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[GL] Rumours of War

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December 1st, 2012 10:31 | Dota 2
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Recap: joinDOTA Special Masters II

Table of Contents



A Clash of Clans
Prelims Recap


The Celestial Way
Introducing LGD.int


More on Liquipedia

Rumours of War


Remember G-1, that Chinese league that provided all-day every day Dota for us? We're getting another one just like that, only bigger. G-League is upon us. The best teams in China are already seeded, with this week's preliminaries deciding who will face them in the league proper.

As usual, we have the preliminaries recapped for you by kupon3ss. Next, we look at the headliner, LGD.int, a team that has been waiting in the wings for a while. TL writer shostakovich reviews their games against LW and goes into what we can expect from their lineup in the coming weeks.

Can you hear it, Dota fans? The cries may still be faint, and the sound may come from a distance, but make no mistake, there are rumours of war.



A Clash of Clans

by kupon3ss


If the G-1 League was a small skirmish of teams recovering from the International, then the G-League prelims are rumours of war, war on a scale we have not yet seen. China's Dota monarchs will soon meet their challengers in the kingdom's most prestigious Esports competition, a championship that has just transitioned into Dota 2. While most of the groups at these preliminaries turned out more or less as expected, we still got a small taste of what's in store for us when the tournament proper gets under way.

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G-League is upon us, friends.

Brackets: G-League Prelims Brackets | VODs: Youtube, uploaded from YouKu by allen_ami


Group A:


VG 2:0 NA

VG crushed NA in this series. The first game was a fairly one-sided affair as the NS - QoP combo played by a pair of the best individual players in China annihilated NA. NA appears to be on its last legs after its poor results in the previous ACE league, failures in G-1, and an inability to transition effectively to Dota 2. The team also recently lost it's sponsor. The second game featured a very shaken NA in a desperate struggle, running Weaver mid and using a Juggernaut against a very standard lineup from VG. Needless to say, it did not end well.


Group B&C


For Love 2:1 Invasion.int
TongFu 2:1 Natural9

Both series were somewhat unimpressive, with a pair of now middling Chinese teams facing foreign foes. In both cases, reasonably convincing first game victories on the part of the Chinese were reversed easily in game two.

The third game of FL vs Invasion.int involved FL drafting the "facerush" lineup of NS, BH, and Sven and rolling over their opponents in a rather humdrum fashion. On the other hand, TongFu vs N9 developed into an hour-long slugfest between a pair of teamfight-oriented lineups anchored by Naix and Syllabear, respectively. The game was reasonably exciting and was continuously back and forth until TongFu found a series of good team fights which they then developed into a lead, and then a win.


Group D


LGD walked over Mineski due to scheduling problems and miscommunication.


Group E


MUFC 2:1 Orange

This series between two longtime rivals of the SEA scene gave us perhaps the best games of the G-League preliminaries so far. We saw yet another round of the familiar clash, albeit with unfamiliar results.

The first game featured an Orange Naga Engima combo thwarted by the unorthodox push lineup of Nyx - DP. Helped along by thethe teamfight staples of Magnus and Undying, the Nyx fulfilled a small part of Puppey's TI2 vision of him as a counter to Kotl, and MUFC rolled through game. A decent early game for Orange turned sour when they misplayed a teamfight in the mid game, leading to a breached base and an insurmountable advantage for MUFC.

The second game saw a 4-1 lineup reminiscent of the Chinese foes Orange had just campaigned of, with Mushi on the Faceless Void backed up by some fantastic QoP and Magnus play. MUFC's NS, CK, Clinkz, a variation of the facerush lineup, obtained a huge early game advantage, but a crucial teamfight and a farmed Void suddenly ended the fun for them. Orange won.

In Game 3, Orange surprisingly attempted something that they themselves had been soundly defeated with. An Axe mid sounded good when combined with the Void that had just been successful, but an early game smoke FB for TA allowed her to get a quick bottle, completely and utterly nullifying the lead that the Axe might have had. Gaining a significant advantage via a strong midgame lineup of TA, Panda, and Potm, with a Nyx once against proving surprisingly effective, MUFC rolled over Orange and earned their chance to challenge the Chinese Dota machine on LAN.


Group F


Though LGD.int is perhaps the biggest draw of the qualifiers, their entry into the scene after months of practice was against the Chinese team LW, a virtually unknown team who've somehow found themselves onto the SMM roster. Our very own shostakovich talks more about the debut of most anticipated team in Asia.


Who in the world is VG?!


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People have always talked about how strong Chinese DotA is overall, or how "tryhard" the Asian ladder is, but have you ever wondered what would happen if you randomly took a bunch of high level Chinese pubs, threw them into a team, and then waited for them to pwn face?

Well, it turns out that if you do that, VG happens. Starring VG.Cty, a player who was able to best 430 in a recent solo mid competition, the team is composed of 5 of the strongest players from the Chinese Ladder. Debuting by absolutely crushing an established team and looking every bit as strong as the LGD.int team in their breakthrough performance, here's a chance to learn a bit more about these guys.


During the opening match of G-League 2012 Season 2, the new DotA2 team VG crushed NA 2:0, easily advancing to the round of 8. We interviewed team VG's manager VG.panpan after the game.

Gamefy: Hi, very excited that panpan accepted gamefy's interview, say hi to everybody?

panpan: Hi everybody, I am 熊猫盼盼 (pandapanpan)


Gamefy: First let's congratulate Team VG's victory over NA club as the first team to the round of 8!

panpan: Thank you!


Gamefy: I don't believe very netizens know about the members of Team VG, can panpan talk about the state of the team?

panpan: We officially formed on 10/21, but we didn' 't disclose it. The team is currently training in the Westlake district of Hanzhou (the same city as LGD).


Gamefy: can panpan introduce the members of the team?

panpan: Aside from VG.Xtt, who used to play for Tyloo, everybody is new to the scene. At the moment VG.Cty plays carry, Xtt plays solo, sydm as 3, and Yonna and fy play the 4th and 5th positions


Gamefy: Then Can I ask since VG's members are all new, why did you choose them to form the team?

panpan: I've talked to a lot of people inside the scene, and after a long time spent considering it and looking at my own observations, I found the 5 people I chose. They've temporarily trained together for a month and I'm, fairly satisfied.


Gamefy: Can I ask about VG's living conditions?

panpan: Living conditions are very ideal, both in terms of food and accommodation. Everybody has single rooms and the environment is quite good.


Gamefy: How are you planning your training? With how fast you've improved, can you spill some secrets?

panpan: I set a timetable in which we finish lunch at noon. Then, we start training as a team. If there's no team of 5 people, we just pub together, and after a month the results are comparatively good. Team members are also quite hard working, so I also do some 3v3 laning practice with them.


Gamefy: Apparently you also used to be a professional player, why did you become a manager?

panpan: I played for PANDA for a year and obtained a lot of experience after which I sat around for half a year. Then, my current boss contacted me and told me he wanted to form a team, and I started on those things. I don't play professionally anymore because I'm really noob and old right now.


Gamefy: Let's talk about today's match with NA, how did you feel the team did?

panpan: The team's performance was within my expectations. The team trained for a month. Before that, none of them knew how to play DOTA2. I spent the month training with them and explaining the things that they don't understand, so the fact that they can beat NA feels pretty natural to me, especially since NA hasn't been practicing DOTA2 recently.


Gamefy: Beating NA was also something I expected, can you predict tomorrow's match between TongFu and N9?

panpan: In terms of predictions, I obviously want tongfu to win. They have a lot of my ex-teammates, after all (note: tongfu's core is from the Panda team previously mentioned). I really want to see them in Shanghai. I will also pub with them in DOTA2 every night!


Gamefy: After beating NA, I believe that other teams will certainly start paying attention to you, what do you think your chances of advancing to the ro4 are?

panpan: Ro4 will depend on performance and luck, I can't really say if we'll go through!


Gamefy: Ok, thanks to panpan for accepting your interview! We will see you in Shanghai. We also hope that VG will obtain good results from this G-League.

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http://gleague.gamefy.cn/view_27027.html



Looking Forward




Drawing for the G-League groups took place at the very end of qualifiers. Incumbent teams iG and DK were seeded at the top of two groups, and DK was drawn to be top of Group A. The six qualifiers were then drawn randomly into the six remaining slots. Group play is in round robin best-of-three format, and the group stage will run from Dec. 24th onwards. And yes, there will be an English stream, so stay tuned!




The Celestial Way

by shostakovich


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LGD.int at practice. (Picture courtesy of LGD Dota)

Ancient Chinese mythology teaches that only he who possesses the celestial way (Tian Dao, 天道) deserves to be called a Son of Heaven (Tian zi, 天子), the one who brings celestial order (Tian Dao, 天道) to the world under heaven (Tian Xia, 天下). The Son of Heaven mimics the sun's movement and travels to the four corners of the empire, receiving recognition from the people, thus establishing the center of the empire. As such, he deserves to be called King (Wang, 王) because he possess the royal way (Wang Dao, 王道), being The Man through which Heaven, Humanity and Earth can communicate.

In the spirit of this epic journey, LGD.int starts their run to the top of the realm of Dota 2. With Pajkatt, MiSeRy, Brax, God and 1437, LGD.int has a powerful lineup. In fact, the first reaction from fans was to say that LGD.int lacked support players, since all of them but 1437 are known to play either carry or solo mid. Depending on the heroes fielded, we can expect to see God, Brax and MiSeRy often swapping positions.

LGD.int vs LW - GAME 1





LW
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The way LGD.int distribute roles will decide how we project their future. Pajkatt is likely LGD.int's hard carry, and this in game he plays a Luna. Brax plays the solo mid, G plays Dark Seer on the hard lane; MiSeRy is jungles offensively with Enchantress and 1437 plays Rubick. LGD.int runs an aggressive trilane against the LW trilane on the bottom lane, creep-skipping with Dark Seer and quickly taking a lead. This lead only gets bigger as LGD.int continues to get kills and destroy towers, and they eventually take Game 1 with ease. Of course, at one point the game takes a turn for the weird when, after a successful gank on the top lane, the entire LGD.int team drops from the game and are teamwiped in the process.

LGD.int vs LW - GAME 2





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LGD.int swap some player roles for game 2: Pajkatt is still the main carry, MiSeRy and 1437 are still the support crew, but God and Brax have been swapped. Now Brax is soloing the hard lane with Clockwerk and God is soloing mid with Templar Assassin. While they don't get an early kill lead, LGD.int wins mid and bottom, getting a lot of farm on Chen, Templar Assassin and Luna. While the LW Nature's Prophet uses his treants very effectively to scout possible ganks and deny runes, LGD.int continually dive for their kills. As towers start to fall, the lead increases. While LW wins a big fight in the top lane, LGD.int pushes the LW base, destroying the tier three tower and threatening the barracks.

On the back of a very farmed Luna, LGD.int uses Clockwerk's immense initiation range to find ganks and bring about 5v4s, forcing numerous buybacks from LW. In the end, LGD.int claim the barracks on the bottom lane and get themselves a lead that they never concede again.


This news update was brought to you by TL's G-League coverage team - heyoka, riptide, HawaiianPig, shiroiusagi, kupon3ss and shostakovich.
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 Ubs   Netherlands. December 01 2012 10:36. Posts 7
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Sweet write up!
Last edit: 2012-12-01 10:36:56
Don't forget, practice makes perfect.
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 Numy   South Africa. December 01 2012 10:39. Posts 7386
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Not enough freaking out about clockwerk pick!
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  TheYango   United States. December 01 2012 10:48. Posts 15758Profile # 
I'd say the Weaver pick from NA represents less a move of desperation (seeing as it IS Air's signature hero, and drew a respect ban game 1), and more of one representing NA's inability to transition, both from DotA 1 to DotA 2, and from 6.74 to 6.76.
Tongfu icon until xiao8's back on a ganker role.
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  Kipsate   Netherlands. December 01 2012 11:01. Posts 18110Profile Blog # 
LGD int looking quite strong, loving the Luna plays.

Group A looks significantly harder though.
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 Soluhwin   United States. December 01 2012 11:07. Posts 1111
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2nd to last paragraph, first sentence: Don't you mean "God and Brax have been swapped"?
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 teapoted   Sweden. December 01 2012 11:07. Posts 4990
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I'm cheering for VG, that's a great story.
 
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  Kupon3ss   United States. December 01 2012 11:11. Posts 2771Profile # 

On December 01 2012 10:48 TheYango wrote:
I'd say the Weaver pick from NA represents less a move of desperation (seeing as it IS Air's signature hero, and drew a respect ban game 1), and more of one representing NA's inability to transition, both from DotA 1 to DotA 2, and from 6.74 to 6.76.


It was, but NA picked weaver after VG had already grabbed TA, so the lane and game were more or less forlorn conclusions
This is what people who are too lazy to think of a signature do ~壮哉我大酒神~
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  shostakovich   Brazil. December 01 2012 11:12. Posts 717Profile Blog # 

On December 01 2012 11:07 Soluhwin wrote:
2nd to last paragraph, first sentence: Don't you mean "God and Brax have been swapped"?

Exactly. Thanks, it's really easy to let mistakes like this slip.
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 Gosi   Sweden. December 01 2012 11:32. Posts 3163
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vG is interesting to say the least. I've seen them on top of the bracket a few times ingame just pubbing as a team and they are very skilled. I hope they get the chance and time to really make an impact in the top scene. Will cheer. ))

Nice writeup riptide.
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  riptide       Administrator       December 01 2012 11:42.Profile Blog # 

On December 01 2012 11:32 Gosi wrote:
vG is interesting to say the least. I've seen them on top of the bracket a few times ingame just pubbing as a team and they are very skilled. I hope they get the chance and time to really make an impact in the top scene. Will cheer. ))

Nice writeup riptide.

Thanks, Gosi, but the articles are by shostakovich and kupon3ss. We're glad you're enjoying our coverage though!
RIP BROODWAR 1999 - 2012 | @riptideTL
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 teapoted   Sweden. December 01 2012 11:45. Posts 4990
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On December 01 2012 11:42 riptide wrote:

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Thanks, Gosi, but the articles are by shostakovich and kupon3ss. We're glad you're enjoying our coverage though!
Should really do something about that top right note. This seems to have to be explained too often.

The liquipedia link in the index at the top of the article goes to the SC2 G-League page by the way, I don't know if that's intentional.
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 thoraxe   United States. December 01 2012 11:48. Posts 1435
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w00t w00t, really excited about this, the groups look super tough.
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  riptide       Administrator       December 01 2012 11:48.Profile Blog # 

On December 01 2012 11:45 teapoted wrote:

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Should really do something about that top right note. This seems to have to be explained too often.

The liquipedia link in the index at the top of the article goes to the SC2 G-League page by the way, I don't know if that's intentional.

Oops! Fixed.
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  Implenia   Austria. December 01 2012 11:51. Posts 1972Profile # 
Looking forward to seeing VG play. Suprise me
 
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 Yoop   Norway. December 01 2012 11:55. Posts 13
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Yes!Yes!Yess! Can't wait for G-League. The last final was amazing! Now with the switch to Dota2 it will be even more amazing. I'd love an ingame ticket, but I have my doubts about that one.
CHA CHI CHA CHI CHA CHI CHA.
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 canikizu   December 01 2012 11:55. Posts 2030
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Is it just me or that ranting about heaven has nothing to do with the next paragraph?
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 Redmark   Canada. December 01 2012 12:27. Posts 1987
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On December 01 2012 11:55 canikizu wrote:
Is it just me or that ranting about heaven has nothing to do with the next paragraph?

Haha, I was about to say this. Maybe the "travelling to the four corners of the empire" is an analogy to going from the West to the East?
 
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  shostakovich   Brazil. December 01 2012 12:45. Posts 717Profile Blog # 

On December 01 2012 11:55 canikizu wrote:
Is it just me or that ranting about heaven has nothing to do with the next paragraph?

It's an analogy of LGD starting their run for the top of Dota 2. The first paragraph describes - in chinese terms - what the emperors of old had to do to become emperors and found their dynasties.
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 Lovely So Handsome   United States. December 01 2012 13:09. Posts 71
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Ridiculous that they didn't even play dota a month ago.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198051754686
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