thedeadhaji   December 08 2007 02:56. Posts 26538 | Profile Blog |
Starcraft TiVo: Week 12 by thedeadhaji TeamLiquid: Final Edits
I sense that I am becoming increasingly picky about which games deserve to be on this list. Survivor, OSC, and even OSL were all disappointing. The OSL games may have been exciting live, but as vods they simply cannot stand up to the scrutiny.
I watched Savior vs Bisu over 10 times, trying desperately to convince myself that they were somehow good games. Unfortunately, they weren't. If you want to read (ie be spoiled) about what happened and my take on it, you can read it here
So as usual, the best games of the week happened in Proleague (along with 60 boring as hell games as well). The center expansions on Bakemagoji were used for the first time in Tester vs Hero, Boxer and Free scrambled around in a messy but entertaining matchup, and we saw the best ZvZ game in a long time from Odin and Hyuk.
Oh, and the Estro vs Hanbit team game was hilarious.
Shinhan Proleague: Week 9 1v1
2007 - 12 - 01 eStro vs WeMade game 2 - Tester vs Hero on Baekmagoji
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2007 - 12 - 02 Ace vs Hanbit game 4 - Boxer vs Free on Monty Hall SE
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2007 - 12 - 03 Lecaf vs MBC game 1 - Hiya vs Bisu on Ungoro Crater
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2007 - 12 - 04 CJ vs KTF game 4 - Xellos vs 815 on Blue Storm
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2007 - 12 - 04 CJ vs KTF Ace Match - Much vs Haran on Katrina
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2007 - 12 - 04 Samsung vs SKT1 game 1 - Odin vs Hyuk on Python
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2007 - 12 - 04 Samsung vs SKT1 Ace Match - Stork vs iloveoov on Baekmagoji
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2v2
2007 - 12 - 01 eStro vs WeMade game 3 - Cool/Sangho vs Ho/Hoony on Hwangsanbul
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2007 - 12 - 03 OGN vs STX game 3 - Flower/Bifrost vs Calm/Soo on Hwangsanbul
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2007 - 12 - 05 eStro vs Hanbit game 3 - Cool/Sangho vs Max/Piano
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GOM TV MSL S4 Survivor Tournament
Group A
2007 - 11 - 29 GOM TV MSL S4 Survivor Group A game 3 - Anytime vs GoRush on Blue Storm
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Group B None
Group C
2007 - 12 - 01 GOM TV MSL S4 Survivor Group C game 5 - Firebathero vs Pusan on Python
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Ever OSL: Week 8 (ro8 Week 2)
2007 - 11 - 30 EVER OSL ro8 week 2 - Upmagic vs Hwasin game 3 on Katrina
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2007 - 11 - 30 EVER OSL ro8 week 2 - Bisu vs Savior game 2 on Katrina
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2007 - 11 - 30 EVER OSL ro8 week 2 - Bisu vs Savior game 3 on Fantasy II
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Ongamenet Star Challenge 2007 Season 2: Group F
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thedeadhaji   December 08 2007 03:00. Posts 26538 | Profile Blog |
If you wish to argue that Bisu vs Savior should be higher, please go watch the 500 odd games that have been played thus far this season, then make your case.
Even comparing them to the other games this week, it should be clear that they are simply inferior in entertainment value.
Impulsively responding with "What this is nonsense aoiehfal;skdjfowier" without the proper due diligence isn't going to make a very good case. Last edit: 2007-12-08 03:01:57 |
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KizZBG   UK mofo. December 08 2007 03:09. Posts 7037 | Profile Blog | |
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thedeadhaji   December 08 2007 03:13. Posts 26538 | Profile Blog |
I'm retarded TT
thanks kizzLast edit: 2007-12-08 03:14:49 |
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Pyrthas   United States. December 08 2007 03:17. Posts 872 | Profile | |
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thedeadhaji   December 08 2007 03:32. Posts 26538 | Profile Blog |
lol I forgot to watch Survivor Group C.
Added 1 game from it, FBH vs Pusan.
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PePe QuiCoSE   Argentina. December 08 2007 03:38. Posts 1203 | Profile Blog |
uhm... hero vs tester not working on TLPD?
and thanks tons for this, bored at work so going to start watching :D hope you'll never get bored of making these!Last edit: 2007-12-08 03:39:28 |
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Pyrthas   United States. December 08 2007 03:46. Posts 872 | Profile |
On December 08 2007 03:38 PePe QuiCoSE wrote: hero vs tester not working on TLPD? Yeah, something seems to be broken there. But BaeZZi has it up on youtube; it's embedded in my previous post. (Also added FBH vs. Pusan because haji is obviously an inattentive slacker that managed to miss some of the games last week.) |
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Titusmaster6   United States. December 08 2007 05:28. Posts 2151 | Profile Blog |
| Thanks again Haji, greatly appreciated. |
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semioldguy   United States. December 08 2007 05:49. Posts 4757 | Profile Blog |
Great job as usual.
I'd ask how you have time to watch every single game, but I am kind of wondering the same thing about myself. |
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yakii   Korea (South). December 08 2007 07:01. Posts 1448 | Profile |
Thank you thedeadhaji & Pyrthas TiVo is always a good guide for me. |
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Plexa   New Zealand. December 08 2007 07:19. Posts 16234 | Profile Blog |
| mmm i kinda feel pusan vs anytime (mbc vs lecaf s2 or s5) deserves to be there, top tier pvp at its best - atleast i think its better than the puasn fbh game |
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defenestrate   United States. December 08 2007 07:23. Posts 496 | Profile Blog |
On December 08 2007 03:00 thedeadhaji wrote: If you wish to argue that Bisu vs Savior should be higher, please go watch the 500 odd games that have been played thus far this season, then make your case.
Even comparing them to the other games this week, it should be clear that they are simply inferior in entertainment value.
Impulsively responding with "What this is nonsense aoiehfal;skdjfowier" without the proper due diligence isn't going to make a very good case.
haji, I can accept that you did not find the Bisu vs Savior games as exciting as some of the others that took place during that week. + Show Spoiler + What I can't understand is how you can rank the third game - a solid one-sided harass into macro-rape - higher than the intense, pitched battles of the second game. Maybe it's less impressive with a better understanding of game mechanics than mine, but it really seemed like Bisu was going down once his nat nexus was destroyed, and his comeback was very dramatic. |
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thedeadhaji   December 08 2007 07:23. Posts 26538 | Profile Blog |
>plexa
Yea I think I threw out a lot of games I could have given 3/5 to b/c I was getting so damn sick of standard decent/solid but unspectacular games and it's always a pain in the ass deciding what is borderline acceptable or not. Last edit: 2007-12-08 07:24:12 |
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ShaLLoW[baY]   Canada. December 08 2007 08:28. Posts 7844 | Profile Blog |
Baezzi: what are those red and blue bars showing before the game? ( @ 0:18 and @ 0:54) It seems that red one is for a win and blue is for a loss against a specific player. But why do they have different number of bars for each win and loss?
i'm not baezzi but oh well. those bars represent the current play-skill of the players that a particular player has won or lost against for example bisu would be like 4bars. when like KTF_yellow wud be like 1 or 2.
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thedeadhaji   December 08 2007 08:43. Posts 26538 | Profile Blog |
I havent the slightest idea Oo
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Dark_Luster   Korea (South). December 08 2007 08:47. Posts 357 | Profile Blog |
| wheres BySun vs daezang? was it not a good game? |
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yakii   Korea (South). December 08 2007 10:37. Posts 1448 | Profile |
| That bars are related with wp rank. I'll make a thread if there's no thread about it. |
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Pyrthas   United States. December 08 2007 11:01. Posts 872 | Profile |
On December 08 2007 08:47 Dark_Luster wrote: was it not a good game? Correct, it was not. |
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jkillashark   United States. December 08 2007 16:29. Posts 5170 | Profile |
| hajiiiiiiii I'm still on Week 7 T_T slow down!!! |
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