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WCG Seattle, Taiwan and China

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 Fishball   Canada. October 09 2007 19:13. Posts 4702
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I just read some news regarding this WCG in Seattle. Just wow

Long story short

When the Taiwanese 3rd place winner in Project Gotham Racing, YOU-CHEN LIU went up stage to get his prize, he showed a Taiwan flag, just like most other players would do, showing the flag representing their region.
But when he was done and started to head back for the hotel, around 10 players/media from China surrounded him, and started to insult YOU-CHEN LIU, saying he was a "son of a bitch", "wtf was that flag on stage" etc, and tried to force him to hand over the flag.
The part I was stunned was, the two main guys leading the group was PJ from starcraft, and Xiao.T from warcraft3.

Some pushing, shoving seemed to have happened as well. The police
arrived later and PJ denied that any violence occurred.

At the end, the team Taiwan decided not to join the ending ceremony party in the evening to avoid team China.

I am Canadian-Chinese myself, and I don't want to bring in any political crap into this thread, but what the hell man, where is the respect for another player?

I still can't believe PJ did that

(Googled English source) http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=304106

Chinese version that I read:
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  Rekrul   Korea (South). October 09 2007 19:17. Posts 16547Profile Blog # 
Proof?

O man I just can't see PJ punking some kid. LMAO
why so 진지해?
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 I_are_n00b   October 09 2007 19:20. Posts 196
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To be completely fair, the official WCG representation of "Chinese Taipei" is a different flag. I can see how some peopel can be disagreeable with what he did, but causing problems back at the hotel, that's overboard.
lookatmyname
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 grobo   Sweden. October 09 2007 19:20. Posts 6014
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I can't imagine PJ assaulting someone like that... at all..

Either way, That's some really shitty behaviour.
We make signature, then defense it.
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 Fishball   Canada. October 09 2007 19:20. Posts 4702
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I read a chinese news article on the web, doesn't really mention the source
However I did manage to google an short english version to prove that the incident actually happened

I edited the first post
Last edit: 2007-10-09 19:22:37
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 SpringWind   China. October 09 2007 19:25. Posts 225
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stupid taiwan media

Pj just said to let him put that flag down,never said "son of a bitch" or whatever
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 EpiK   Korea (South). October 09 2007 19:26. Posts 4714
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that is so fucked up on so many levels..

On October 09 2007 19:25 SpringWind wrote:
stupid taiwan media

Pj just said to let him put that flag down,never said "son of a bitch" or whatever

so? The Taiwanese guy should have the right to represent his country.
Last edit: 2007-10-09 19:27:49
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 Fishball   Canada. October 09 2007 19:27. Posts 4702
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On October 09 2007 19:25 SpringWind wrote:
stupid taiwan media

Pj just said to let him put that flag down,never said "son of a bitch" or whatever


Well if the police and security guards were involved, there has to be more than that, especially when the flag is ALREADY down.
Don't forget he was leaving the center.
Last edit: 2007-10-09 19:29:10
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  GTR   October 09 2007 19:29. Posts 39085Profile Blog # 
What the fuck? This is disgraceful for the Chinese, especially for PJ and xiaOt (isn't he like 17)? As much as these players are excellent skill-wise, their reuputation is going to be extremely tarnished from this incident.
Twitter: @TL_GTR | Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/notyuna
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 SpringWind   China. October 09 2007 19:32. Posts 225
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On October 09 2007 19:26 EpiK wrote:
that is so fucked up on so many levels..

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so? The Taiwanese guy should have the right to represent his country.


Taiwan is a province of China
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 chobopeon   United States. October 09 2007 19:32. Posts 7284
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On October 09 2007 19:25 SpringWind wrote:
stupid taiwan media

Pj just said to let him put that flag down,never said "son of a bitch" or whatever


pj shouldn't have said it anyway.
:O
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 chobopeon   United States. October 09 2007 19:33. Posts 7284
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Last edit: 2007-10-09 19:33:38
:O
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 OtHER-X   Bulgaria. October 09 2007 19:33. Posts 72
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news about angry gamers going into fights always make me lol
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 BlueRoyaL   United States. October 09 2007 19:42. Posts 2381
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i can see where this thread is gonna lead eventually.

nowhere. we should stop talking about this until we get some real credible source to cover this incident, not some biased news from china or taiwan's part
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
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 GenericTerranPlayer   Singapore. October 09 2007 19:55. Posts 667
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On October 09 2007 19:32 SpringWind wrote:
Taiwan is a province of China


there are a fair number of people who will disagree with you on that point...

nothing political, but your view is just one side of it
scv rush ftw
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 ambit!ous1   United States. October 09 2007 20:00. Posts 3660
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Damn Chinese think they own the whole world.
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
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 zulu_nation8   China. October 09 2007 20:05. Posts 18689
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In China, when CCTV news tells you, FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL FALUN GONG IS EVIL, and you see it on brochures sent to your house and your grandparents and parents all tell you the same shit because they saw it on the news, no matter how smart or educated you are, you are not gonna be like, hey maybe I'll hold off on judgement until I've done a good deal of research on this. So when everything you see and everyone you know tells you what the deal with Taiwan is because CCTV is obviously a respected and professional source on foreign policy and doesn't block wikipedia, (fuck whoever did that), sometimes people will do stuff that is slightly irrational like preventing someone from raising his own country's flag at a world cyber games event. There's actually some very complicated behavioral psychology stuff behind it. Pj is not an expert on chinese foreign affairs but he still felt strong enough about this matter to assume a hostile attitude towards a stranger. I hope he'll just enjoy his second place finish and be happy
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 Eatme   Switzerland. October 09 2007 20:36. Posts 3744
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On October 09 2007 19:32 SpringWind wrote:

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Taiwan is a province of China
About as much as China is a province of Taiwan. Taiwan also claims Tuva(an area in russia iirc) and some other areas they dont have control over. But it does not seem like anyone from Taiwan get pissed off when someone shows a Chinese flag. But I might have missed that part.

EDIT:Do Taiwan act similar in this area?
Last edit: 2007-10-09 20:39:07
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
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 atheist13   China. October 09 2007 22:04. Posts 7
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On October 09 2007 20:00 ambit!ous1 wrote:
Damn Chinese think they own the whole world.


Nope, "damn Chinese" just want their rebel island back.

What PJ did was petty and foolish, but Taiwan IS part of China. They speak the same language, they share the same history, yet the Taiwanese act like they are superior to their mainland cousins for reasons yet to be determined. I do not wish to offend any Taiwanese on the these boards, but I live in China, so while I may be a little biased. I think though one may agree with me in saying that this entire business is an embarrassment for all parties involved, both the Chinese and the Taiwanese.
wut
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 KissBlade   United States. October 09 2007 22:18. Posts 1864
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Taiwan is only recognized as a country by two other countries in the world. And no, the US is not one of them. I'm not sure what the political ramifications are 100% about the whole thing though.

PS. In terms of world diplomacy speaking, Taiwan is actually considered a province of China by pretty much the entire world. You kids need to study your political science.
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