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| TheBB Switzerland. February 22 2013 01:16. Posts 4849 | Profile Blog # |
Sorry I'm late today. I had some students to torture.
Contents (thanks wo1fwood, didn't know BBcode could do this)
Shameless plug first: interview on ESFI World.
What is this?
Aligulac.com is an ongoing statistical project and website in development started in December 2012. It offers a comprehensive database of games from the pro and semipro SC2 scene, as well as a unique rating system aimed at rating players and teams, and predicting games. Every two weeks, when a rating list is finalized, I write a post like this.
The FAQ might be able to answer your questions. If not, I'll be keeping an eye on this thread so you can ask away here.
Also, before we start, I want to quote Heartland from one of my previous threads who had this to share, better put into words than I ever could.
On February 03 2013 02:50 Heartland wrote:
I think what's cool and great about this work is that it does what statistics are good for. They give you the ability to create data and then to look at it critically. But maybe people in this thread confuse statistics with the Truth with a capital p (sic). That's not the way you should read statistics, whether in the morning paper or on TL. Rather statistics can make us think about deeper connections that we haven't seen before, twist and turn around concepts and play with them through statistical models. They're not meant to say "Scarlett should be in Code S." Obviously there are flaws or issues with these stats, but it's common for statistics everywhere. What you can do with that is to add or change some modifier, let it meet other forms of reasoning or to extrapolate on what we take for granted.
So yeah, tl;dr, lies, damn lies and statistics are the case with all stats but it's not the point of stats.
So, let's get on with the news.
New features since last time
The player match histories have changed a bit. They don't sort by event, only by date (so it loads much faster for people with tons of games). The list is also filterable by opponent race, nationality (KR/non-KR at least) and series length. For other filtering you can still use this feature.
URLs are now generally human-readable, i.e. http://aligulac.com/players/10-Stephano/ instead of http://aligulac.com/players/10/ (of course the latter will still work).
The ratings are now updated every six hours instead of every two weeks, so you can see them change «live». The periods are still two weeks long. All you're seeing is a preview of the rating list as it would be if it were calculated right now.
The «most specialised» stats on a rating list are now weighted heavier towards the top of the list, to provide more relevant and interesting results.
The rating system now uses the logistic distribution instead of the normal distribution, which should help accuracy in cases where the skill disparity is large.
There have also been some optimizations in the backend that you are unlikely to notice unless I get several hundred concurrent viewers. 
Old features and things you should still know about
Everyone can submit results. Just go here: http://aligulac.com/add/ – some pro players have been scouring their histories and submitting the missing bits (mostly the wins cough, cough), which is great!
Help is still needed! The database is probably the biggest in the world of its kind and it's being maintained by a handful of people. There are still 13,000 matches that have not been catalogued and I dare not imagine how many games we have yet to add. Almost all the Playhem cups are still missing, for example.
People volunteer fairly regularly, but the workload is too damn high for the current staff. For all the rejected TLPD volunteers (I know you are out there, I was one myself) this would be the perfect project.
Anyway, let's get to the juicy bit.
Top 10 players
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 Life 1997
- Leenock 1992
- DongRaeGu 1971
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 PartinG 1966
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 Bomber 1960
- TaeJa 1958
- Rain 1948
- HyuN 1942
- viOLet 1926
- ForGG 1911
In spite of a disappointing GSL Ro16, Life gains 6 points after winning some IPL6 tournament. He passes Leenock, who lost two points mostly on account of a loss to Parting in the FXO Invitational. DongRaeGu, like Life, loses in the GSL, but gains 12 points after manhandling Liquid in IPTL. He passes Taeja, Bomber and Parting, who lose 18, 14 and 12 points respectively. Rain has gone 9–2 these weeks and is awarded with 11 points but no ranks. Hyun and ForGG are the new faces in the top 10, ousting Roro and Hero. Hyun in particular gained 88 points after a nice 41–10 performance.
Top 10 foreigners
- VortiX 1885
- Scarlett 1867
- LucifroN 1866
- Stephano 1854
- Snute 1743
- Sen 1735
- Kas 1730
- TitaN 1709
- Fraer 1687
- Nerchio 1683
Mostly the usual suspects. The Spanish inquisition unexpectedly (of course) gained points after the aAa, IPL D.I.C.E. and VasaCast. Both lost exactly one series these weeks, to each other. Stephano also gains points in spite of his GSL fiasco. The most significant losers are Scarlett (IPL D.I.C.E.) and Snute (too many to mention).
Top 10 teams, all-kill edition
- MVP 91.26%
- StarTale 90.85%
- AZUBU 90.68%
- SK Telecom T1 90.07%
- Incredible Miracle 88.77%
- Team Liquid 88.55%
- FXOpen e-Sports Korea 85.78%
- Evil Geniuses 85.66%
- Prime 85.62%
- STX SouL 84.38%
Top 10 teams, proleague-style edition
- MVP 78.35%
- Incredible Miracle 75.40%
- StarTale 75.28%
- AZUBU 75.07%
- SK Telecom T1 72.89%
- Evil Geniuses 67.24%
- Team Liquid 67.24%
- FXOpen e-Sports Korea 64.95%
- STX SouL 62.34%
- Prime 61.05%
There is a nice correlation between allkill rank and proleage rank. Some teams do change though. It appears that IM and EG have deeper rosters than most. The rank is very close and do note that differences in the 2-3% range are probably insignificant.
Contact us
For comments, feedback, feature requests and especially volunteers, you can reach us by:
- This thread, duh.
- PM. Me.
- IRC: #aligulac on quakenet.
- E-mail to evfonn(at)gmail(dot)com.
- Pilgrimage to Zürich. I will find you.
Thanks to
New guys: Otolia and Susurrus.
Usual suspects: Conti, kiekaboe, Grovbolle, Inflicted, PhoenixVoid and scisyhp.
Others: Day[9] for using his post for this year in my thread. Hendralisk for great feedback.
I have probably forgotten many.
See you in two weeks!Last edit: 2013-02-22 03:43:33 |
| | http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Real men play Zerg or watch MLP. || Stats-poster extraordinaire. |  |
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| StarVe Germany. February 22 2013 01:57. Posts 10131 | Profile # |
| Edit: Forget what I said. Last edit: 2013-02-22 02:14:20 |
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| BreaK Canada. February 22 2013 02:02. Posts 885 | Profile Blog # |
This is so great.
The TLPD game records are so incomplete, it would be great if TL could work with you to integrate Aligulac into TL in some way. |
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| Grovbolle Denmark. February 22 2013 02:05. Posts 2616 | Profile Blog # | |
| | GIVE ME COMMAND - Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com - @Sc2Aligulac - "I don't want Losira to go through because he is Zerg, but because he is Losira, he transcends all race" - TheBB | |
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| StarVe Germany. February 22 2013 02:15. Posts 10131 | Profile # |
Well, yeah, I kinda fucked up. You're right, I completely overlooked that, missed it as I said.
Keep it up, y'all. Maybe I'll try and submit something again some time and then don't fuck it up. D:Last edit: 2013-02-22 02:16:51 |
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| Grovbolle Denmark. February 22 2013 02:17. Posts 2616 | Profile Blog # |
On February 22 2013 02:15 StarVe wrote:
Well, yeah, I kinda fucked up. You're right, I completely overlooked that, missed it as I said.
No problem man  Just checking |
| | GIVE ME COMMAND - Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com - @Sc2Aligulac - "I don't want Losira to go through because he is Zerg, but because he is Losira, he transcends all race" - TheBB | |
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| TheBB Switzerland. February 22 2013 02:22. Posts 4849 | Profile Blog # |
On February 22 2013 02:15 StarVe wrote:
Well, yeah, I kinda fucked up. You're right, I completely overlooked that, missed it as I said.
Keep it up, y'all. Maybe I'll try and submit something again some time and then don't fuck it up. D:
Wow, so apologetic. It's fine. Sheesh. |
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| Targe United Kingdom. February 22 2013 02:24. Posts 1774 | Profile Blog # |
HYUN! Yeahhh!
Thank ya for the update |
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 nomyx United States. February 22 2013 02:30. Posts 2203 | Profile # |
| Fun fact: Life's elo is his birth year. Neat. |
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opterown  Australia. February 22 2013 03:11. Posts 27766 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Otolia France. February 22 2013 04:09. Posts 3069 | Profile Blog # |
| You are flattering me TheBB. I hope I'll can figure in there with significant contribution next time ! |
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| llIH February 22 2013 04:18. Posts 1598 | Profile # | |
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| Boucot France. February 22 2013 05:03. Posts 3126 | Profile # |
| Good job, as usual, keep going ! |
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| fezvez France. February 22 2013 08:12. Posts 980 | Profile Blog # |
If I may, could you describe what is going on with the world's 11th greatest Protoss Titan?
So, he is the top protoss foreigner. And he is currently 9-22 in his most recent matches, and his wins are against "low-level" opponents.
But he is still the best foreigner, and I find it strange. Could you provide a detailed description of how his points went up and down?
He is at 1633, then loses 3-8 to Hyun (roughly 1900) and gets projected at 1800? Is this intended behavior? |
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| TheBB Switzerland. February 22 2013 08:27. Posts 4849 | Profile Blog # |
On February 22 2013 08:12 fezvez wrote:
He is at 1633, then loses 3-8 to Hyun (roughly 1900) and gets projected at 1800? Is this intended behavior?
Where does he get «projected at 1800»? (Not sure exactly what that means.)
There are details for each rating adjustment made here: http://aligulac.com/players/60-TitaN/period/79/
Browse back and forth using the arrows.
If you're thinking about the numbers here: http://aligulac.com/players/60-TitaN/results/ then they are matchup-specific ratings. He has 1633 vZ but the 1797 is vT. You can see Titan has a high PvT rating and a low PvZ rating. All his ratings have mostly been decreasing for the last three months.
On February 22 2013 08:12 fezvez wrote:
If I may, could you describe what is going on with the world's 11th greatest Protoss Titan?
That's your interpretation, not mine.Last edit: 2013-02-22 08:29:20 |
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| Boucot France. February 22 2013 09:55. Posts 3126 | Profile # |
| 23 games winning streak for ForGG, not bad. |
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| neoghaleon55 United States. February 22 2013 10:04. Posts 6198 | Profile Blog # |
god I love these posts.
You color my world theBB |
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| MCXD Australia. February 22 2013 10:14. Posts 2521 | Profile Blog # |
| I feel like this would be a low priority, but would it be possible to eventually implement by-event statistics? By that I mean... say you click on an event, like http://aligulac.com/results/events/449-Proleague/ , then at the top there is a collapsible stats panel which has things like TvP/PvZ/ZvT scores, number of games/players total, etc. Much like TLPD. Last edit: 2013-02-22 10:22:48 |
| | Please check these out and tell me what you think: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398973 |  |
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| Prplppleatr United States. February 22 2013 10:36. Posts 983 | Profile # |
| Just curious...how are you going to handle HOTS? WoL data won't be too relevant...will it be a clean slate? will there be a formula that gives notion to the WoL stats? Will it just be added to the WoL data? |
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| Conti Germany. February 22 2013 10:48. Posts 1253 | Profile # | |
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