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On February 26 2014 10:07 Mocsta wrote: suki. I am confused why u r actually voting me. U have listed actions u think I have taken, yet failed to comment on why those actions are scummy. Can u go into more detail please. I think it's a legitimate question by suki. If she was the scummiest player so far why not just vote her? Yet Mocsta refuses to answer -> scummy? On February 26 2014 10:51 TheChyz wrote: Hi all. Mocsta seems pretty town to me atm. In his last game (as scum, GSL open mini) his contributions in the middle of day 2 or 3 were worse than they seem right now. geript, why is it unlikely that rayn and toad can't be scum together? Awful first post. Not so happy with TheChyz's follow up posts as well. On February 26 2014 10:56 Toadesstern wrote: yeah I didn't want to add that to keep it a bit simpler or rather, it's directly implied. I don't understand how you can be so sure in giving each other town reads after this conversation. If the two of you know each others meta and reasoning so well this line of questioning might be intentional hoping for the other to give you a town read. I don't like it. And I certainly don't have any town reads based on this miller thing. After all this paint art that's all you came up with? That's not a scum slip. And you don't even push this any further. On February 26 2014 11:57 Mocsta wrote: hmmm started off by wanting to write a case on Suki but now ended up as nullish. Anyways for reference: + Show Spoiler + (1) On February 26 2014 09:08 suki wrote: For me, if you want to fake claim, you just do it.Hey guys, so I moved my thing that I had tonight to Wednesday day/night so I'm here now. I had to read my role pm a few times because it's kind of weird but anyways I'm Harry Potter. My power is I can shoot ##spells at people and make them do things. If we lynch correctly I learn new spells. Right now my spell list is: ##Expeliarmus - Makes target sheeping player provide reasoning on their vote otherwise they have to unvote. "I am HP, I have #spells" blah blah . The addition of "having to read my role pm a few times because it's kind of weird" is verbose and the type of fluff I find people write to make themselves feel safe with a lie <--- indicative of a mafia mindset. (2) On February 26 2014 09:38 Mocsta wrote: Sukmi U seem most out of place for me so far Everyone else is relatively carefree whereas u seem more try hard - in particular your claim is overly worded I get the history with toad, but your approach is not conducive towards gleaning alignment either On February 26 2014 09:42 suki wrote: So are you saying I'm scummy? On February 26 2014 09:43 Mocsta wrote: Scummiest so far, yes On February 26 2014 09:47 suki wrote: So then why isn't your vote on me? On February 26 2014 09:55 Mocsta wrote: This is an unusually passive aggressive approach for early game.- And something I throw out as scum all the time. Instead of trying to understand if my read on u is genuine or feigned, u play the psychological game and twist my lack of vote as something scummy. That diversion is it self very scummy. Now suki, were u aware harry potter is not in the game?? On February 26 2014 10:01 suki wrote: I've read this exchange a couple times and come to the same conclusion... null.lol what. ##vote Mocsta I never said anything you were doing so far was scummy, so who is twisting whose words? You, on the other hand, seem really intent on twisting the things I say to be scummy. Also I'm Harry Potter, of course I'm in the game. (and for the record I'm a different Harry Potter than the game rayn linked). I completely agree with what I wrote: "so then why isn't your vote on me?" is very passive aggressive for early Day1 and is a precursor to calling somebody scum. HOWEVER, I can't shake the feeling that Suki is retorting emotionally/personally -- which ties in with being called not Suki prior -- and thus makes me consider this is a townie going passive aggressive based on anger. (3) The rest of the filter makes me lean town somewhat. Im leaning towards I haven't communicated my position well, and Suki has interpreted me the wrong way. Mocsta, I like the reasoning where you explain why this could be said with a mafia mindset. But I wouldn't have picked it up on my own. I think it's suspicious that you did, maybe you are thinking with a mafia mindset and therefore spotted this immediately? On February 26 2014 12:19 gumshoe wrote: I will talk about how easy a mislynch I am all day everyday, so I can bitch about it later on when I get mislynched XD I see no reason to differentiate myself between games, being consistent overall makes me harder to read, which benefits my overall play, Also last nail bite, I don't like how you came into the game threatening me over my activity and then proceeded to berate me for said play, honestly I feel like you had me as a fixed target no matter what I'd do, and although you claimed to want responses from me you were eager to start pushing me in my brief absence, so that when I did return I would be arguing from lower ground. Very particular of you / : the more I think about it the more I feel like a bump on the agenda. Gumshoe seems to make a huge deal out of this "case" on him. It's not helpful at all and quite an easy topic to talk about if you can't actually contribute with content. Page 24 now. | ||
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On February 26 2014 12:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now this is exactly what gumshoe does. His scumplay is actually far better than his townplay because he realizes what town wants to hear and contributes towards that. As town he makes absolutely awful posts (sorry gumshoe ^^) that might not say anything at all or have one thought which might be "i don't know what X is doing" and there are 1000 words around it that explain his thoguht process and where he found that information that was in the end useless. He literally posts exactly what is in his mind at that time and it ends up in terrible posts that are like the easiest thing ever to attack. Now the green part in the quote makes me 100% sure WaveofShadow knows this. I also went to check on last couple of games where i remember both of gumshoe and Wave being town and gumshoe making his typical posts: Quiet game mini mafia: EOD1, we have outed mafia. gumshoe comes in 20min before the deadline, ignores the outed mafia and makes a hugeass case on Wave. Wave does not even consider gumshoe being mafia, in fact based on his N1 posting he says the opposite. TL Mafia LXIV: gumshoe makes terrible posts on D1 (like "vote me for mayor because i am so bad") and says nothing all D1. Wave never talks about gumshoe on D1, at all. Now both of these games in addition to my first quote from Wave support my argument that Wave knows gumshoe's meta pretty well. However, in this game, here is Wave's reasoning for voting for gumshoe: Here is the post in question: See, a big fucking thought process that ends in somewhat bad conclusion (that really says nothing). Now Wave's reasoning for calling this conclusion scummy is really terrible. First of all there is nothing scummy to not think about a conclusion you didn't think of because... YOU DIDN'T THINK OF IT! Second of all this is all characteristic to gumshoe's townplay, which Wave very well knows taking account he correctly described gumshoe's town!meta earlier on. This case on gumshoe is horrible and is not from a townie @rayn: So you think gumshoe is town? On February 26 2014 13:27 WaveofShadow wrote: To spite you at this point I suppose. I'm coming around to him but let me get there on my own. Find scum, not reasons to push town gumshoe on me. Now if I'm wrong about suki (which knowing my newbie reads I very well could be), you think that she didn't respond to gumshoe because he is right? @WoS: I don't even understand this suki - gumshoe problem. Why does gumshoe have to be scum or right in order for suki to not take this case serious? On February 26 2014 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: No i am saying i do think it's odd that you don't find it odd that a case that is really bad to you doesn't seem any bad to suki, who is the target of the case. Usually townies, when facing a bad case against them call it bad and are very vocal about it, especially when we are talking about suki here, who calls all the cases against her bad when she is town. So this is not odd at all to you? Can someone confirm this meta? On February 26 2014 13:48 Cavalinho wrote: You can read your own analysis of him from, like, a page ago and get an answer. First post?! On February 26 2014 15:19 TheChyz wrote: Ye, I played reckless. So I'm not allowed to play differently and have my philosophies change? Don't know what your leading to. All your doing is pointing out a playstyle that you probably don't agree with. Doesn't mean you have to like it. And im pretty sure both you and I would actually rather try to look for actual scum then keep talking about this thread clogging argument. Yes? So how is your new playstyle helping in finding scum? You seem to only comment on cases when you are asked to. On February 26 2014 16:34 Mocsta wrote: Caught up and re-read Current reads: Wave Suki Gumshoe Calvalinho toadesstern ange777 jarjardrinks vivax geript Holyflare thechyz rayn Will expound in a bit. swamped @ work. How does Calvalinho got a town read? And how did suki go from null to town? On February 26 2014 16:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno but i think Mocsta just scumslipped. Where? On February 26 2014 17:10 Mocsta wrote: Issues with TheChyz + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2014 10:51 TheChyz wrote: Reading this a few times I take issue not with calling me town, but by him making a reference to the quality of my contributions. This suggests he agrees somewhat with the Suki read (which was my only contribution at the point in time). The rest of his filter lethargically references Suki once.Hi all. Mocsta seems pretty town to me atm. In his last game (as scum, GSL open mini) his contributions in the middle of day 2 or 3 were worse than they seem right now. geript, why is it unlikely that rayn and toad can't be scum together? On February 26 2014 10:53 TheChyz wrote: Firstly, Vivax/Kush were town, so the comparison is not apples to apples - as has already been discussed.Nothing to do with reads, just the way your playing. Back in that game it seemed like you and vivax/kush were just posting to fill up the thread and waste the day. Here it seems more like your actually trying to scum hunt. That combined with the fact you haven't claimed scum yet Secondly, perhaps you can tie "trying to scum hunt" with the contributions discussed above. However, again, this indicates that either TheChyz agrees with my read (a la Gumshoe) or thinks my motives are genuine. Which is important to keep in mind later. On February 26 2014 11:16 TheChyz wrote: Here, TheChyz casually queries Suki indicating that he does not share my read. The question posed will not provide any alignment indicative response either.Ionno suki, are you going to come in and provide any attempt at reads or just ask questions all day long? As per your question, I have hunches on some things, but nothing I feel is actually worth saying atm. Further, TheChyz is now dangling the "active lurker" carrot; which is odd, considering of all the things he chose to talk about, he wanted to discuss me as a town read -- when I wasn't under any specific heat either. On February 26 2014 11:20 TheChyz wrote: The timing of this post just feel premature and the stance is odd. On one hand it is berating Holyflare for joking; on the other hand, its not asking HF to particpate in any direction that will improve our read on him. Its essentially a slap on the wrist post with no further intent.I'm not sure if this is because this is how he plays but holyflare has been making jokes all day 1. Seems like an easy way to get a free pass on the first day if everybody just knows your gonna joke around. The time for joking 24/7 is over I think, is there anything useful you plan on doing this day holyflare, or just gonna draw some more? On February 26 2014 12:46 TheChyz wrote: The phrasing is not fluid or natural to me.To me it seems more like JJD has only tunneled on Mocsta for a read that mocsta made on suki. Apart from that he has done nothing really after that. Also in bold, I have never as town thought "does calling you something make me look scummy". It's only something scum usually worries about. Regarding fluidity: I think this would be written "Also in bold, as town I never have thought "xxxx" Regarding natural: I know when I've rolled scum, i often write a statement, proof read and then go.. ahh.. let me add "when town" typically at the end. This feels very much the same. i.e. the "as town" component is a last addition designed to give strength to the argument. On February 26 2014 14:42 TheChyz wrote: This post has already been commented by others and I agree. Its an unusual position to take. Normally you would just say "hes null".I don't think he's mafia, but I do think this sentence "But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case" is scummy. He is addressing himself to mocsta and basically saying (or this is how I read it, maybe misinterpreted) that if he [JJD] calls Mocsta town and sheeps that case it will make him [JJD] look scummier. And I don't understand why a town would be afraid of having a "scummier" image. If you are town, you know your intent was not scummy and you can give an explanation out of it. However if your scum it seems more likely that you are afraid of your image. On February 26 2014 16:38 TheChyz wrote: The important thing to note is that previously TheChyz stated he would only comment if something is wroth commenting on. So why... is he so fixated on someone calling "Rayn/Toad" town.kk. With geript I still have a problem of how he was so quick to say that rayn and toad couldn't be scum together. There was no explanation why he made that conclusion until I finally made him answer with All of these points are terrible. It seems more like he just put out some random statement and after being asked to answer on it it seems like he is backtracking. See how he goes to make several points. Not only does it seem like he is trying to be over defensive but that most of them are just a big pile of poop. Let's go over the points: 1) I don't even know what chummy means but it seems like the way you guys are acting early on. Again that doesn't really say anything and is something anybody can say about almost anything. 2) He is backtracking to a joke rayn made that makes him town? Well shit i think he just solved mafia. People making jokes = town. I don't understand the context but I believe that is irrelevant. 3) I don't even understand this one. Something again that rayn is towny to him. 4) Saying how its unlikely for something to happen which does not seem unlikely at all. In all of these points, NOTHING again answers why he think rayn and toad cannot be scum together. If anything it seems more like he is developing a rayn town read. This all seems like a load of backtracking and most likely hoping that he wouldn't get called out for his words before hand. Apart from that everything else just has no effort to even try and scum hunt. Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now. ##Vote geript He seems to refuse to accept they can both be town; yet, hasnt given a direct indication of his read on either player. Very scummy. In summary: Overall, TheChyz arguments have been weak and offer no insight into his thought process. He is calling out people prematurely (e.g. Holyflare + Rayn/Toad) yet doesnt indicatve whether he reads those players town or scum. He also prematurely calls me town when not under fire for my scumhunting, yet doesnt seem to support my reads. Lastly, he goes out of his way to dodge questions (e.g. to Suki). Now, TheChyz could be super paranoid town that doesnt want to give away information. HOWEVER, I dont attribute his posting as giving that vibe. I suppose this is epitomised by: This is a guy that is intentionally trying to dodge giving out any insight AND THAT is scummy. I don't like the case. I don't like TheChyz myself but this case feels like it's trying too hard. Like when you reproach him for the post regarding Holyflare's paint spree. Yes, he could have phrased his post differently with a direct urge for Holyflare to provide content. But I don't see how (ironically) asking him whether he will continue or not makes TheChyz actually scummy. To me it seems like you are actively trying to put suspicion on all his posts, even on posts that are just null. On February 26 2014 17:59 TheChyz wrote: @Moscta, because most of the cases one me are weak as hell and the only thing I agree with is that I had been making fairly soft cases early on and not pushing my reads. Why would you say that? It's fine if you just make soft cases early on but why would you not push your own reads? On February 26 2014 20:47 Holyflare wrote: TheChyz you were getting called out for your filter not really saying much and your response was that you don't like to call someone mafia for doing 1 scummy thing, yet, in the next few posts you make a case on geript that literally only focuses on 1 aspect of his play (although he has shit all yes). What changed between those few posts that you felt compelled to make a case on someone who isn't doing much, has been talked about for the exact reasons you posted before and is doing nothing before you have even talked to them? + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2014 15:12 TheChyz wrote: You guys can play having 1 scummy thing on someone and immediately call them mafia. I don't. On February 26 2014 16:38 TheChyz wrote: kk. With geript I still have a problem of how he was so quick to say that rayn and toad couldn't be scum together. There was no explanation why he made that conclusion until I finally made him answer with All of these points are terrible. It seems more like he just put out some random statement and after being asked to answer on it it seems like he is backtracking. See how he goes to make several points. Not only does it seem like he is trying to be over defensive but that most of them are just a big pile of poop. Let's go over the points: 1) I don't even know what chummy means but it seems like the way you guys are acting early on. Again that doesn't really say anything and is something anybody can say about almost anything. 2) He is backtracking to a joke rayn made that makes him town? Well shit i think he just solved mafia. People making jokes = town. I don't understand the context but I believe that is irrelevant. 3) I don't even understand this one. Something again that rayn is towny to him. 4) Saying how its unlikely for something to happen which does not seem unlikely at all. In all of these points, NOTHING again answers why he think rayn and toad cannot be scum together. If anything it seems more like he is developing a rayn town read. This all seems like a load of backtracking and most likely hoping that he wouldn't get called out for his words before hand. Apart from that everything else just has no effort to even try and scum hunt. Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now. Did kiterayn just fly away on you? ##Vote geript I like this. Page 34. | ||
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On February 26 2014 22:06 Mocsta wrote: I find it completely different because in the town game he shows an inquisitive mindset and even from a skim its clear he has his own thoughts on the game., Look with suki, there sa massive change in style between shadow and shadow reboot. Just overall light heartedness. From glancing over the town n scum games; personally i still think she is town; HOWEVER, I also have noticed that after the first 24hrs or so she tends to produce analytical posts. I suggest this will be the best way to get an accurate read on her. Unfortunately its highly possible she will bandwagon Chz (which is relatively legitimate as either alginment) so I am not actually sure how much weight to give that. meh. bored now. What makes you believe she will bandwagon Chz? Just because she made that comment before she left? She had you as her #1 scum read. On February 26 2014 22:23 Toadesstern wrote: wait, how come noone considers this thing HF pointed out worth talking about: Is a scumslip according to HF and I see where he's coming from because it doesn't look like Mocsta is even considering the possibility of JJD being mafia. He just flat out states that he's town without reasoning to "prove" his own towniness. At the very least this is worth some talking So if this isn't the scum slip, can someone please explain it? On February 26 2014 22:24 geript wrote: [/b]Toad calls for millers to claim Rayn asks Toad if he's a miller Toad says no but he likes the question Rayn's response to Toadescum is like really really towny; it's an exceptionally off the cuff and funny that it's very hard to come from scum. The problem is that it's rayn and he's done this as either alignment many times. So that's why it's only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn. The thing is, at no point does any of this help read Toad; the initial miller thing isn't alignment indicative; recognizing Rayn's response as towny isn't alignment indicative. Like the only thing that's happened since him returning to the thread for him is nothing. If he were town, he'd at least try to give me an honest read. But since he's not he's probably just scum who fixated on a dashing sexy guy. [b/##unvote ##vote toadescum To be honest, I am still not sure about Toad-geript. I'll have to reread their conversation but right now I can't understand the scum reads they gave each other. On February 26 2014 22:34 Mocsta wrote: JJd, since you are here. Thoughts on Chz and Suki pls. (Regarding Suki, i get you think she was carefree at the start, but what about overall) Why are you so fixated on suki? She is supposedly a town read for you but I don't see you talking about your other scum reads rayn and Holyflare. On February 27 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote: Best of geript 1) My townread on Rayn makes no sense It makes an awful lot of sense. There's 3 reasons for stating rayn is town in that situation, 1 being a minor one, 2 being big ones.
A mafia rayn calling you town would make you read him as town. Wouldn't that be a major reason for him? On February 27 2014 00:53 geript wrote: Toad confirmed liar. Miller thing was trolly and he fucking knows it. His reads for calling Rayn town a fraking stupid; not wonky or weird enough to be towny. Just completely made up and not alignment indicative for anyone let alone Rayn. Third, he's completely taking things out of context and not even trying to understand how you can get a townie response from Rayn while the miller thing on his half is completely null. Anyone who can't see this needs to go back to the newbies for a year. It's completely fucking obvious. Ok, I think I got it now. Geript fails to understand how Toad can give rayn a town read which makes Toad scum whch in turn makes Toad think geript is scum? Somehow I think both their cases are just horrible. I think Toad was too focused in his beliefs that he didn't see another possibility and the same applies to geript. I don't see how anyone would be willing to lynch them based on this (Page 38) so maybe use your passion to find other possble scum players? On February 27 2014 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Les Mafia indicates JJD is town this game. Explain please. On February 27 2014 05:52 geript wrote: I think he's town but that's only based on his post about having to go to his computer to post or something. WaveofShadow Holyflare gumshoe Ange777 Toadesstern Cavalinho JarJarDrinks TheChyz soft tho suki raynpelikoneet Mocsta soft tho Vivax Geript So what do yout hink about suki and gumshoe? I haven't really looked at them. Can you explain TheChyz and Mocsta reads please? On February 27 2014 06:06 Toadesstern wrote: since the list-posting mood seems to go around, here's mine: Explain Holy please. Page 47. I have to leave but will be back later (hopefully in a few hours). Right now I'd probably lynch Mocsta, runner up would be TheChyz. | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:59 TheChyz wrote: I was getting shit for playing the way I wanted to play and people wouldn't stop circlejerking around the fact that I don't play like they expect. So instead of trying to argue about philosophies in which is such a tangential topic I decided that I would have to learn to play the TL way and give them what they expect of me and that is to make a case. And also I had my thoughts on geript as most scummy for quiet some time in the game so thats why I talked about him. This explanation sounds terrible. There must be some reasoning behind your playstyle if you initially thought it to be better. It seems like you felt pressured to give up your orignal plan, maybe because you were nervous because you rolled scum? On February 27 2014 08:18 Cavalinho wrote: Because I died immediately last game. I'm going to try being much more measured instead of just posting shit and seeing what happens. This is your idea of measured posting? If there wasn't so much scummy behaviour in the thread, this is the attitude I'd like to lynch. On February 27 2014 09:38 WaveofShadow wrote: VIVAX Let's begin: Vivax's opening post (not counting the geript townseal horseshit). Initially when I looked at this I thought it was worth some town points given that he can come up with a narrative on gumshoe that made a good deal of sense and was from a POV I nor anyone else in the thread had considered thus far. I was wrong about this as Rayn showed me---JJD essentially mentioned it earlier, though obviously not nearly this fleshed-out. It's actually not too bad except for two things. The first being the bolded section: gumshoe 'overjustifies' by giving reasons for sheeping Mocsta and trying to bring his own opinion to someone else's case/scumread. Townies do this all the friggin' time, and I see no reason why this is scum-indicative alone. If town doesn't want to sheep for no reason then gumshoe is doing the right thing AND providing his own reasons for agreeing with Mocsta. The second problem with this was brought up before: why now? Vivax finally explains here after being endlessly prodded: Now there is nothing wrong with that on its own but Vivax shows here that he has none of the townie desire to 'get to the bottom of things' and figure out what gumshoe's alignment truly is. I find the post 'interesting' as I mentioned earlier and he posts this: How is the fact that there was a MASSIVE discussion around determining gumshoe's alignment irrelevant if that is the purpose of posting a case on him in the first place? Like that's basic scumhunting 101---find scum. Vivax posts a case and just asks for comments, he doesn't actually seem to be interested in figuring out gumshoe at all. + Show Spoiler + (BAD ASSOCIATION READ - never mind the fact that an obvious answer as to why he brought up gumshoe is as scum he doesn't want a town mislynch of gumshoe off the table, but that's weak. Just something to consider) I mentioned this post earlier and immediately I got the willies. Shitting on thread atmosphere when basically everyone in here has been (apparently) earnestly trying in one form or another to do some determination, and Vivax has the nerve to come in here after doing dick all and call out others. Also important to note is the preemptive lurker call. This is scum mindset right here: call myself out for something real easy so nobody else has the chance to do so. And hey, if anyone brings this up, I can always say: "Well why as scum would I draw attention to myself in that way?" There are many scum who have no issues drawing attention to themselves, me included. Vivax doesn't strike me as being afraid of the spotlight. It sounds WIFOMy but it absolutely isn't. It shows clear scum guilt and a scum mindset. Town has absolutely no reason to post this. And yet, this: Vivax puts a lot of effort into making a case that calls me hypocritical and yet does similar things himself. He calls out gumshow for not gathering info for town and yet town wants his Chyz read,which he refuses to offer. He gives his reasoning later in here: But I disagree with this, and apparently so does Rayn. I find absolutely no reasoning why you can't provide a townread, ESPECIALLY when providing said townread allows people to get a read of YOU. It has NOTHING to do with town circlejerking around each other's reads, this post makes it simply seem like you're avoiding giving the Chyz read above because it's bullshit and you don't want people reading you because of it. Vivax's points also reek of someone who is trying to come up with justification as he goes along: Already commented on this---uses 'feels' to try to make me look bad even though whether 'feels' are ACTUALLY bad or not doesn't matter worth a damn to me and people who have played with me since I started using them know that. Has absolutely nothing to do with the main set of points he tries to use against me---the perceived hypocrisy which in fact, ISN'T. He neglects to mention this last point in that case full of effort I linked above, why just drop it here? Oh I know, just looking for more random crap to paint me in a scummy light, despite the fact that (as I already explained) I did in fact read the gumshoe scumgame and it was part of what very obviously led me to be very unsure of gumshoe's alignment as he is hyper-aware of his own meta. More 'justification trying' below: Complains about gumshoe sheeping weakly while adding a random point for overjustification earlier...well what do you know! Look here! 'FIlterskim-' yeah that basically sums up Vivax's efforts this game. Association reads Mocsta based on his random-ass townread of me and takes a basically inane question and calls it scummy. Bingo, good enough to sheep Rayn! TL;DR Vivax has a clear scum agenda throughout his posting. He has no desire to actually read through the filters of any of his scumspects (Mocsta, me, gumshoe), provides weak reads that are all then dropped---he cba to actually figure out the alignment of the people he talks about because he doesn't have to DO that as scum. When he does he comes up with his reads and what he wants to do FIRST and adds in weak justification points later---not the towny way, bro. Vivax is obvscum to me at this point. A much stronger read than Mocsta (at least to me) and I believe he needs to be lynched. No more ignoring the points I'm bringing up about Vivax, I expect people to read this and if they still find Vivax towny, I want to know WHY. If you're all still on Mocsta you can at the very least have a look at this before he comes back. After reading this case a second time I'm inclined to agree. I'll have to reread Vivax's filter again though. On February 27 2014 10:02 suki wrote: Like for all the activity in the thread so many people have been called out as scum and there's no consensus. Toad and geript are at each others throats. Mocsta is being wagoned on. Thechyz, vivax now, gumshoe, wave. All of them can't possibly be mafia Usually town has some direction day one.this game there is none Although this thread is incredibly hard to follow with all the spamming, most of it seems really useful (especially after day 1). I believe that this day 1 has been productive (besides Toad and geript going at each other) in giving us a lot to work with. Why are you complaining? Page 54. 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On February 27 2014 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: In GSL BH actually did promise Mocsta to roll him town and didn't (because what's the point of hydraing if you are scum?!?). So either Mocsta has requested the same thing again and didnt' get it or he is modconfirming himself as town in which case he should be modkilled. Page 58. Why would Mocsta be modconfirmed town based on that comment?? | ||
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Right now it's between suki, Vivax and Mocsta and Vivax just claimed blue right? | ||
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I am not sure about Vivax. That claim is just so unnecessecary. | ||
Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
I'd vote for suki or Mocsta, don't really know right now which one of them is scummier. Given the fact that my better town reads are voting suki, I'll sheep them for now. ##Vote: suki | ||
Ange777
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