I got to diamond after i gave up trying to play other characters and just started being a dirty Bastion main, I started every game explaining to the team that some games can be instantly won by a bastion because teams don't adapt more often than not and i'm a pretty good bastion i'll swap off if it's not working. Good Bastions, Hanzos, Widows, Genji, Phara can carry games just because teams don't swap heroes to respond really finding a group of 3 people+ really changes how the game gets played.
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I got to diamond after i gave up trying to play other characters and just started being a dirty Bastion main, I started every game explaining to the team that some games can be instantly won by a bastion because teams don't adapt more often than not and i'm a pretty good bastion i'll swap off if it's not working. Good Bastions, Hanzos, Widows, Genji, Phara can carry games just because teams don't swap heroes to respond really finding a group of 3 people+ really changes how the game gets played. | ||
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On April 10 2017 19:08 semantics wrote:really finding a group of 3 people+ really changes how the game gets played. By pure accident I got into a game with a 4 stack + 2 randoms (me being one of them), and had an absolute blast. Everyone was talking and the teamwork was excellent. Needless to say we also completely floored our opponents. We all decided to stay as a team and proceeded to do 5-6 more games together. Winning or losing, those were the best games I have ever played in this game. It felt like how Overwatch is suppose to be. It's absolutely ridiculous how different(read: Shitty) of an experience soloqueue is compared to playing with a proper team. Just a shame that almost no one does it because the game actively punishes you for it. | ||
FeyFey
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Not the games fault that SoloQ is usually a sea of silence. We are being educated of being that way. So a game like Overwatch is good, where you can see where coordinated teamwork can lead too. | ||
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On April 10 2017 20:32 FeyFey wrote: Even in Solo que you can communicate, but you need one that starts the pep talking. Always happy to have someone on my team that gets me to talk. As I am part of the problem and am to afraid to start. Not the games fault that SoloQ is usually a sea of silence. We are being educated of being that way. So a game like Overwatch is good, where you can see where coordinated teamwork can lead too. The weird thing is that in csgo, which also requires teamwork, everyone talks. Even down to very low ranks. Sure they often talk in Russian because why communicate in a language that everyone understands? But they still talk. In Overwatch it's silence. People often don't even join the voice chat. It's fine if you don't want to talk, but why don't you at the very least want to listen to your team if someone else decides to talk? Mute them if they're annoying sure, but don't prematurely mute everyone because you want to play in isolation. That just screams that you have no intention of playing with your team in this extremely team dependent team game | ||
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FPS games are that fast paced and limited in their information, that communication is only possible over voice. So people are used to that and newcomers learn fast. Overwatch does a really good job at giving information and has some lone Wolf heroes. So you can make do with a language barrier in place. But people are blind and deaf (and trained to react to being yelled at), so talking allows to combine the ears and eyes of 6 people, so that at the end they don't blindly run past every opportunity and into every trap. So I think people will adapt slowly, but they will adapt towards more communication. One of my friends already turned on ingame sound in Overwatch. Which he usually never does. | ||
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On April 11 2017 22:29 FeyFey wrote: One of my friends already turned on ingame sound in Overwatch. Which he usually never does. I can't imagine playing it without ingame sound O.o McCree's ulti might even be good if you couldn't hear his clunking boots and loud scream across the entire map. | ||
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So over time I found out that around 30 people of my guild didn't have ingame sounds on. Which was like 3/5th. Even the ones I considered good players and tryhards, which surprised me. But I realized thats the reason why they lacked so much in teamplay. So I guess you can get used to it and still carry a bit, but I just can't and can't understand why you would do that. MMOs have crazy people though. Complains he wants to play at the top, spends 300 euro a month on gear. Plays without Audio and doesn't use the high level consumables. (Person has the money though and is lucky on the random cash shop part, so he actually makes money) Or wants teamplay finally ! Meanwhile buys new gear for another class every two weeks and sells his old stuff. Even if the classes aren't needed. My Overwatch story of the blind and deaf is still the good old Reaper. My whole team stares at him while there is nothing to do, as Reaper comes around the corner looks at us, teleports and announces from over our head 'Death comes' . He waited up there for his team for like 5 seconds. Meanwhile me on Mercy ... my team saw and heard that right ? ... moves into safety .... right ? Welp I stole that Reaper PotG >.> . Also Blizzard I get it you changed hook recently, so weird bugs can sneak in on a Patch like this where you add mechanics to a hero. But how could those affect Meis slow ? D: | ||
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Me: "Can we get a healer?" Guy A: "Go healer yourself if you want one" Me: "But then we don't have a tank?" Guy A: "Chill out man" Me: "What makes you think I'm not chill?" Guy A: "Stop crying and play the game" Guy B: "You still talking? Stfu noob!" Guy C: "What a fucking loser whiner" Guy D: "Reported" | ||
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And people that enjoy competition always wanted a real matchmaking like Overwatch has. Have to admit I enjoy it more then the usual Blizzard feel good matchmaking. | ||
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On May 28 2017 23:47 FeyFey wrote:And people that enjoy competition always wanted a real matchmaking like Overwatch has. Have to admit I enjoy it more then the usual Blizzard feel good matchmaking. Wow now calm down just a minute here. Overwatch has the worst matchmaking system in any competitive game I have ever encountered. This is, after all, the very same game where you can get to top 500 with a 44% winratio. This system doesn't promote teamwork, because you'll win more or less SR depending on how well you did with your hero compared to how others around your lvl did with the same hero. It's a system that promotes selfish play rather than teamwork. And don't get me started on pug vs premade or the rather ridiculous swing in SR you can get because the game actively increases your SR rate if you win or lose many in a row. There is no "level" in this game. A 3000 sr player can be just as good as 3500 or 2500. Unless you're a pro player who can single handedly carry a game with an amazing Genji or Tracer, where you end up in SR is largely random. For how a proper matchmaking system should be, look no further than to cs:go. It's not super complicated: You win or lose mmr depending on how many rounds you won and your opponents mmr. Anything beyond that is just fluff that makes the system more needlessly complicated and usually worse. | ||
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Even when the enemy has equally crappy comps. Even when we have a legit comp with healers and tanks. Even when we have defender's advantage in 2 CP maps. | ||
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On May 29 2017 12:01 29 fps wrote: Why does it take one hour to win one quick play game? I know it's quick play, but how shitty is my luck to always get teammates who play dps heroes yet can't kill anything, even when the opponent has no healers? Hanzos and widowmakers who can't aim. It's practice, yes, but losing 9 of 10 games is baffling. Even when the enemy has equally crappy comps. Even when we have a legit comp with healers and tanks. Even when we have defender's advantage in 2 CP maps. Streaks like yours just happen. Especially in QP. I've also experienced sick win streaks in QP, so in the long run it all evens out. In the last days, my QP teams had better compositions than my ranked teames, for whatever reason. @thread: Why do I kill like a maniac with McCree but can't even hit Roadhog properly with S76? | ||
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