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Hi guys. This game should be pretty crazy and fun. GL HF.
I don't know what is going on between Foolish and Marv, but I hope it doesn't continue unless more evidence presents itself, i.e. they each talk about other stuff and not each other.
I agree with whoever already said that we want to swap a town player to the other world. Basically, the swapped player's first day in the other world will be another swap vote, so he can't get lynched his first day over there. Therefore we only want to swap townie players.
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Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.
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On December 13 2012 01:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote: Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that. who'd you rather kill right now? No one at the moment.
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On December 13 2012 01:08 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote: Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that. How do you feel about my evidence which shows him speculating about swaps, then minutes later telling everyone not to do exactly that? Also, why would he cast the first stone at marv for absolutely no reason? All I can see his first vote doing is creating discussion, which it obviously did. I don't really think he would be that dumb as scum, but I don't know him, hence why i asked marv and palmar my question.
As for his flip flopping. I actually don't see it as flip flopping. I think he misunderstood the way swapping works with his first quote, and then just didn't want people to derp around talking about swapping, so he voted marv for the sake of discussion.
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On December 13 2012 01:30 Dienosore wrote: So you're saying he isn't scum, then?
Just trying to clarify so I know what sort of squiggle to use for you two on my map. Eh, I don't know if he is scum or isn't scum yet. I agree that his vote on marv was unwarranted, but I've seen a lot of people vote a random person day 1 just to get discussion going. And I've seen that from both town and scum players, so right now I don't have a read on him.
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On December 13 2012 08:20 marvellosity wrote: Maybe Crossfire's scum. He seems awful careful. Randomarseface is probably too derpy to be scum So just because I'm careful I might be scum. The reason I'm careful is because I'm really racking my brain right now trying to understand what is going on between you, foolish, and palmar. I've only played with you marv once, but I know you are all vets and are pretty good from what I hear. This is why I don't understand what is going on. It seems too bad to come from players of your caliber.
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So riddle me this marv. You call foolish's play bad in this quote + Show Spoiler +On December 13 2012 07:48 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 07:36 Foolishness wrote:On December 13 2012 06:40 Palmar wrote: I'm all for this discussion thing Foolishness. Let's start with you explaining in detail why you think marv is scum. He hasn't made a post longer than 30 words (most of them are just one liners full of nothing). He's not contributed anything of substance, all he has done is start a silly counter vote on me, backed by horrible reasoning. He says my vote is exactly the same as bureaucratic mafia, but it's not anywhere close. In bureaucracy, I just said he should die, I didn't give reasoning, and I don't even think I ever voted for him, I just made the comments in passing and never really elaborated on them. Poor comparison to try to get something going (though the amount of people jumping on it is great for the town). What's most sketchy about his accusations against me is that they seem so out of the blue. He was really quick to jump up and point the finger back, so quick that it was made out of panic (oh shit he's onto me...quick! accuse him back to divert the attention!). Hi there. I'd made 2 small posts at the beginning of the thread when you called me scum Now you're a pretty clever boy and you know that's not alignment indicative. I start every game ever in the universe like this. And no, you're stupid accusation didn't panic me. You lost your aura back in Bureaucracy when you were so trivial to catch as scum. How could I divert the attention when there was nothing to divert it from? Oh look, marv asked why Clarity was in both worlds and said hi, he must be scum! Give me a break. My accusation of you (shallow as it may seem) had more depth and interest than your accusation of me. If you're genuinely town then you should know the posts I made at the beginning of the game are in no way alignment indicative, so I can only presume what you were doing was some sort of play to get people talking? Whatever it was, it was bad. . You also say it is most likely just a ploy to get people talking. If you really are thinking that it could be just a bad ploy to get people talking, why are you voting for him? It makes no sense.
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On December 13 2012 11:15 Clarity_nl wrote: Judging by Mario, crossfire is not scum, or at least not showing it thus far. Oh, how nice of you. Thank you for the vote of confidence. To be completely honest though, most of what happened in Mario was due to two things. 1) That thread was way way way too active for my taste. I absolutely hated it, and would have hated it even if I was town. 2) Real life screwed me over hard during that game. I was away for the first half of day 1 and didn't think it was going to be an issue at all, but was an issue because of the activity level. Additionally, my internet really did crap out on me and make me unable to use the 3 hours I had to planned to devote to that game. I had no idea what to do after that, so i did my random stuff with 1 hr to go before the most hilarious, crazy, and random lynch I have ever been a part of.
Anyway that turned out to be way longer than I thought it would be. Whatever. lol
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On December 13 2012 11:30 Clarity_nl wrote: Ehhh, okay. In that case could you link us to some of the games you've played other than Mario? If you want an easy way to get to my games, just click the profile button on the top right of any of my posts. Then click the number of posts it lists in my profile. Then select the forum to be the TL mafia forum. Then you can see all the games I have played in.
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Now, I just caught up. I will have to reread the thread to determine who I want to lynch, but I definitely want to thank austin for using that objection.
Do i really have 2 votes even though sloosh is just voting for me?
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Right now I agree with starting from austin's list here.
On December 14 2012 05:12 austinmcc wrote: That leaves me looking at a lynch among:
randombum marvellosity kenpachi clarity_nl dienosore
At least for D1, I'm happy to throw clarity off the list. Scum starting with 2 in each world means only 3 scum total if he's scum, and if anything I would think he'd be 3P or some kind of half-one alignment, half-the other. We should not absolutely count him town, but for purposes of the D1 lynch I don't think he's a good option. I agree with his assessment of clarity and don't want to lynch him today.
I read through dienosore's filter and don't think he's scum atm. I don't have as strong as a read on marv, but I know he plays like this and am fine with not lynching him now.
This leaves kenpachi and randombum. Kenpachi is Kenpachi from what I gather. I can't really read him right now, but I don't want to lynch him because he reminds me of chezinu. Chezinu was difficult to read but was a townie.
This leaves randombum. Give me some time and I'll see what I can put together.
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Austin, didn't you play with Dieno in Chrono? I think this is the way he plays town from my cursory following of Chrono.
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Ugh, I read through random's filter and that left me thinking he's town. He made what I consider to be a dumb statement here + Show Spoiler +On December 13 2012 16:27 randombum wrote: No idea, not nearly enough information to say somebody is scum or not. I might consider lynching austin just because I still think focusing lynches on people who started on one world first is a decent idea if there are no better alternatives. but he read over austin's filter and said he doesn't want to lynch him because he thinks austin's town. I liked that because he did work and just didn't cop out with a policy lynch. This means he will now have to actually think and come up with some reads now, which he seems to be in the process of doing.
Now where does that leave me? Lynching kenpachi for being unreadable. I don't want to do that. Ugh...
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On December 14 2012 07:12 marvellosity wrote: slOosh, why are you voting for yourself? I think he's trying to figure out the votecount shenanigans.
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Marv, if no one was off the table, who would you want to lynch?
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Marv, did you see Keir's question for you in other world?
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On December 14 2012 07:41 austinmcc wrote:Keirathi, objection was 1-shot. Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 07:00 GreYMisT wrote: Most players have 2 roles. Which role is active will be dependent on which world you are in. In most cases you will not know your alternate role until you have swapped Worlds. You may only use your currently active role. clarity's swap was a special kind that did not alter our abilities. Foolishness has his Chaos of Grey role/ability; I have my iGrok role/ability. If I get swapped back, and swapped over here normally, then there is a chance that I have another role. That's what I mean about wanting to get swapped. Not that I can re-up on whatever objection-making role I have, which was 1-shot, but that there's a chance I have a second role. Austin if objection was 1-shot, how will you do this?
On December 14 2012 07:33 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 07:29 marvellosity wrote:On December 14 2012 07:27 Crossfire99 wrote: Marv, if no one was off the table, who would you want to lynch? Well, you seem kinda interested so maybe you're town this game. sloosh for right now I think is town, Palmar is null. So really it's between austin and kenpachi. I'm fine with a policy lynch at this point and I don't trust austin for his checks at all. I don't know if now it's just ME being paranoid, but his explanation that he'd have to check me by myself seems such a copout. Pshaw. Look at the rest of my play this game. Or we can discuss my checks after this lynch/you can try to get me lynched/whatever. But you'll notice that the people who were around don't seem to be finding me scummy. At the very least, drop me for this cycle. Besides, you know I'll check you by yourself later
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This is the only thing I can find that kenpachi said about dieno. He said it right after he voted for him.
On December 14 2012 06:55 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 06:44 austinmcc wrote:On December 14 2012 06:37 slOosh wrote: austinmcc do you prefer randombum over the other two? He has shown that he is in the least reading the thread. I'm leaning kenpachi at the moment. I'm leaning away from marv for now based on some results. I'm fine leaning away from marv atm. That takes us to randombum dienosore kenpachi Kenpachi feels like the "nobody else looks scummy" option. At the very least, I don't want us voting him now and leaving votes there when we've somewhat wasted today. So I'm most interested in randombum and dienosore. Random HAS been reading thread, or was yesterday, but...in terms of what has happened during half this cycle, he's been MIA. He was commenting yesterday, on the swaps, on marv/foolishness/palmar, but then poof. Way less commentary when things started picking up with clarity's swaps and my objection. The change in reading/activity can be explained by any number of things, but ... I'm no longer sure that I want to stick him way on the side of "reading thread" after participation today. If that makes any sense. His reaction to clarity's swap, that clarity "screwed things up" is WEIRD. randombum was voting, and is voting, PALMAR. clarity didn't mess with randombum's vote, so I don't know what clarity could have screwed up. That phrase is...odd. Real odd. slOosh, thoughts on that post in particular? dienosore I'm waiting on, but he seems to be sheeping a thought process from some guy he's never explained his read on, and in doing so is voting a guy he says he is voting now as a way of "taking potshots at the scummiest looking lurkers." He's not explained yet WHY kenpachi is "the scummiest looking," unless less people talking about someone = scumminess in dienosore's mind. That troubles me. I would prefer lynching into one of these two today over kenpachi I think? Right now the more I look at them, the more I keep disliking little things. personally, i was waiting for him to come up with a bs case on me but it never came lol
On December 14 2012 06:55 Kenpachi wrote: ^talking about dieno
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I don't want to be on kenpachi honestly. He reminds me of chezinu and I needed a little bit of time to figure him out. I'm not sure about dieno, but when I read through his filter a little while ago, nothing jumped out at my as scummy. He is more of a null read for me. So I don't know what to do. Ugh. I don't want to vote for kenpachi, but what else is there to do.
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First, Risen and I are confirmed town masons. I specifically asked about this and it is true. My breadcrumb is spoilered below. + Show Spoiler +On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote: Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that. On December 13 2012 01:14 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 01:06 marvellosity wrote:On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote: Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that. who'd you rather kill right now? No one at the moment. On December 13 2012 01:22 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 01:08 Dienosore wrote:On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote: Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that. How do you feel about my evidence which shows him speculating about swaps, then minutes later telling everyone not to do exactly that? Also, why would he cast the first stone at marv for absolutely no reason? All I can see his first vote doing is creating discussion, which it obviously did. I don't really think he would be that dumb as scum, but I don't know him, hence why i asked marv and palmar my question. As for his flip flopping. I actually don't see it as flip flopping. I think he misunderstood the way swapping works with his first quote, and then just didn't want people to derp around talking about swapping, so he voted marv for the sake of discussion. On December 13 2012 01:56 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 01:30 Dienosore wrote: So you're saying he isn't scum, then?
Just trying to clarify so I know what sort of squiggle to use for you two on my map. Eh, I don't know if he is scum or isn't scum yet. I agree that his vote on marv was unwarranted, but I've seen a lot of people vote a random person day 1 just to get discussion going. And I've seen that from both town and scum players, so right now I don't have a read on him. On December 13 2012 11:12 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 08:20 marvellosity wrote: Maybe Crossfire's scum. He seems awful careful. Randomarseface is probably too derpy to be scum So just because I'm careful I might be scum. The reason I'm careful is because I'm really racking my brain right now trying to understand what is going on between you, foolish, and palmar. I've only played with you marv once, but I know you are all vets and are pretty good from what I hear. This is why I don't understand what is going on. It seems too bad to come from players of your caliber. On December 13 2012 11:18 Crossfire99 wrote:So riddle me this marv. You call foolish's play bad in this quote + Show Spoiler +On December 13 2012 07:48 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 07:36 Foolishness wrote:On December 13 2012 06:40 Palmar wrote: I'm all for this discussion thing Foolishness. Let's start with you explaining in detail why you think marv is scum. He hasn't made a post longer than 30 words (most of them are just one liners full of nothing). He's not contributed anything of substance, all he has done is start a silly counter vote on me, backed by horrible reasoning. He says my vote is exactly the same as bureaucratic mafia, but it's not anywhere close. In bureaucracy, I just said he should die, I didn't give reasoning, and I don't even think I ever voted for him, I just made the comments in passing and never really elaborated on them. Poor comparison to try to get something going (though the amount of people jumping on it is great for the town). What's most sketchy about his accusations against me is that they seem so out of the blue. He was really quick to jump up and point the finger back, so quick that it was made out of panic (oh shit he's onto me...quick! accuse him back to divert the attention!). Hi there. I'd made 2 small posts at the beginning of the thread when you called me scum Now you're a pretty clever boy and you know that's not alignment indicative. I start every game ever in the universe like this. And no, you're stupid accusation didn't panic me. You lost your aura back in Bureaucracy when you were so trivial to catch as scum. How could I divert the attention when there was nothing to divert it from? Oh look, marv asked why Clarity was in both worlds and said hi, he must be scum! Give me a break. My accusation of you (shallow as it may seem) had more depth and interest than your accusation of me. If you're genuinely town then you should know the posts I made at the beginning of the game are in no way alignment indicative, so I can only presume what you were doing was some sort of play to get people talking? Whatever it was, it was bad. . You also say it is most likely just a ploy to get people talking. If you really are thinking that it could be just a bad ploy to get people talking, why are you voting for him? It makes no sense. On December 13 2012 11:28 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 11:15 Clarity_nl wrote: Judging by Mario, crossfire is not scum, or at least not showing it thus far. Oh, how nice of you. Thank you for the vote of confidence. To be completely honest though, most of what happened in Mario was due to two things. 1) That thread was way way way too active for my taste. I absolutely hated it, and would have hated it even if I was town. 2) Real life screwed me over hard during that game. I was away for the first half of day 1 and didn't think it was going to be an issue at all, but was an issue because of the activity level. Additionally, my internet really did crap out on me and make me unable to use the 3 hours I had to planned to devote to that game. I had no idea what to do after that, so i did my random stuff with 1 hr to go before the most hilarious, crazy, and random lynch I have ever been a part of. Anyway that turned out to be way longer than I thought it would be. Whatever. lol On December 13 2012 12:23 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 11:30 Clarity_nl wrote: Ehhh, okay. In that case could you link us to some of the games you've played other than Mario? If you want an easy way to get to my games, just click the profile button on the top right of any of my posts. Then click the number of posts it lists in my profile. Then select the forum to be the TL mafia forum. Then you can see all the games I have played in. On December 14 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote: Now, I just caught up. I will have to reread the thread to determine who I want to lynch, but I definitely want to thank austin for using that objection.
Do i really have 2 votes even though sloosh is just voting for me? On December 14 2012 06:37 Crossfire99 wrote:Right now I agree with starting from austin's list here. Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 05:12 austinmcc wrote: That leaves me looking at a lynch among:
randombum marvellosity kenpachi clarity_nl dienosore
At least for D1, I'm happy to throw clarity off the list. Scum starting with 2 in each world means only 3 scum total if he's scum, and if anything I would think he'd be 3P or some kind of half-one alignment, half-the other. We should not absolutely count him town, but for purposes of the D1 lynch I don't think he's a good option. I agree with his assessment of clarity and don't want to lynch him today. I read through dienosore's filter and don't think he's scum atm. I don't have as strong as a read on marv, but I know he plays like this and am fine with not lynching him now. This leaves kenpachi and randombum. Kenpachi is Kenpachi from what I gather. I can't really read him right now, but I don't want to lynch him because he reminds me of chezinu. Chezinu was difficult to read but was a townie. This leaves randombum. Give me some time and I'll see what I can put together.
If you take the first letters of my 2nd-11th posts. It will give you this:
M N A E S S O I N R
If you take every other letter starting from the left you get MASON and if you take every other letter starting from the right you get RISEN.
If it hasn't been apparent, Mementoss has been hardcore claiming scum and should be lynched tomorrow. In addition Foolishness needs to die today.
##Vote (GreY): Foolishness
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