Shinhan Season 1 OSL (Apr 06

If you have never followed a Starleague before, I highly recommend you read up
Mani's Ultimate 2006 Shinhan OSL Season 1 Guide!
This thread tells you the news before the OSL started and how the groups were selected.

And without further ado...

Results and Standings of the 2006 Shinhan Bank Season 1 OSL

Maps for this 2006 신한은행 1 (Shinhan Bank) OSL are:
Rush Hour III

815 III

新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)

신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)

Interesting Statistics
Guybrush recently brought to my attention the matchup stats for the OSL and MSL beginning from the preliminaries and Survivor Leagues. I will post the information here. Everyone thank Guybrush!

Matchup Results from Preliminaries to ODT
Maps in the prelims and ODT did not have Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo but had Ride of Valkyries, Rush Hour II, Luna, and Pioneering Period.

TvZ: 30-28
ZvP: 28-7
PvT: 21-11

Matchup Results from the current OSL
These matchup statistics use the four maps seen at the top.

TvZ: 9-8
ZvP: 7-5
PvT: 4-7

Total Matchup Statistics
TvZ: 39-39
ZvP: 35-12
PvT: 25-18

Recaps
If you only want to watch the finals games or if you're just too damn lazy to download the games yourself, there are writeups and summaries of the games after each Wednesday and Friday. Team Liquid's very own moderators Manifesto7 and ManaBlue will be your reporters. They always include pictures and I like pictures. OctoPuSs has recently become a mod for TL.net! (Congratulations!) He is pitching in some recaps as well.

Group Week 1-1 Recap (Wed 4/19) - by ManaBlue (A-F Game 1's)
Group Week 1-2 Recap (Fri 4/21) - by Mani (A-F Game 2's)
Group Week 2-1 Recap (Wed 4/26) - by ManaBlue (A-F Game 3's)
Group Week 2-2 Recap (Fri 4/28) - by Mani, sort of (A-F Game 4's)
Group Week 3-1 Recap (Wed 5/3) - by ManaBlue, with a new twist! (A-F Game 5's)
Group Week 3-2 Recap (Fri 5/5) - by Mani (A-F Game 6's)
Group Tiebreakers Recap (Wed 5/10) - by ManaBlue (Groups E and F Tiebreakers)
Wildcard Round (Fri 5/12) - no recap, live report thread (Wildcard matches for W1, W2, W3, and W4)
Tournament 16-1 Recap (Wed 5/17) - by ManaBlue (Sweet 16 Match A and B)
Tournament 16-2 (Fri 5/19) - no recap, live report thread (Sweet Sixteen Match C and D)
Tournament 16-3 Recap (Wed 5/24) - by ManaBlue (Sweet 16 Match E and F)
Tournament 16-4 Recap (Fri 5/26) - by ManaBlue (Sweet 16 Match G and H)
Tournament 8-1, 8-2 Recaps (Wed 5/31, Sat 6/3)
Tournament 4-1 Recap (Wed 6/7) - by OctoPuSs (Final Four Match A between Casy and YellOw)
Tournament 4-2 Recap (Fri 6/9) - by ManaBlue (Final Four Match B between ChOJJa and JJu)
Tournament 2-1, 2-2 Recaps (Wed 6/14, Fri 6/16) - by ManaBlue (3rd/4th place match and 5th/6th place playoffs)
Tournament 2-3 Recap (Fri 6/23) - by ManaBlue (1st/2nd place final)

Results and Standings of Group of 24 (24 강):
These will be played with 6 groups of 4. They will play a round robin with each player playing all the players in the group once. The top two automatically advancing to the 16-player tournament. The fourth places will have to say goodbye to their chances at winning and will get a seat in the ODT qualifying tournament for the next OSL. Third places advance to the wildcard round.

As to the standings what if two people have the same record? Who is over the other? If two players are tied with the same record, there is no need for a tiebreaker. They just look at the game played between the two players and the winner of that gets the higher rank. (ie. ChOJJa and Cloud both have 2-1, but since Cloud won the Cloud vs ChOJJa match, he gets a higher seat than ChOJJa). What if three player are tied? Well then a tiebreaker is played because A>B, B>C, but C>A. Tiebreakers are played like a 3-player round robin. Everyone plays everyone once. The person to win both games will get the top spot the tiebreaker is played for. 1-1 gets second and 0-2 gets third. The order tiebreaker games are played depend on whoever wins the first game. But what if everyone goes 1-1? Then the tiebreaker will have to be redone (un)fortunately.

Group A (Oov -> Cloud -> ChOJJa -> YellOw[Name]):
Cloud 2-1 -> advances to tournament as A1
ChOJJa 2-1 -> advances to tournament as A2
YellOw[Name] 1-2 -> advances to wildcards
Oov 1-2 -> ODT

A Game 1: Oov > Cloud @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
A Game 2: ChOJJa > YellOw[Name] @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
A Game 3: ChOJJa > Oov @ Rush Hour III
A Game 4: Cloud > YellOw[Name] @ Rush Hour III
A Game 5: YellOw[Name] > Oov @ 815 III
A Game 6: Cloud > ChOJJa @ 815 III

Group B (July -> GoRush -> Rock -> Sync):
Rock 2-1 -> advances to tournament as B1
GoRush 2-1 -> advances to tournament as B2
July 1-2 -> advances to wildcards
Sync 1-2 -> ODT

B Game 1: Sync > Rock @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
B Game 2: GoRush > July @ Rush Hour III
B Game 3: GoRush > Sync @ 815 III
B Game 4: Rock > July @ 815 III
B Game 5: Rock > GoRush @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
B Game 6: July > Sync @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)

Group C (PuSan -> BoxeR -> ShinHwA -> Jju):
BoxeR 3-0 -> advances to tourney as C1
JJu 2-1 -> advances to tourney as C2
ShinHwA 1-2 advances to wildcards
PuSan 0-3 -> ODT

C Game 1: BoxeR > PuSan @ Rush Hour III
C Game 2: Jju > ShinHwA @ 815 III
C Game 3: ShinHwA > PuSan @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
C Game 4: BoxeR > Jju @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
C Game 5: Jju > PuSan @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
C Game 6: BoxeR > ShinHwA @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)

Group D (Sea -> GooDFriend -> Rainbow -> Child):
Sea 3-0 -> advances to tournament as D1
GooDFriend 2-1 -> advances to tournament as D2
Rainbow 1-2 -> advances to wildcards
Child 0-3 -> ODT

D Game 1: Rainbow > Child @ 815 III
D Game 2: Sea > GooDFriend @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
D Game 3: GooDFriend > Child @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
D Game 4: Sea > Rainbow @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
D Game 5: GooDFriend > Rainbow @ Rush Hour III
D Game 6: Sea > Child @ Rush Hour III

Group E (Casy -> Nal_rA -> ZergMaN -> Stay):
Nal_rA 3-0 -> advances to tournament as E1
ZergMaN 1-2 -> tiebreaker
Casy 1-2 -> tiebreaker
Stay 1-2 -> tiebreaker

E Game 1: Nal_rA > Casy @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
E Game 2: Stay > ZergMaN @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
E Game 3: ZergMaN > Casy @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
E Game 4: Nal_rA > Stay @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
E Game 5: Casy > Stay @ 815 III
E Game 6: Nal_rA > ZergMaN @ Rush Hour III

E Tiebreaker
ZergMaN 2-0 -> advances to tournament as E2
Casy 1-1 -> advances to wildcards
Stay 0-2 -> ODT

E Tiebreaker Game 1: Casy > Stay @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
E Tiebreaker Game 2: ZergMaN > Stay @ Rush Hour III
E Tiebreaker Game 3: ZergMaN > Casy @ 815 III

Group F (Midas -> YellOw -> StorK -> IriS)
YellOw 3-0 -> advances to tournament as F1
StOrk 1-2 -> tiebreakers
IriS 1-2 -> tiebreakers
Midas 1-2 -> tiebreakers

F Game 1: StOrk > IriS @ 815 III
F Game 2: YellOw > Midas @ 815 III
F Game 3: YellOw > IriS @ Rush Hour III
F Game 4: Midas > StOrk @ Rush Hour III
F Game 5: YellOw > StOrk @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
F Game 6: IriS > Midas @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)

F Tiebreaker
StOrk 2-0 -> advances to tournament as F2
IriS 1-1 -> advances to wildcards
Midas 0-2 -> ODT

F Tiebreaker Game 1: StOrk > Midas @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
F Tiebreaker Game 2: IriS > Midas @ Rush Hour III
F Tiebreaker Game 3: StOrk > IriS @ 815 III

Results and Standings of 3rd place Wildcards:
The 3rd places from each of the six groups in the group of 24 will have to each play a best of three against another 3rd placer. The (3) winners of those best of threes will advance to the 16 player tournament that already has 12 players from the group play (for a total of 15). The losers of the wildcard matches will go into a tiebreaker for the last wildcard spot (W4). The first wildcarder to go 2-0 in the tiebreaker will get to advance to the tournament. Going 1-1 and 0-2 leaves them no dice and they will only get a meager ticket to the ODT qualifiers for the next OSL. Matchups will be A3-B3, C3-D3, and E3-F3.

Wildcard 1 Games (A3-B3)
YellOw[Name] 2-1 -> advances to tournament as W1
July 1-2 -> Wildcard 4 tiebreaker

W1 Game 1: July > YellOw[Name] @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
W1 Game 2: YellOw[Name] > July @ 815 III
W1 Game 3: YellOw[Name] > July @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)

Wildcard 2 Games (C3-D3)
ShinHwA 2-0 -> advances to tournament as W2
Rainbow 0-2 -> Wildcard 4 tiebreaker

W2 Game 1: ShinHwA > Rainbow @ Rush Hour III
W2 Game 2: ShinHwA > Rainbow @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)

Wildcard 3 Games (E3-F3)
IriS 2-1 -> advances to tournament as W3
Casy 1-2 -> Wildcard 4 tiebreaker

W3 Game 1: Casy > IriS @ Rush Hour III
W3 Game 2: IriS > Casy @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
W3 Game 3: IriS > Casy @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)

Wildcard 4 (Loser's round robin) Games
Casy 2-0 -> advances to tournament as W4
July 1-1 -> ODT
Rainbow 0-2 -> ODT

W4 Tiebreaker Game 1: Casy > Rainbow @ Rush Hour III
W4 Tiebreaker Game 2: July > Rainbow @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
W4 Tiebreaker Game 3: Casy > July @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)

16-player Tournament
The round of 16 (Sweet 16) will be best of three series. Winners will advance to quarterfinals. Quarterfinals (Elite 8) will also be best of three. The winners will play in the semifinal. Losers, (not sure about this), will play for the 5th and 6th seeds. Semifinals (Final 4) will be best of five as will the Finals. Here is a picture of the empty bracket stolen from Honest Tea's thread. HonestTea is one of the people that really make this forum tick. Please give him your

, despite his humbleness.

Enhanced for your (and SuperJongMan's) viewing pleasure...

Sweet 16 Results and Standings (16 강)
~~A1 Cloud~~ 0-2 -> ODT
W4 Casy 2-0 -> advances to Elite 8

~~B2 GoRush~~ 0-2 -> ODT
E2 ZergMaN 2-0 -> advances to Elite 8

F1 YellOw 2-0 -> advances to Elite 8
~~D2 GooDFriend~~ -> ODT

~~C1 BoxeR~~ 1-2 -> ODT
W2 ShinHwA 2-1 -> advances to Elite 8

~~B1 Rock~~ 0-2 -> ODT
W3 IriS 2-0 -> advances to Elite 8

A2 ChOJJa 2-0 -> advances to Elite 8
~~F2 StOrk~~ 0-2 -> ODT

~~E1 Nal_rA~~ 1-2 -> ODT
C2 JJu 2-1 -> advances to Elite 8

~~D1 Sea~~ 1-2 -> ODT
W1 YellOw[Name] 2-1 -> advances to Elite 8

Match A: A1 Cloud vs W4 Casy
Game 1: Casy > Cloud @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
Game 2: Casy > Cloud @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)

Match B: B2 GoRush vs E2 ZergMaN
Game 1: ZergMaN > GoRush @ 815 III
Game 2: ZergMaN > GoRush @ Rush Hour III

Match C: F1 YellOw vs D2 GooDFriend
Game 1: YellOw > GooDFriend @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
Game 2: YellOw > GooDFriend @ 815 III

Match D: C1 BoxeR vs W2 ShinHwA
Game 1: BoxeR ShinHwA @ Rush Hour III
Game 2: ShinHwA > BoxeR @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
Game 3: ShinHwA > BoxeR @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)

Match E: B1 Rock vs W3 IriS
Game 1: IriS > Rock @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
Game 2: IriS > Rock @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)

Match F: A2 ChOJJa vs F2 StOrk
Game 1: ChOJJa > StOrk @ 815 III
Game 2: ChOJJa > StOrk @ Rush Hour III

Match G: E1 Nal_rA vs C2 JJu
Game 1: JJu > Nal_rA @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
Game 2: Nal_rA > JJu @ 815 III
Game 3: JJu > Nal_rA @ Rush Hour III

Match H: D1 Sea vs W1 YellOw[Name]
Game 1: YellOw[Name] > Sea @ Rush Hour III
Game 2: Sea > YellOw[Name] @ 신한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
Game 3: YellOw[Name] > 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)

Elite 8 (Quarterfinals) Results and Standings
The Elite 8 is a best of three series. Winners advance to the Final 4. Losers will go to a dual tournament style series for the 5th and 6th seeds to the next OSL.

W4 Casy 2-0 -> advances to Final 4
E2 ZergMaN 0-2 -> 5/6 seed playoff

F1 YellOw 2-1 -> advances to Final 4
W2 ShinHwA 1-2 -> 5/6 seed playoff

W3 IriS 1-2 -> 5/6 seed playoff
A2 ChOJJa 2-1 -> advances to Final 4

C2 JJu 2-0 -> advances to Final 4
W1 YellOw[Name] 0-2 -> 5/6 seed playoff

Match A: W4 Casy vs E2 ZergMaN
Game 1: Casy > ZergMaN @ 815 III
Game 2: Casy > ZergMaN @ 산한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)

Match B: F1 YellOw vs W2 ShinHwA
Game 1: ShinHwA > YellOw @ 815 III
Game 2: YellOw > ShinHwA @ 산한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
Game 3: YellOw > ShinHwA @ Rush Hour III

Match C: W3 IriS vs A2 ChOJJa
Game 1: IriS > ChOJJa @ 815 III
Game 2: ChOJJa > IriS @ 산한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
Game 3: ChOJJa > IriS @ Rush Hour III

Match D: C2 JJu vs W1 YellOw[Name]
Game 1: JJu > YellOw[Name] @ Rush Hour III
Game 2: JJu > YellOw[Name] @ 산한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)

Final 4 (Semifinals) Results and Standings
The Final 4 will finally (laff) be a best of 5. The two matches will be played on separate days of course, one series in one day. (I still think they should spread out a series over 2 days. What if it's a Terran vs Terran slugfest? A 5-game series with hour long matches? 5 hours is pretty dang long.)

W4 Casy 3-2 -> advances to FINALS
F1 YellOw 2-3 -> advances to Loser's Final

A2 ChOJJa 3-0 -> advances to FINALS
C2 JJu 0-3 -> advances to Loser's Final

Match A: W4 Casy vs F1 YellOw
Game 1: YellOw > Casy @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
Game 2: Casy > YellOw @ 815 III
Game 3: Casy > YellOw @ Rush Hour
Game 4: YellOw > Casy @ 산한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
Game 5: Casy > YellOw @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)

Match B: A2 ChOJJa vs C2 JJu
Game 1: ChOJJa > JJu @ 815 III
Game 2: ChOJJa > JJu @ 산한 백두대간 (Shinhan Peaks of Baekdoo)
Game 3: ChOJJa > JJu @ Rush Hour 3.0

Loser's Final
The losers from the Final Four will play before the the 5th and 6th seed playoffs. These will be best of five. Winner of this best of five will be rewarded with the 3rd seed of the 2006 Shinhan-2 OSL. Loser will get the 4th seed.

F1 YellOw 3-0 -> YellOw gets 3rd seed in the next OSL
C2 JJu 0-3 -> JJu gets 4th seed in the next OSL

Game 1: YellOw > JJu @ 新 개척시대
Game 2: YellOw > @ 신한 백두대간
Game 3: YellOw > @ 815 III

5th and 6th seed playoffs
Now that Live2Win clarified it for us in his Semifinal schedule post, I will be a broken record and reiterate it for you guys. The 4 loser's of the Elite 8 will play a dual tournament style series of 5 games. 2 games, a winner's game to determine the 5th seed, a loser's game, and the tiebreak game to determine the 6th seed.

E2 ZergMaN 2-0 -> gets 5th seed to the next OSL
W3 IriS 2-1 -> gets 6th seed to the next OSL
W2 ShinHwA 1-2 -> ODT
W1 YellOw[Name] 0-2 -> ODT

Game 1: ZergMaN > ShinHwA @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
Game 2: IriS > YellOw[Name] @ 新 개척시대 (New Pioneering Period)
Winner's: ZergMaN > IriS @ Rush Hour 3
Loser's: ShinHwA > YellOw[Name] @ Rush Hour 3
Tiebreak: IriS > ShinHwA @ 815 III

THE FINALS
The finals will be played on Friday 6/23. This will be best of five. Winner will be handsomely rewarded with the first seed in the next OSL. Loser will also be handsomely rewarded with the second seed, but no title =[.

W4 Casy 3-1 -> IS THE SHINHAN 1 OSL GRAND CHAMPION! (1st seed)
A2 ChOJJa 1-3 -> gets 2nd seed in the next OSL

Game 1: ChOJJa > Casy @ Rush Hour III
Game 2: Casy > ChOJJa @ 新 개척시대
Game 3: Casy > ChOJJa @ 신한 백두대간
Game 4: Casy > ChOJJa @ 815 III

Well that's it folks, I pray that this was a valuable resource to you all who followed this complicated OSL. I hope you guys look forward to some of my threads to come. I plan on making a Making of Shinhan 2, and Shinhan 2 Results and Standings. Stay tuned!

Last edit: 2006-12-16 06:46:30

Do your best, God will do the rest. 고린도전서 10:31.

jkillashark United States. May 01 2006 03:34. Posts 5245

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Please feel free to point out any errors or improvements that I can make. I'll keep this updated til the end.

Do your best, God will do the rest. 고린도전서 10:31.

Day[9] United States. May 01 2006 03:47. Posts 7346

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fantastic report

great stuff thank you SOOO much

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Slayer91 Ireland. May 01 2006 03:53. Posts 8799

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WOW Nearly every SINGLE goddamn top seed of each group is 0-2 except midas (1-1) and Sea (2-0)

Cognito ergo diablo.

Arcanis Croatia. May 01 2006 04:12. Posts 115

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R.I.P. July : (

Last edit: 2006-05-01 04:16:41

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gulii Sweden. May 01 2006 04:19. Posts 2739

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Is July out? Then I´ll stop watching.

A very nice thing though:
ChoJJa, Boxer, rA and Yell0w is 2-0...!!

Jaedong

ROOTheognis United States. May 01 2006 05:11. Posts 4409

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Boxer vs Chojja or Nal_ra finals ftw

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Arcanis Croatia. May 01 2006 06:23. Posts 115

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ye... as it seems this OGN finals will be old school... gogo Yellow ^^

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

France. May 01 2006 06:38. Posts 14443

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Great job. :o

By the way, Sea is already qualified for Ro16 and Child already out.

Patriot.dlk Sweden. May 01 2006 06:43. Posts 5443

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Hrmm I dont get it, but thanks anyway!

EDIT: Ok got it

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gulii Sweden. May 01 2006 06:49. Posts 2739

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How can Child already be out?
And Sea is already qualified?

Last edit: 2006-05-01 06:51:45

Jaedong

Patriot.dlk Sweden. May 01 2006 06:50. Posts 5443

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Also, korean is cool but don't type it as if everyone understood it.. I'ts just harder to get out the information =p

Use the (korean) style all the time

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Guybrush Spain. May 01 2006 06:56. Posts 4742

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Great post jkillashark

Please update this as the season continues

Child is out because he can only get one win, and he has already lost against Rainbow and GF, and one of them will be 1-2 as well as they play each other.

Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!

gulii Sweden. May 01 2006 07:00. Posts 2739

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SO that means that July is out too? And Pusan?

Jaedong

Purind Canada. May 01 2006 07:30. Posts 3373

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If you have two guys tied for last, how do they decide the third place for the wildcard round? Do they play a playoff, or do they go by head-to-head record? (Casy, win the wildcard round please!!!)

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4.Aiur United States. May 01 2006 07:32. Posts 995

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Can you put linkys for map images?

I have returned.

Orome Switzerland. May 01 2006 07:34. Posts 8403

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On May 01 2006 06:49 gulii wrote:
How can Child already be out?
And Sea is already qualified?

Because Sea is at least 2-1 and the two 1-1 guys will play each other. Child is out because even if he wins against Sea and gets 1-2, the other person at 1-2 (GF or Rainbow) will be third and not him, because they won their game against him.

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Orome Switzerland. May 01 2006 07:39. Posts 8403

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On May 01 2006 07:00 gulii wrote:
SO that means that July is out too? And Pusan?

No.
If July wins against Sync and Gorush wins against Rock, there will be tiebreakers for the 2nd and 3rd place between Sync, Rock and July, all of whom would be at 1-2.
If July wins against Sync and Gorush loses to Rock, Gorush and Rock will advance as 2nd and 1st and July will be third, so he'll still have a chance to qualify.
If July loses, he's out.

Same situation for Pusan, except Boxer has Gorush's place, Shinhwa has Rock's and Jju has Sync's.

Edit: At least that's if they go by the head-to-head record to decide 3rd and 4th place, which PoP seems to assume.

Last edit: 2006-05-01 07:41:45

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jkillashark United States. May 01 2006 12:31. Posts 5245

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Thanks i just updated.

Do your best, God will do the rest. 고린도전서 10:31.

FireBlast! United Kingdom. May 01 2006 15:26. Posts 5248

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hmm so a good chance we might still be able to see Pusan and July in the next stage.

Those who claim to know everything are of great annoyance to those of us who do.