because I keep losing against Zergs in practice. I didn't practice at all against Zerg for this group, and I only worked on my TvT and my TvP.

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Zergs have been very strong recently.

I think that SC2 is more imbalanced now than it has ever been before. It's impossible to fend off Zergs. If two players are equal in skill, the Zerg will win 8 or 9 times out of 10. That's how broken game balance is right now. I would like David Kim to patch the game already.

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Have you always had trouble against Zerg?

Zerg is far too strong. If two players of a similar skill level face each other, as long as neither of them make mistakes, the Zerg will be at a substantial advantage.

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Next question. I want to know what you are thinking of the current metagame in Starcraft 2.

I was once called the 'Great Detective', but only because there weren't many strategies at that time. I could see what strategy the opponent would do only by looking at his unit count. Nowadays a lot of matches have been played out and many interesting and unusual builds and strategies have came out, which makes it more difficult to predict. Although better mechanics are also important, I think Zerg's Broodlord and Infestor army is too strong. I don't know about ZvT, but in some maps they are way too strong in ZvP. Daybreak is a good example. Even though I am a big whiner for Zerg, I honestly think this composition is imbalanced. Solutions for this strategy should come out pretty soon though.

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There have been a rising number of complaints about Zerg lately. What are your personal thoughts on this?

To be honest, I thought that Zerg was a strong race since I began. The more Infestors you have, the greater in-game advantage you can Get. It's very different from BW's Queen: it's a spellcaster unit, but it's very strong on the battlefield. It is a deeply overpowered unit. Maybe if Zerg only had Infestors, I wouldn't know, but there is no answer to them when they are combined with Brood Lords. Facing Infested Terrans is also difficult because they are attacking units but cost no supply.

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What would you consider to be the greatest stumbling block to your personal goals?

It'll probably be Zerg. I've always whined about Zerg on social networking services, and I would like it if other players joined me. Zerg is ridiculous. Other players have also said that Zerg is difficult to play against, but none of them have spoken out against Zerg during interviews. I'm mortified because I feel as if I'm the only one doing so.

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You must be dissatisfied with the present state of PvZ.

Zerg is overpowered. If you enter the late game and are faced with an Infestor-Brood Lord composition, there is no way to turn things around. To win, you have to play perfectly without making any mistakes, so it's too difficult.

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On November 11 2012 15:56 Chylith wrote:
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Note: Most of this post is in spoilers due to the massive length of everything I've either quoted or had to write, sorry if it's a tad hard to read due to that.

I'm going to add a few quotes from that series of interviews that say something to the same effect, It should be noted that the quote belonging to TSL_Center isn't as directly saying he believes zerg is OP/too strong, however it's very heavily implying it.

I'd also like to preface these quotes by noting that, although this is not necessarily the case, both the translators for these players and the players themselves can and might be heavily biased due to playing a race other than zerg or in the case of the translators preferring a race other than zerg and I myself certainly believe that zerg is too strong right now or at least very "broken" in how it plays mostly due to how infestors currently work.
Quotes from the afformentioned interviews, with all credits belonging to ThisIsGame:

Jjaki:+ Show Spoiler +
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ST_Brain:+ Show Spoiler +

To conclude and add a bit of counterpoint I'd first like to add ST_Brain implies the great strength of the immortal/sentry allin in his section quoted above, and also add quotes from a zerg player with his thoughts on the infestor and a quote from one about his feelings of ZvP.

Miya on the infestor:+ Show Spoiler +
SKTelecomT1_Dark on ZvP:+ Show Spoiler +

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On November 11 2012 16:07 Alokiya wrote:
To be fair, Korean pros are often fairly hyperbolic when they speak about balance. Mvp said throughout 2011 that terran was the weakest race, or he lacked confidence because his opponent's race is so strong. You have to take a lot of balance statements with a grain of salt unless specifics are given, because really, it's little more than whining without them.

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On November 11 2012 16:07 Alokiya wrote:
To be fair, Korean pros are often fairly hyperbolic when they speak about balance. Mvp said throughout 2011 that terran was the weakest race, or he lacked confidence because his opponent's race is so strong. You have to take a lot of balance statements with a grain of salt unless specifics are given, because really, it's little more than whining without them.

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On November 11 2012 16:17 Aelonius wrote:
Miya hit the nail on the head.

As a zerg player, I agree that infestors have the potential to be too strong.
However it's two ways. I never see terrans getting ghosts anymore to deal with them.

Also what Miya said, I agree on. We can't play without the infestor as when we do, the chance of us losing to a lot of positional stuff is big. Example: Mass marine vs speedbanes when they split well. Doesn't work without fungal. Blink vs Roach/Ling, same story. So unless this is changed and we become less dependent on fungal/IT, we will remain needing it.

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On November 11 2012 16:17 Aelonius wrote:
Miya hit the nail on the head.

As a zerg player, I agree that infestors have the potential to be too strong.
However it's two ways. I never see terrans getting ghosts anymore to deal with them.

Also what Miya said, I agree on. We can't play without the infestor as when we do, the chance of us losing to a lot of positional stuff is big. Example: Mass marine vs speedbanes when they split well. Doesn't work without fungal. Blink vs Roach/Ling, same story. So unless this is changed and we become less dependent on fungal/IT, we will remain needing it.

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On November 11 2012 16:28 Flonomenalz wrote:
To be honest, even as a Masters Zerg, I want an Infestor nerf. I definitely win games I get completely out played in simply because I have enough Infestors.

I want to say that TL shouldn't have this mindset of "only Zerg players are fine with it". We really aren't. It's quite boring for us as well to pretty much HAVE to play turtle festor into gglord/winfestor every game because muta micro isn't important enough to make them as good, and we have no other viable tech option at Lair that doesn't leave us open to giant timings. An infestor nerf, with a Hydra buff, I would have no problems with.

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On November 11 2012 16:17 Aelonius wrote:
Miya hit the nail on the head.

As a zerg player, I agree that infestors have the potential to be too strong.
However it's two ways. I never see terrans getting ghosts anymore to deal with them.

Also what Miya said, I agree on. We can't play without the infestor as when we do, the chance of us losing to a lot of positional stuff is big. Example: Mass marine vs speedbanes when they split well. Doesn't work without fungal. Blink vs Roach/Ling, same story. So unless this is changed and we become less dependent on fungal/IT, we will remain needing it.

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On November 11 2012 16:30 FakeDeath wrote:


How would you buff the Hydra?

I think i have never seen Hydra being made for a long time and that's a problem.

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On November 11 2012 16:26 vthree wrote:


Infestors can be tweaked a bit without making them useless. Terrans still make bunkers and marines even after bunker and barracks were nerf. Protoss still make HTs. Zergs still make roaches.

As for the ghosts, ghosts need to go to the frontlines to land EMPs and if Zerg has detection, ghosts are vulnerable to lings, banes, broodlings and fungals. And you need quite a few EMPs if there are 7-8 infestors due to their size. That is why you do not see ghosts being made that much.

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