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United States7488 Posts
This is something that interests me, so I thought others might be interested as well. Perhaps it could also be a tool for Liquibets and such. At the very least it can provide information about the current racial balances and imbalaces of the season.
SHARED MAPS
LONGINUS II TvZ: 14:09. ZvP: 03:05. PvT: 04:04. TvZ + TvP = 18:13 (58.1%) ZvT + ZvP = 12:19 (38.7%) PvT + PvZ = 09:07 (56.3%)
REVERSE TEMPLE TvZ: 10:05. ZvP: 05:02. PvT: 08:01. TvZ + TvP = 11:13 (45.8%) ZvT + ZvP = 10:12 (45.5%) PvT + PvZ = 10:06 (62.5%)
OSL MAPS
NEO ARKANOID TvZ: 04:06. ZvP: 02:00. PvT: 00:01. TvZ + TvP = 05:06 (45.5%) ZvT + ZvP = 08:04 (66.7%) PvT + PvZ = 00:03 (0.0%)
HITCH HIKER TvZ: 06:05. ZvP: 00:01. PvT: 01:01. TvZ + TvP = 07:06 (53.8%) ZvT + ZvP = 05:07 (41.7%) PvT + PvZ = 02:01 (66.7%)
MSL MAPS
BLITZ X TvZ: 05:04. ZvP: 04:04. PvT: 03:04. TvZ + TvP = 09:07 (56.3%) ZvT + ZvP = 08:08 (50.0%) PvT + PvZ = 07:08 (46.7%)
DESERT FOX TvZ: 04:03. ZvP: 02:04. PvT: 01:06. TvZ + TvP = 10:04 (71.4%) ZvT + ZvP = 05:08 (38.5%) PvT + PvZ = 05:08 (38.5%)
I will do my best to keep these statistics up to date as more matches occur. It should be accurate, but if anyone sees any errors please let me know and I can go back and check it out. Is there something else I could add?
Four of the six maps have a favorable winning percentage for Terran (and Desert Fox being especially good). It seems as if the cries early in the season about Terran imbalances are fairly accurate.
Unfortunately for Zerg, only Neo Arkanoid presents a winning percentage above 50%. Though for only having one, Zerg's record on that map looks quite good. Zerg definately seems to be suffering this season.
On a couple of the maps, there just aren't enough games with Protoss to determine who those matchups favor, though currently it looks like they have an equal number of favorable and unfavorable maps.
Blitz X looks to be undeniably the most balanced map, though Hitch Hiker may not be as unbalanced as it might have first been thought to be.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
Few Protosses is because of few Protosses making it into the main rounds to play on the maps more is because they lose in ODT or Survivor is because ZVP IMBA!!! =( =( =(
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Thanks for the statistics.
Desert Fox's PvT statistics looks horrible. 6-1? ewww.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
in all seriousness, there is SERIOUS selection bias in this. it takes the cross-section of only the very best of every race, and moreover tilted in favor of the best of each race. (advancing to finals means you play on the map more, etc.)
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Haji and i are in the process of making a database that will include info such as that, day to day match results, player stats, map stats, golden fountains that spray out skittles and smarties, and all sorts of other wonderful stuff.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Thanks for compiling that info!!
In case anybody else had trouble understanding the numbers:
13 T v. 09 Z Terran: 17 wins & 13 losses (56.7%) 02 Z v. 04 P Zerg: 11 wins & 17 losses (39.3%) 04 P v. 04 T Protoss: 8 wins & 6 losses (57.1%)
means:
TvZ: 13:09. TvZ + TvP = 17:13 (total non-mirror matchup stats for terran that map) ZvP: 02:04. ZvT + ZvP = 11:17 PvT: 04:04. PvT + PvZ = 08:06
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
OHHH now i get it
lol @ arkanoid and desert fox
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United States7488 Posts
On February 07 2007 22:36 Polemarch wrote: Thanks for compiling that info!!
In case anybody else had trouble understanding the numbers:
13 T v. 09 Z Terran: 17 wins & 13 losses (56.7%) 02 Z v. 04 P Zerg: 11 wins & 17 losses (39.3%) 04 P v. 04 T Protoss: 8 wins & 6 losses (57.1%)
means:
TvZ: 13:09. TvZ + TvP = 17:13 (total non-mirror matchup stats for terran that map) ZvP: 02:04. ZvT + ZvP = 11:17 PvT: 04:04. PvT + PvZ = 08:06
Your way looks a lot cleaner and easier to understand. I modified mine to match.
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these maps are a "fuck you" to zerg and whats even funnier, protosses are the only one that cry "imba!"
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On February 08 2007 02:38 WiljushkA wrote: these maps are a "fuck you" to zerg and whats even funnier, protosses are the only one that cry "imba!"
yea but somehow there are no / so little tosses in the starleagues o_O
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desert fox and neo arkanoid have created so many bad games. why do island maps still exist?
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On February 08 2007 02:56 zulu_nation8 wrote: desert fox and neo arkanoid have created so many bad games. why do island maps still exist?
Well they both barely qualify as isles anyway. : [
why cant the leagues just pick a plain map(RLT? I dunno), a T map(Longinus?), a Z map(Arcadia?) and a real island map for Protoss.
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United Arab Emirates5090 Posts
On February 08 2007 02:54 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2007 02:38 WiljushkA wrote: these maps are a "fuck you" to zerg and whats even funnier, protosses are the only one that cry "imba!" yea but somehow there are no / so little tosses in the starleagues o_O pwned WiljushkA
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On February 08 2007 03:20 red.venom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2007 02:56 zulu_nation8 wrote: desert fox and neo arkanoid have created so many bad games. why do island maps still exist? Well they both barely qualify as isles anyway. : [ why cant the leagues just pick a plain map(RLT? I dunno), a T map(Longinus?), a Z map(Arcadia?) and a real island map for Protoss.
cause then in bo3's the first two maps you play would kinda determine the winner
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On February 08 2007 03:38 pyrogenetix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2007 02:54 alffla wrote:On February 08 2007 02:38 WiljushkA wrote: these maps are a "fuck you" to zerg and whats even funnier, protosses are the only one that cry "imba!" yea but somehow there are no / so little tosses in the starleagues o_O pwned WiljushkA no, pwned the protoss race :p
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Calgary25938 Posts
Although interesting, please don't draw any conclusions from this. The sample size is less than 20 in many cases.
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