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On June 02 2016 22:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: oh i prefer dota if I'm going to play a moba. It's just that all I remember is entire hours of my life being wasted in games where I wasn't even having fun. Hmm I find dota a lot more relaxing than starcraft, that's pretty much why I ended up making the transition (well SC->LoL->dota) | ||
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On June 02 2016 22:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: oh yeah definitely. It's just like in dota your team feeds or you feed, then for the next 30 minutes you are stuck in an unwinnable game where no one is trying. And after the game you're like "wow that game really sucked," and now half my night is gone. Yeah that's a fair point. I've been playing Overwatch recently, and I realize that I actually miss the downtime. In dota if things go bad, it either ends pretty quickly or you have it be drawn out. Then there's a couple minutes of queue time, through all of this you can decompress and reset for the next game. In Overwatch things can go poorly forever with no breaks, it's weird I don't think I've ever gotten so mad from playing a game... still fun tho | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:41 QuickTwist wrote: You want them to get mod killed if they can prove they are Town? Whaaaa? I'm afraid I don't follow, how mod killed? Just want to lynch if they are followers of Cesar > | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:49 QuickTwist wrote: Lets think about this for a moment. What's the only way someone can prove their role in this game? I'll give you a hint: Its against the rules. Ah OK, I understand what you are saying. | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:07 QuickTwist wrote: I;m getting a town read on Sup... for really no reason. On June 04 2016 08:14 QuickTwist wrote: Town read on Jealous. On June 04 2016 08:16 QuickTwist wrote: Town read on Tumble A lot of reads, not sure where from. Purpose could be to create conversation. Seems towny, trying to get more information out of people. On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote: I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this. Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess. Taking the second level logic approach and scum reading superior. Overall agressive and bold claims. Agressive seems scummy, but seems risky to put yourself out so much early on. I can see the information seeking thought process, even if I don't agree with the overall thought process. Read: I'm thinking he's pretty town | ||
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See above lol was looking through filter Also, what is the best way to keep up with these games? Just sub threads + filters? | ||
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On June 04 2016 23:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: Talk to me buddy. Does Quicktwist and Jealous feel like two townies caught in an argument against each other and refusing to back down due to pride or is one of them Mafia? For some reason I keep getting hints of the second even though it really looks like the first. QT v Jealous has obviously dominated the first few pages so far. I've been thinking similarly, but that there is a third option as well --- I'm not sure how likely that is though. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote: the folly in this is that no one "protects themselves from further inspection" by posting images instead of responses, nor is that "key for scum to do". qt should not be afraid of the pressure you are putting on him because it is weak pressure (in the sense that it is convincing no one else) and it does not help him avoid inspection. Here it looks like tumble is putting pressure on Jealous. This is based off of defense for QT, since he gave strong townread to QT earlier here: On June 04 2016 09:20 Tumblewood wrote: shitty early d1 reads that I shouldn't be making town: superbia, qt town lean: emperor null: moosy scum lean: jealous scum: [pending further posts] To which is commented: On June 04 2016 09:21 Tumblewood wrote: if asked to defend any of my reads right now I will only respond by saying "feels" So now that we've framed the context of the first post, I think that there are two ways of interpreting it: 1) He is protecting QT-pie 2) He's calling a bad play a bad play From the previous context, I would think former, but reading the following posts I think the ladder: On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote: what but why it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote: his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden. townread suspended On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote: ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2 or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. In my mind, it seems that there is some sort of triangle between QT-pie, tumble and Jealsus. At first I was thinking that QT/tumble could be a pair, but "6/10" lynch is pretty strong against that, although maybe tumble doesn't think the QT vote will go through so he doesn't have to push it? Jealsus/QT-pie: there are 3 options: 1) both town, 2) town and maf 3) both maf. I think that 3) is pretty unlikely, seems like such a ballsy play to carry out those shenanigans. I think that 2) is more likely than 1). Jealsus/tumble: I think it's fairly well summarized from the post above: "ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills". Also: "Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment" So from this, I find that Jealous is a common thread in all of this, so I would be interested in hearing why he isn't maf, or what he is trying to accomplish aside from generating pages of noise against QT-pie. My towny read on QT still stands, and I think that tumble has shown some decent thought, so I think that I'm leaning town on him as well. Therefore, my maf read sits with Jealous since I want to see how these 3 players unravel. | ||
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On June 05 2016 01:33 Tictock wrote: Ok I piddled around too long and am not going to be able to elaborate as much as I wanted to about my scum reads, but here is the short and sweet version. QT - There is just too many inconsistencies in his play for me to overlook. He pushed Super early for "trying to look town" + Show Spoiler + which is a terrible reason to scumread anyone, especially when that doesn't reall describe Super's play at all imo not openly giving my reads Sorry no time for examples Emperorchampion - I liked his open, but the rest of his posts fall flat and he quickly dropped the attitude he started with. The way he spent a lot of effort filterdiving QT + Show Spoiler + filters so early in the game? Thats it for now, I may get a chance to post later tonight, but likely won't be around till tomorrow. ##Vote: QuickTwist Filter diving, I like the term To be honest, with regards to filter diving, I'm just not really sure the best way to play the game, so I'm trying things to see what works out. | ||
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Merci! Anyhow, I'm out for a bit, we'll see how things shake out in a bit. | ||
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