How to kill Bloodseeker?

I do not what to do against this guy. Every time he's in the game, my team loses. We usually run lanes as this:

Disruptor, KOTL hard lane

Bounty hunter/ Invoker mid

Lifestealer (jungle), Mirana

Rupture just destroys us every game

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Razt United States. November 22 2012 13:17. Posts 87

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Any match ID's to provide? Hard to give advice in such a vague scenario.

But as with most heroes without escapes stuns/slow/disables will bring him down easily.

And you can just teleport away when ruptured if they don't have anything to stop your channel.

DucK- Singapore. November 22 2012 13:37. Posts 263

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If Rupture destroys you, then it probably is a basic problem. You are not noticing the Rupture, and you keep running from it.

Against a BS, always carry a TP so that you will NEVER get solo killed by BS. When he Ruptures, just TP away. As long as you don't give him the momentum, he will just be a big melee creep.

If you can't TP away because you got ganked by 2-3 heroes, then it's again your basic anti-gank sense. Only way is to work on your awareness and positioning.

Mithhaike Singapore. November 22 2012 13:44. Posts 775

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To counter Rupture, use TPs.

Bloodseeker has no ability to stop Teleports. Just press H immediately and TP if you cant win it.
If he has his allies here whom can stun your Teleport, well your fked anyway. Its your ability to avoid ganks that's the issue here

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negon November 22 2012 18:27. Posts 125

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Seeker is a bad hero, just carry TPs like people above me have already said. Alternatively you can pick Omniknight and just repel whoever gets ruptured.
You should be able to beat him with pretty much any composition tho, simply don't let him farm and remember he's easy food if you gank him with a stunner or two so do that as often as possible.
By the way using the same lineup for every game is bad, bad, bad and shows that your general game knowledge is probably not very good, which could actually be the issue behind your problems with a rather easily counterable hero such as Bloodseeker. So just try playing more heroes, including the oh so scary BS and see how different heroes and compositions work or don't work together and against each other. Once you start understanding the basic hero interactions, you should also be able to understand how to beat Seeker.

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Unleashing Denmark. November 22 2012 21:17. Posts 2418

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Gank him ontop of the tips already given, he handles ganks very poorly.

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ReignSupreme. Australia. November 22 2012 21:44. Posts 792

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Shouldn't even be coming near you with KotL in lane.
Creeps are dead before they even spawn

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CYFAWS Sweden. November 22 2012 22:10. Posts 177

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On November 22 2012 13:06 Amridell wrote:
I do not what to do against this guy. Every time he's in the game, my team loses. We usually run lanes as this:

Disruptor, KOTL hard lane

Bounty hunter/ Invoker mid

Lifestealer (jungle), Mirana

Rupture just destroys us every game

bs is scary for teh n4bs

any hardcarry fucks him if you get to lategame

tps makes him unable to solokill

going together makes him unable to solokill

he's pretty bad in teamfights since he has no escapes and cant enter fights until they're more or less over, before bkb

with all that you should be able to lock him down before he gets superfed and after that he won't be a problem

Laserist Turkey. November 23 2012 00:13. Posts 423

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Well after the buffs he turns out to be a very good ganker in pubs.

In addition to previous advices, you need wards to control the gank paths. BS has no natural invis mechanism and shadow blade is not his core item. Also most of the time he has no escape mechanism excluding force staff build and FS build is not viable late game and if you have some minimap awareness.

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Soluhwin United States. November 23 2012 03:24. Posts 1111

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The most important thing to remember about Bloodseeker is that he has an early game, but contributes nothing as the game goes on. If the enemy team picks Bloodseeker, then that's an early game win for him because as long as he last hits he won't ever be forced out of lane without a well executed gank. Just don't feed him too much and his overall contributions will be pitiful, just ensure that your team has a late game.

On November 22 2012 18:27 negon wrote:
By the way using the same lineup for every game is bad, bad, bad and shows that your general game knowledge is probably not very good, which could actually be the issue behind your problems with a rather easily counterable hero such as Bloodseeker. So just try playing more heroes, including the oh so scary BS and see how different heroes and compositions work or don't work together and against each other. Once you start understanding the basic hero interactions, you should also be able to understand how to beat Seeker.

I'm going to re-enforce this point, that you can't run the same composition and expect to win against everything. If your late game isn't strong enough to fight off a Bloodseeker who has a few kills, then maybe your Lifestealer needs more farm and should be put in lane rather than jungle. Maybe putting your two supports in the same lane causes the rest of your map to be weak, and lack what they need to bring down a Bloodseeker should he enter lane.

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Romitelli Brunei Darussalam. November 23 2012 04:11. Posts 377

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When I first started playing Dota, I used to think Bloodseeker was the strongest, most OP carry of the lot...

Until I read his ultimate's skill description, and suddenly felt very very ashamed of all those times I ran away after getting hit by rupture lol.

All kidding aside, I think the previous posts have covered it pretty well. Bloodseeker is a carry with no built-in escape mechanism and, thus, is heavily susceptible to (good) ganks. His late game and presence in team fights are also pretty iffy. Rocking good late game heroes (e.g. void, drow) or shutting down BS through early ganks (QoP, NS) should do the trick.

If you get ruptured (listen for the tearing-like noise associated with the spell, you can't miss it), either TP-out like a boss or hit hold position and hope for the best. Rupture is quite a powerful nuke, and I've seen lots of carries running away or TP-ing out when they could kill Bloodseeker 1v1 despite his ultimate.

Last edit: 2012-11-23 04:12:26

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mutantmagnet United States. November 23 2012 04:13. Posts 549

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I disagree with your reasoning. By keeping the same composition they can learn more easily how different compositions work against their current. Setup. They shouldn't stick to it indefinitely but they should be mindful of what they are facing against and take notes on how the differences play out.

Kabras Romania. November 23 2012 04:19. Posts 467

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meh, there's a reason why he never sees competitive play. i mean ffs, in that respect even pudge is better than him. as everybody else said, carry tp if you can't play offensively and gank him. you say you run disruptor, glimpse pretty much rapes bs if you use it correctly. any kind of disable will do, but your standard lineup lacks a lot in that so you may want to switch it up a bit? ghost scepter is also very useful since you don't take any dmg from ult as long as you stand still. he can't hit you while in ghost, he has no nukes, gg? there are many ways to fuck him over, you really shouldn't get stomped by bs

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iNViCiOUZ Germany. November 23 2012 21:20. Posts 359

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Haha, i'm totally new to that game /type of game. Played 4 games so far.
One game there was a bloodseeker and he just destroyed everybody and as soon as i saw him i run away but keep on dying.
Seems no one on my team knows about his abilities.

Thank you for that.

Testuser November 23 2012 21:34. Posts 2652

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The counter to BS has always been keeping a tp in the inventory - if he goes on you, you simply TP back home

If he's troubling you due to getting momentum early game from farming, then I'd suggest roaming mid a pressuring him. He's excellent in a 1v1 mid, but once he get's pressured it becomes a lot tougher.

Also, Razor is great against him.

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Nub4ever Canada. November 24 2012 03:02. Posts 1633

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Well, there's alot of ways to deal with him. If he loses his lane he literally won't have the power to do anything. Given you don't get crushed in your other lanes and remain susceptible to ganks. But TP's as many other people mentioned completely deal with him. Another thing is he has very little lane presence, he can lasthit to regen but thats all he does. He literally cannot harass you, if he silences just hit him. Use spells, keep him low and if he can't lasthit he's going to lose terribly. The only thing you need to watch is don't trade auto's with him without his silence on you. If you win the lane and he tries to rupture you 1v1 mid, you're probably fine just turning around and fighting him.

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nttea Sweden. November 24 2012 12:29. Posts 4067

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The only thing good about bs is that he can completely destroy 1v1 some mid setups, but generally not more than many other good 1v1's.

SnipedSoul Canada. November 24 2012 12:41. Posts 1691

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Stop running and fight him if you think you can win. If you can't win then tp out.

DarkGeneral Canada. November 25 2012 08:57. Posts 313

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One does not simply, kill, the blood seeker.

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synd Bulgaria. November 25 2012 10:44. Posts 294